Author Topic: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros (Bob Chick Melting Down) (Read 40965 times)

polychronopolous · « **Reply #275 on:** July 22, 2009, 01:35:36 PM »

Quote from: Pecs on July 22, 2009, 01:22:18 PM

how about Body and fighting skills of Fedor vs Body of prime Arnie

Both top dogs in their sport..

Damn, that's actually a pretty tough question....Fedor is such a bad ass but his physique is kinda dumpy while Mir looks pretty decent...you would still turn some heads with Mir's physique while with Fedor; he is just a big lookin dude with no definition.

I guess in that question I would have to go with Arnold over Fedor.

Quote from: Groink on July 22, 2009, 01:34:40 PM

Let's just say I'd rather spend my time in the gym honing my body rather than my grappling skills.

And guess what...that's what I do And I don't care that an MMA dude could "submit' me.

the chances of my being in that predicament are about nil and zero.

Rather look like this than be a "badass"

Exactly.

TechnoViking · « **Reply #276 on:** July 22, 2009, 03:08:28 PM »

I have a question

If MMA fighters/Boxers etc. don't care about muscle, why do a lot of them do a double bicep shot at the weigh ins?

bigbobs · « **Reply #277 on:** July 22, 2009, 03:48:39 PM »

Quote from: Pecs on July 22, 2009, 01:22:18 PM

how about Body and fighting skills of Fedor vs Body of prime Arnie

Both top dogs in their sport..

I would pick fighting skill of Arnie with body of Fedor

bigbobs · « **Reply #278 on:** July 22, 2009, 03:51:23 PM »

Quote from: americanbulldog on July 22, 2009, 12:46:01 PM

Appearance over performance, no way. Kind of like 26" rims on a sports car. Makes no sense.

But why do you think that "performance" of large muscles is measured by fighting ability?

Makes no sense.

Royalty · « **Reply #279 on:** July 22, 2009, 03:56:30 PM »

Quote from: TechnoViking on July 22, 2009, 03:08:28 PM

I have a question

If MMA fighters/Boxers etc. don't care about muscle, why do a lot of them do a double bicep shot at the weigh ins?

And shave their bodies and tan

kiwiol · « **Reply #280 on:** July 22, 2009, 08:49:37 PM »

Quote from: ManBearPig... on July 21, 2009, 08:23:39 AM

one of the definitions of a "sport" is acting and reacting to the situation around you.

you can even make the argument for "sports" such as golf and bowling. if your ball's in a sand trap you'd hit it differently than off a tee. if you have a 7-10 split you'd bowl differently than if you had a full rack.

there's absolutely no "action and reaction" in bodybuilding.

Sorry bro, but you're wrong here. What do you have to say about situations like in the posedown where if HUGE Nasser hits a most muscular, Ronnie counteracts it by hitching up his thong even further up his crack before flexing his striated glutes?

Or in a candid moment of a gym photoshoot where Joel Stubbs shows off his back, only to have Milos drop his pants, turn around and bend over to show off his ham-glute tie ins?

I could go on, but I'm sure you get the point.

Vince B · « **Reply #281 on:** July 22, 2009, 09:41:46 PM »

The flotsam are easily impressed. What most are unaware of is big muscleheads are often recruited as bouncers and doormen. Most that I have seen have taken martial arts courses to prepare them for work like that. Having a large physique is a huge deterrent to anyone thinking of bullying them. Period. Who says having big muscles is useless? If people come into contact in crowded places those muscles come in real handy. I think the public are wise to steer clear of muscleheads. No one knows what they are capable of if stirred up. Common sense suggests that who plays around with the bull often gets the horn. No, not the poofters. I have never been in a fight as an adult. My grip strength alone could tear out ribs from would be assailants and easily break any ordinary Joe's arm. I fear no man but that doesn't mean I would pick a fight with anyone else. It is best to keep things in perspective and have a good sense of humour. If not, then be quick on your feet.

MindSpin · « **Reply #282 on:** July 22, 2009, 11:21:38 PM »

Quote from: rocket on July 22, 2009, 06:54:03 AM

Unintentionally, I almost got in a fight at a sporting game (as in, I was a participant) recently. The people watching all got excited because the "larger than average" guy was about to get in a scuffle with someone smaller.

The irony being that afterwards, the larger than average guy realises "if this guy has thrown 6 punches of practice at a punching bag in his adult life, I'd have been fucked".

That's when the illusion/self delusion really hits home. Fortunately, the great reputation of bodybuilding was protected and I had no need to engage my savage "muscles for show". If I'd have had to have front double bicep'sed my way out of that situation I'd have had problems. Would he have traded posing oil for taking a dive? Who knows.

(Jokes aside, this did happen).

Well said!

MindSpin · « **Reply #283 on:** July 22, 2009, 11:27:48 PM »

Quote from: Chick on July 22, 2009, 12:58:55 PM

To further clarify, Mindspin was a juiced up bodybuilder who couldn't compete with those with performance enhancing drugs.

No accurate. I won my the light heavy weight and overall at the 94 NCP Mr. Huntington Beach. I then placed 5th at 1996 NPC LA. It was only my fourth show and my second on gear. My sponsor was excited and everyone encouraged me to do the CA the next year. I wanted no part of it. The thought of spending my life poking needles into myself in exchange for plastic trophies did not seem appealing. Instead, I went to college, got married, started a career and the rest is history.

MindSpin · « **Reply #284 on:** July 22, 2009, 11:43:06 PM »

For anyone who thinks a "hate" bobydbuilding, I'd like to clarify. I don't! I love bodybuilding. In fact, I still train 4 days/week. Still hit a shot in bathroom mirror every morning. Still eat like a bodybuilder. But I don't have the meathead mentality that most bodybuilders have. I'm not obsessed with trying to be 250lbs. I'm not breaking the law to use gear. I'm not yelling or stomping around the gym. I don't walk around with extra tight shirts and goofy shoes.

I strive to develop myself from every angle: physically, mentally, spiritually & emotionally. As it relates to physical development, I strive to continually improve my flexibility, endurance and strength. The net result of that, is that while I may not look like a competitive bodybuilder, I do look bigger than the average person, and I am much more athletic. Bodybuilding is but one component of everything I do in my endless pursuit of personal development.

Here's a pic of me in my hotel room....BOOOOM!

saucetradomous · « **Reply #285 on:** July 23, 2009, 12:09:02 AM »

Quote from: MindSpin on July 22, 2009, 11:43:06 PM

For anyone who thinks a "hate" bobydbuilding, I'd like to clarify. I don't! I love bodybuilding. In fact, I still train 4 days/week. Still hit a shot in bathroom mirror every morning. Still eat like a bodybuilder. But I don't have the meathead mentality that most bodybuilders have. I'm not obsessed with trying to be 250lbs. I'm not breaking the law to use gear. I'm not yelling or stomping around the gym. I don't walk around with extra tight shirts and goofy shoes.

I strive to develop myself from every angle: physically, mentally, spiritually & emotionally. As it relates to physical development, I strive to continually improve my flexibility, endurance and strength. The net result of that, is that while I may not look like a competitive bodybuilder, I do look bigger than the average person, and I am much more athletic. Bodybuilding is but one component of everything I do in my endless pursuit of personal development.

Here's a pic of me in my hotel room....BOOOOM!

Brutal oversaturated pic... looking lean yemini

rocket · « **Reply #286 on:** July 23, 2009, 12:31:17 AM »

Mindspin had a good early juicer physique and would have done ok. His private posing sessions would have been legendary, the gear he would have sold would have been titanic.

Later on, he'd have been the absolute pinnacle of 40 year old tight black shirt clad nightclub dwellers.

I for one cannot believe he threw all that potential away.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #287 on:** July 23, 2009, 12:34:36 AM »

Quote from: bigbobs on July 22, 2009, 03:51:23 PM

But why do you think that "performance" of large muscles is measured by fighting ability? Makes no sense.

Read it in context. I was referring to my own personal training in BJJ, which I actively compete in. Large muscles can inhibit performance, so performance is the need, not physical appearance of large muscles.

gordiano · « **Reply #288 on:** July 23, 2009, 12:40:22 AM »

Quote from: MindSpin on July 22, 2009, 11:43:06 PM

For anyone who thinks a "hate" bobydbuilding, I'd like to clarify. I don't! I love bodybuilding. In fact, I still train 4 days/week. Still hit a shot in bathroom mirror every morning. Still eat like a bodybuilder. But I don't have the meathead mentality that most bodybuilders have. I'm not obsessed with trying to be 250lbs. I'm not breaking the law to use gear. I'm not yelling or stomping around the gym. I don't walk around with extra tight shirts and goofy shoes.

I strive to develop myself from every angle: physically, mentally, spiritually & emotionally. As it relates to physical development, I strive to continually improve my flexibility, endurance and strength. The net result of that, is that while I may not look like a competitive bodybuilder, I do look bigger than the average person, and I am much more athletic. Bodybuilding is but one component of everything I do in my endless pursuit of personal development.

Here's a pic of me in my hotel room....BOOOOM!

Well said. I couldn't agree more.

Vince B · « **Reply #289 on:** July 23, 2009, 01:32:01 AM »

Quote from: MindSpin on July 22, 2009, 11:43:06 PM

I strive to develop myself from every angle: physically, mentally, spiritually & emotionally.

People say this but what the heck is spiritual development? A platitude for sure.

What goofy shoes do some muscleheads wear?

Immortal_Technique · « **Reply #290 on:** July 23, 2009, 03:18:41 AM »

I'd rather look in good shape day to day, than look fat and have to look for fights to prove myself.

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #291 on:** July 23, 2009, 04:08:47 AM »

Quote from: Vince Basile on July 23, 2009, 01:32:01 AM

People say this but what the heck is spiritual development? A platitude for sure.

What goofy shoes do some muscleheads wear?

ethics? what goofy shoes

Vince B · « **Reply #292 on:** July 23, 2009, 04:47:46 AM »

Ethics in not spiritual development. I majored in philosophy and did courses in ethics. No spirit around those hallowed halls.

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #293 on:** July 23, 2009, 05:04:07 AM »

Quote from: Vince Basile on July 23, 2009, 04:47:46 AM

Ethics in not spiritual development. I majored in philosophy and did courses in ethics. No spirit around those hallowed halls.

thank God

Chick · « **Reply #294 on:** July 23, 2009, 05:09:59 AM »

Quote from: MindSpin on July 22, 2009, 11:27:48 PM

No accurate. I won my the light heavy weight and overall at the 94 NCP Mr. Huntington Beach. I then placed 5th at 1996 NPC LA. It was only my fourth show and my second on gear. My sponsor was excited and everyone encouraged me to do the CA the next year. I wanted no part of it. The thought of spending my life poking needles into myself in exchange for plastic trophies did not seem appealing. Instead, I went to college, got married, started a career and the rest is history.

You wanted no part of the LA because you took everything under the sun (juiced to the gills, as you said yourself) and could only barely crack the top 5 of a local show....THAT'S when you had you "epithany" and decided you didn't want to compete. Strange why you didn't have this "moment of clarity" BEFORE you stepped on stage.

I also went to college, started a career, got married, had a child, and earned a spot in BB history.....all while being a BB.

You have no business being a mod on this site, and need to recind your status

BTW...still waiting for your answer as to me being a drug dealer....I'm sure my lawyers (who also happen to be the same lawyers as BB.com lawyers) would like to know as well.....of course, your pockets are much deeper, I'm sure.

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #295 on:** July 23, 2009, 05:16:55 AM »

i like you both....so you both stay.

rocket · « **Reply #296 on:** July 23, 2009, 06:05:42 AM »

This thread has derailed into basically a dicksize war. So much so that we now find Bob using the L word to try to gain a foothold. At this point, it'd just be wiser to end the discussion.

Fury · « **Reply #297 on:** July 23, 2009, 06:10:26 AM »

Mindspin seems much more controlled, articulate and mature than the Mirage Marauder in this thread.

MindSpin · « **Reply #298 on:** July 23, 2009, 06:13:52 AM »

Quote from: Chick on July 23, 2009, 05:09:59 AM

You wanted no part of the LA because you took everything under the sun (juiced to the gills, as you said yourself) and could only barely crack the top 5 of a local show....THAT'S when you had you "epithany" and decided you didn't want to compete. Strange why you didn't have this "moment of clarity" BEFORE you stepped on stage.

I also went to college, started a career, got married, had a child, and earned a spot in BB history.....all while being a BB.

You have no business being a mod on this site, and need to recind your status

BTW...still waiting for your answer as to me being a drug dealer....I'm sure my lawyers (who also happen to be the same lawyers as BB.com lawyers) would like to know as well.....of course, your pockets are much deeper, I'm sure.

Wrong again. Six months before I did the LA, I got promoted in my job and made the decision right there and then to make that my last show...win or lose. I decided to put my full focus on my career instead of wasting time in competitive bodybuilding.

As for being a mod here, Ron told me you called crying. What a little biatch you are...lol. I'm doing more for this forum than you ever have/will. I'm introducing thought provoking ideas that generate good discussion. Just because you don't agree with them, doesn't mean that you should cry to Ron and beg him to have me demomded.

As for you being a drug dealer, BRING YOUR LAWYERS. You have no idea what I know...BRING IT!

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #299 on:** July 23, 2009, 06:17:29 AM »

why is it bullies are the biggest cry babies when things dont go their way? lol.
this seems to be a pattern.