Author Topic: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros (Bob Chick Melting Down) (Read 40901 times)

ag2 · « **Reply #250 on:** July 21, 2009, 08:41:53 PM »

Also, I agree that in order to be successful in BB you have to break the law in terms of taking steroids as well as injure your health. I think that even Bob would have to agree with that statement, this is what makes BB a joke, the fact that you have to be a criminal in order to suceed at the sport. They should make drug testing mandatory in the IFBB if they actually care about their athletes. And Bob what do you say to the criticism that BB is in huge decline popularity wise and are you or any of the other pros doing anything to stop this decline?

bodybuildermdpitt · « **Reply #251 on:** July 21, 2009, 08:46:35 PM »

Quote from: ag2 on July 21, 2009, 08:25:59 PM

FYI, both Big Bobs and I are accountants and willingly offer our services for free to analyze your's and Chic's income, ofcourse we are boud by professional ethics to keep your information confidential so we will only issue a statement on who makes more and nothing else.

This bigger income contest is meaningless... cocaine dealers make more money than any of those two, but reguardless no one is going to respect a drug dealer. This is the core point. Bodybuilding has become a symbol of filth and illegal activities. Notice how Mr. Chick refuses to answer if he has ever taken steroids. It is irrelevant if he has made more money. One made it legally, and the other by taking illegal drugs. The fact is that nobody in society likes or respects steroid abusers, ie.. the boos that baseball players caught with steroids receive. Lifting weights is a healthy activity, and bodybuilding.. well is just gay...

TechnoViking · « **Reply #252 on:** July 21, 2009, 08:51:44 PM »

This thread is a riot...Why don't you two guys get together and have someone measure who has the bigger cock? How many pages away are we from one of you two suggesting this?

bigbobs · « **Reply #253 on:** July 21, 2009, 09:29:21 PM »

This is getting out of hand, I think a MODERATOR should step in

bigbobs · « **Reply #254 on:** July 21, 2009, 09:30:48 PM »

The fail-safe solution whenever a thread gets overly heated - take a Nasser break:

TechnoViking · « **Reply #255 on:** July 21, 2009, 11:11:05 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on July 21, 2009, 09:30:48 PM

The fail-safe solution whenever a thread gets overly heated - take a Nasser break:

ab-so-lute perfection right there

Atleast 3 olympias should be his...

bigbobs · « **Reply #256 on:** July 22, 2009, 12:23:04 AM »

Quote from: TechnoViking on July 21, 2009, 11:11:05 PM

ab-so-lute perfection right there Atleast 3 olympias should be his...

Great post TechnoViking! Personally I think he should have won 95, 96, 97 and 98 Olympia. Which do you think were his best showings?

polychronopolous · « **Reply #257 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:25:02 AM »

I find it hilarious that you are this huge advocate of evolution and yet you have evolved into a 60 something year old that is concerned about another man's finances who lives completely on the other side of the world from you.

If I turn out to be as concerned with such trivial matters when I am your age, remind me to shoot myself.

Vince B · « **Reply #258 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:40:35 AM »

I don't concern myself with what others have or earn. I do take exception to jerks like Bob who try to taint others who challenge them on discussion boards. He is a father and I am a grandfather. I have a son older than he is and I wonder how he would feel if others painted him as a pedophile? He is getting some of the shit he dishes out to others with little concern for anything decent at all. I am calling it like I see it. He isn't the only asshole on this forum, either. They pop up with regular monotony. About what you would expect from people who are bitter and have done hardly anything in their lives.

Rome · « **Reply #259 on:** July 22, 2009, 04:29:50 AM »

Quote from: Immortal_Technique on July 15, 2009, 06:24:25 AM

Fighters are better at fighting. Bodybuilders are better at bodybuilding.

Hope this helps.

Obvious but I guess this fact needs to be pointed out to the "I HATE BODYBUILDING AND BODYBUILDERS BUT I'M ON A BODYBUILDING WEBSITE" group.
AN MMA fighter would crush, a football player, an NBA player, a MLB player, .....the list goes on.
The only group that might stand a chance are boxers.
So you see bodybuilders are part of a Very Large group that couldn't take an MMA fighter.
How would the top MMA fighter fair in a posedown against Victor Martinez? Apples and oranges.
And I don't think anyone is dumb enough to believe a BB is in the same cardiovascular shape as a fighter. No one would even try to make that argument.

Royalty · « **Reply #260 on:** July 22, 2009, 06:15:58 AM »

Just an opinion. Chick is an IFBB pro. He should be shown respect on a bodybuilding message board. This isn't a MMA board. Post MMA topics on the MMA board...or at a MMA site.

rocket · « **Reply #261 on:** July 22, 2009, 06:54:03 AM »

Unintentionally, I almost got in a fight at a sporting game (as in, I was a participant) recently. The people watching all got excited because the "larger than average" guy was about to get in a scuffle with someone smaller.

The irony being that afterwards, the larger than average guy realises "if this guy has thrown 6 punches of practice at a punching bag in his adult life, I'd have been fucked".

That's when the illusion/self delusion really hits home. Fortunately, the great reputation of bodybuilding was protected and I had no need to engage my savage "muscles for show". If I'd have had to have front double bicep'sed my way out of that situation I'd have had problems. Would he have traded posing oil for taking a dive? Who knows.

(Jokes aside, this did happen).

Pecs · « **Reply #262 on:** July 22, 2009, 08:21:50 AM »

wow! what a thread we got here.

I got a question for you guys.

Which one would you rather have.

a) Body of prime Arnie.

b) Skills AND Body of BJ penn

ps: you don't get to take part in any competition (bbing or MMA) and you are living in a relatively safe country I might add..

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #263 on:** July 22, 2009, 08:35:54 AM »

Quote from: Pecs on July 22, 2009, 08:21:50 AM

wow! what a thread we got here.

I got a question for you guys.

Which one would you rather have.

a) Body of prime Arnie.

b) Skills AND Body of BJ penn

ps: you don't get to take part in any competition (bbing or MMA) and you are living in a relatively safe country I might add..

A all day long.

I find it a little amusing that a well paid professional, with a family, pushing 40 is concerned about his fighting skills.

I haven't had a fight in almost fifteen years

Pecs · « **Reply #264 on:** July 22, 2009, 08:41:29 AM »

Quote from: Groink on July 22, 2009, 08:35:54 AM

A all day long.

I find it a little amusing that a well paid professional, with a family, pushing 40 is concerned about his fighting skills.

I haven't had a fight in almost fifteen years

yap! Same here! If you don't earn your $$ by fighting, then all your great takedowns, submissions and striking abilities will not matter that much.

FREAKgeek · « **Reply #265 on:** July 22, 2009, 08:43:31 AM »

Quote from: Pecs on July 22, 2009, 08:41:29 AM

yap! Same here! If you don't earn your $$ by fighting, then all your great takedowns, submissions and striking abilities will not matter that much.

And how more does it matter to be a dehydrated, juiced to the gills slab of beef?

Pecs · « **Reply #266 on:** July 22, 2009, 08:57:41 AM »

Quote from: FREAKgeek on July 22, 2009, 08:43:31 AM

And how more does it matter to be a dehydrated, juiced to the gills slab of beef?

I'm just saying between those 2 choices (in my earlier post), i will take arnie's body anytime.
I don't think we need to talk about the advantages of having arnie's body compared to BJ Penn's since we all post in GETBIG.

A strong physical presence is always an advantage (is arnie too big??? how about prime shawn ray? or paris??).
Fighting skills...well...its cool to have it..

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #267 on:** July 22, 2009, 09:14:38 AM »

Quote from: Pecs on July 22, 2009, 08:21:50 AM

wow! what a thread we got here.

I got a question for you guys.

Which one would you rather have.

a) Body of prime Arnie.

b) Skills AND Body of BJ penn

ps: you don't get to take part in any competition (bbing or MMA) and you are living in a relatively safe country I might add..

Which one is stronger?

rccs · « **Reply #268 on:** July 22, 2009, 12:03:17 PM »

Arnold was waaaay stronger... Arnold could shoulder press Blow Job Penn

americanbulldog · « **Reply #269 on:** July 22, 2009, 12:46:01 PM »

Quote from: Pecs on July 22, 2009, 08:21:50 AM

wow! what a thread we got here.

I got a question for you guys.

Which one would you rather have.

a) Body of prime Arnie.

b) Skills AND Body of BJ penn

ps: you don't get to take part in any competition (bbing or MMA) and you are living in a relatively safe country I might add..

Can't believe this thread is still alive. Better comparison is body of Arnie and skills and body of Frank Mir. One, strictly for show, one for combat sports. BJ is lightweight, at least compare Arnie to a heavyweight. Bodybuilders bodybuild, fighters fight. Even though I train primarilly BJJ with some kickboxing mixed in, I still like to be lean, so appearance is always going to be important. Appearance over performance, no way. Kind of like 26" rims on a sports car. Makes no sense.

I can see Mindspin's analogys, a lot of folks have opined, previously, that someone like Ronnie, Nasser, et al, would wreck shop if they got into an MMA fight, and here is where Mindspin is clearly correct. But to argue about MMA on a bodybuilding site.....

And to clarify, Chick, I was a natural bodybuilder who couldn't compete with those with performance enhancing drugs.

Topskin69 · « **Reply #270 on:** July 22, 2009, 12:48:09 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on July 21, 2009, 09:30:48 PM

The fail-safe solution whenever a thread gets overly heated - take a Nasser break:

There is enough oil in that right bicep to lubricate the engine in my car.

polychronopolous · « **Reply #271 on:** July 22, 2009, 12:54:41 PM »

Body and fighting skill of BJ Penn vs. Body of Arnold = give me Arnold.

Body and fighting skill of Frank Mir vs. Body of Arnold = give me Mir.

Chick · « **Reply #272 on:** July 22, 2009, 12:58:55 PM »

Quote from: americanbulldog on July 22, 2009, 12:46:01 PM

Can't believe this thread is still alive. Better comparison is body of Arnie and skills and body of Frank Mir. One, strictly for show, one for combat sports. BJ is lightweight, at least compare Arnie to a heavyweight. Bodybuilders bodybuild, fighters fight. Even though I train primarilly BJJ with some kickboxing mixed in, I still like to be lean, so appearance is always going to be important. Appearance over performance, no way. Kind of like 26" rims on a sports car. Makes no sense.

I can see Mindspin's analogys, a lot of folks have opined, previously, that someone like Ronnie, Nasser, et al, would wreck shop if they got into an MMA fight, and here is where Mindspin is clearly correct. But to argue about MMA on a bodybuilding site.....

And to clarify, Chick, I was a natural bodybuilder who couldn't compete with those with performance enhancing drugs.

To further clarify, Mindspin was a juiced up bodybuilder who couldn't compete with those with performance enhancing drugs.

Pecs · « **Reply #273 on:** July 22, 2009, 01:22:18 PM »

Quote from: polychronopolous on July 22, 2009, 12:54:41 PM

Body and fighting skill of BJ Penn vs. Body of Arnold = give me Arnold.

Body and fighting skill of Frank Mir vs. Body of Arnold = give me Mir.

how about Body and fighting skills of Fedor vs Body of prime Arnie

Both top dogs in their sport..

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #274 on:** July 22, 2009, 01:34:40 PM »

Let's just say I'd rather spend my time in the gym honing my body rather than my grappling skills.

And guess what...that's what I do

And I don't care that an MMA dude could "submit' me.

the chances of my being in that predicament are about nil and zero.

Rather look like this than be a "badass"