Author Topic: Michael Moore and Capitalism (Read 10958 times)

headhuntersix · « **on:** July 14, 2009, 06:46:34 PM »

Whats his problem with Capitalism...it would appeare to be keeping him in cheeseburgers. I mean he must shitcan atleast a half dozen Big Macs a day. Whats more capitalistic then the Golden Arches?

240 is Back · « **Reply #1 on:** July 14, 2009, 08:05:23 PM »

I would look for a picture of a fat repub mouthpiece, but I wouldn't want to Rush to any conclusions.

Also when you attack the messenger, not the message, you make it sound like Moore is right about things so you can only attack him for being a fatass.

Kazan · « **Reply #2 on:** July 14, 2009, 08:11:44 PM »

Michael Moore is a propagandist

He is also a fat twat

Better

240 is Back · « **Reply #3 on:** July 14, 2009, 08:45:26 PM »

Quote from: Kazan on July 14, 2009, 08:11:44 PM

Michael Moore is a propagandist

He is also a fat twat

Better

Correct on all counts!

2ND COMING · « **Reply #4 on:** July 14, 2009, 09:03:38 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 14, 2009, 08:05:23 PM

I would look for a picture of a fat repub mouthpiece, but I wouldn't want to Rush to any conclusions.

IFBBwannaB · « **Reply #5 on:** July 14, 2009, 09:59:43 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 14, 2009, 08:05:23 PM

I would look for a picture of a fat repub mouthpiece, but I wouldn't want to Rush to any conclusions.

Also when you attack the messenger, not the message, you make it sound like Moore is right about things so you can only attack him for being a fatass.

So you're a communist now?

headhuntersix · « **Reply #6 on:** July 15, 2009, 04:06:40 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 14, 2009, 08:05:23 PM

I would look for a picture of a fat repub mouthpiece, but I wouldn't want to Rush to any conclusions.

Also when you attack the messenger, not the message, you make it sound like Moore is right about things so you can only attack him for being a fatass.

Um we're talking about Moore..but keep trying

Nordic Superman · « **Reply #7 on:** July 15, 2009, 05:28:40 AM »

His he totally against any form of capitalism? A naturally selective environment is a must, anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #8 on:** July 15, 2009, 05:38:56 AM »

Quote from: Nordic Superman on July 15, 2009, 05:28:40 AM

His he totally against any form of capitalism? A naturally selective environment is a must, anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong.

He isn`t. His movie is about Wall Street and their bailouts. As well as a look at the global financial crisis and the U.S. economy during the transition between the incoming Obama Administration and the outgoing Bush Administration.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #9 on:** July 15, 2009, 05:42:25 AM »

Did you know that Michael Moore has never gotten a fact wrong in any of his movies? Some have even tried to take him to court and EVERY SINGLE CASE has been dismissed.

Nordic Superman · « **Reply #10 on:** July 15, 2009, 05:44:07 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on July 15, 2009, 05:38:56 AM

He isn`t. His movie is about Wall Street and how they don`t deserve a bailout.

I'm the biggest proponent of natural selection in regards to applying it to economics and government and failure doesn't deserve a bailout. That said, looking at the bigger picture, if a bailout was required to stop the country from becoming defunct then it is the appropriate action.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #11 on:** July 15, 2009, 05:45:14 AM »

Quote from: Nordic Superman on July 15, 2009, 05:44:07 AM

I'm the biggest proponent of natural selection in regards to applying it to economics and government and failure doesn't deserve a bailout. That said, looking at the bigger picture, if a bailout was required to stop the country from becoming defunct then it is the appropriate action.

Just watch the trailer.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #12 on:** July 15, 2009, 05:49:55 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 14, 2009, 08:45:26 PM

Correct on all counts!

Wrong on all accounts. Please explain and show why he is a "propagandist" or where he has intentionally lied on a fact.

It is a wrong choice of words to label him a "propagandist" when in his work, he shows nothing but facts. The Right-Wing has created a mythology around him that is not true whatsoever.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #13 on:** July 15, 2009, 05:53:11 AM »

Quote from: Nordic Superman on July 15, 2009, 05:44:07 AM

I'm the biggest proponent of natural selection in regards to applying it to economics and government and failure doesn't deserve a bailout. That said, looking at the bigger picture, if a bailout was required to stop the country from becoming defunct then it is the appropriate action.

So you have no problem with corporatism at its most powerful?

The True Adonis · « **Reply #14 on:** July 15, 2009, 05:57:40 AM »

Michael Moore's opting to spoof romantic conventions in titling his upcoming documentary "Capitalism: A Love Story," which addresses the causes of the global economic meltdown.

"It will be the perfect date movie," Moore said in an announcement Wednesday. "It's got it all -- lust, passion, romance and 14,000 jobs being eliminated every day. It's a forbidden love, one that dare not speak its name. Heck, let's just say it: It's capitalism."

Moore and Overture Films had announced previously that the film would be released domestically on Oct. 2 -- a year and a day after the U.S. Senate voted to approve a $700 billion bailout of Wall Street. Paramount Vantage will handle international distribution.

The film is described as focusing on "the disastrous impact that corporate dominance and out-of-control profit motives have on the lives of Americans and citizens of the world."

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #15 on:** July 15, 2009, 06:00:03 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on July 15, 2009, 05:53:11 AM

So you have no problem with corporatism at its most powerful?

Socialism is a failure everywhere it is tried.

body88 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 15, 2009, 06:03:14 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on July 15, 2009, 05:42:25 AM

Did you know that Michael Moore has never gotten a fact wrong in any of his movies? Some have even tried to take him to court and EVERY SINGLE CASE has been dismissed.

Do you know that Michael Moore is a lying fraud? He may not have gotten facts wrong in his movies, but he lies all the time.

Examples of his lies and hypocritical nature:

Paraphrasing - Says guns are a product of unrealistic, insecure people. Surrounds himself with heavily armed bodyguards in fear of being attacked by extreme right wing gun nuts.

Says he can relate to the working class and that wealth has not changed him. Flies around in private jets and was documented to have rented a room in a cheap motel for the press, while really staying at the Ritz Carlton down the street

Says he grew up in Flynt Michigan and thats why he can relate to the poor working class. He really grew up in a town near Flynt, and had a father who worked for one of the big three automakers. His father had enough money to put three kids through college and retire comfortable before 60.

"I've never owned a shred of stock" Was shown to own several stocks including a pretty large stake in HALIBURTON.

Moore is a lier.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #17 on:** July 15, 2009, 06:03:35 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 15, 2009, 06:00:03 AM

Socialism is a failure everywhere it is tried.

Why are you bringing up socialism? Who said anything about it?

Do you support Corporatism at its strongest, blotting out small businesses with no regulation?

The True Adonis · « **Reply #18 on:** July 15, 2009, 06:05:31 AM »

Quote from: body88 on July 15, 2009, 06:03:14 AM

Do you know that Michael Moore is a lying fraud? He may not have gotten facts wrong in his movies, but he lies all the time.

Examples of his lies and hypocritical nature:

Paraphrasing - Says guns are a product of unrealistic, insecure people. Surrounds himself with heavily armed bodyguards in fear of being attacked by extreme right wing gun nuts.

Says he can relate to the working class and that wealth has not changed him. Flies around in private jets and was documented to have rented a room in a cheap motel for the press, while really staying in the Ritz Carlton down the street

Says he grew up in Flynt Michigan and thats why he can relate to the poor working class. He really grew up in a town near Flynt, and had a father who worked for one of the big three automakers. His father had enough money to put three kids through college and retire comfortable before 60.

"I've never owned a shred of stock" Was shown to own several stocks including a pretty large stake in HALIBURTON.

Moore is a lier.

Source please. You just made all of that up. Please provide the evidence.

By the way, Michael Moore is a member of the NRA and is a gun owner and supports gun-owners. Obviously you have never seen Bowling for Columbine and if you did, you didn`t come away with the correct meaning.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #19 on:** July 15, 2009, 06:05:41 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on July 15, 2009, 05:57:40 AM

Michael Moore's opting to spoof romantic conventions in titling his upcoming documentary "Capitalism: A Love Story," which addresses the causes of the global economic meltdown.

"It will be the perfect date movie," Moore said in an announcement Wednesday. "It's got it all -- lust, passion, romance and 14,000 jobs being eliminated every day. It's a forbidden love, one that dare not speak its name. Heck, let's just say it: It's capitalism."

Moore and Overture Films had announced previously that the film would be released domestically on Oct. 2 -- a year and a day after the U.S. Senate voted to approve a $700 billion bailout of Wall Street. Paramount Vantage will handle international distribution.

The film is described as focusing on "the disastrous impact that corporate dominance and out-of-control profit motives have on the lives of Americans and citizens of the world."

Fine TA,

Why dont you share your trust fund with all of us and sell your Lotus, give away the proceeds and buy a mountain bike?

The True Adonis · « **Reply #20 on:** July 15, 2009, 06:07:16 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 15, 2009, 06:05:41 AM

Fine TA,

Why dont you share your trust fund with all of us and sell your Lotus, give away the proceeds and buy a mountain bike?

Why?

I drive less than 3000 miles a year. My Lotus did get around 28 MPG.

body88 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 15, 2009, 06:11:01 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on July 15, 2009, 06:05:31 AM

Source please. You just made all of that up. Please provide the evidence.

By the way, Michael Moore is a member of the NRA and is a gun owner and supports gun-owners. Obviously you have never seen Bowling for Columbine and if you did, you didn`t come away with the correct meaning.

Do as I say, not as I do. - Andrew C McCarthy. Read the book before you call me a lier. It chronicles all Moore's lies since day one.

Nordic Superman · « **Reply #22 on:** July 15, 2009, 06:11:57 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on July 15, 2009, 05:53:11 AM

So you have no problem with corporatism at its most powerful?

An stupid question like this can only come from someone with a limited understanding of natural selection.

To answer your question; NO, selection pressures (a KEY mechanism in natural selection) must be put in place, i.e. moderation of markets. Corporatism "at its most powerful" isn't even true natural selection at least in the Darwinian sense.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #23 on:** July 15, 2009, 06:12:10 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on July 15, 2009, 06:07:16 AM

Why?

I drive less than 3000 miles a year. My Lotus did get around 28 MPG.

Everyone has a profit motive, that is life and reality that you refuse to deal with. There is nothing wrong with it.

Small business people seek profits the same way big businesses do.

The guy at the bar trying to get laid by a hot chick in the bar is seeking an obscene profit at the end of the night.

The woman at the casino playing penny slots is looking for a obscene profit from the slot machine.

The kid gaming his parents for a new bike is seeking an obscene profit.

DO YOU GET THE POINT YET?

The True Adonis · « **Reply #24 on:** July 15, 2009, 06:18:52 AM »

Quote from: Nordic Superman on July 15, 2009, 06:11:57 AM

An stupid question like this can only come from someone with a limited understanding of natural selection.

To answer your question; NO, selection pressures (a KEY mechanism in natural selection) must be put in place, i.e. moderation of markets. Corporatism "at its most powerful" isn't even true natural selection at least in the Darwinian sense.

Uh, I guess you kind of forgot how the south was built, who owned the farms and the slaves, how the railroads were built, who owned the railroads, how oil land was seized even through private armies with the cooperation of the US Government and by whom.

You need to have a sense of historicity which it appears that you do not. Furthermore, don`t ever again compare Darwinian evolution with capitalism.