Michael Moore and Capitalism

[The True Adonis]

I kind of agree with you on this one. Slaves were a means to an end. I believe that, although inefficient, the slaves got the job done, were readily available and could be had for cheap. After a while when demand and competition increased, technology would have completely eliminated the need for them. By 'inefficient' I mean that you have to cloth, house, feed and care for them. Although I would be willing to bet that this was, at most, a small % of the take from a solid harvest.

See: The Cotton Gin.

The Cotton Gin really didn`t affect the height of slavery since it was invented in 1793, well before slavery`s peak in the United States.

[The True Adonis]

can you post some of these links?

you think Moore was in the right for intentionally doctoring the paper and using it in his film?  what happened to your principles son?

Yes, bolding an existing headline is a travesty. 

Links to what?  That there never was a lawsuit or are you operating under the premise that there was a lawsuit?

Type in: Fair Use Michael Moore Pantagraph

[boonasty]

Links to what? 

links to back up this statement:

Some of the papers were reporting it as one million back in 2004. 

[boonasty]

Yes, bolding an existing headline is a travesty. 

A Friday, July 30 Associated Press story says that the "Bloomington, IL, Pantagraph" newspaper accuses Moore's latest movie, "Fahrenheit 9/11," of taking a Letter to the Editor from its December 5, 2001 edition, and then showing a doctored version of it in the documentary's pre-title sequence.

The film version changes the date to Dec. 19, 2001, alters the typesetting, and blows up the letter's title -- "Latest Florida recount shows Gore won election" -- so that it now looks like a straight news article reflecting the paper's official position.

Naturally, the "article" was shown when Moore's voice-over narration asserted Al Gore definitely received more Florida votes than Bush in the 2000 election.

Consequently, the Pantagraph demands an apology and explanation from Moore, and it's seeking damages of . . . $1. It's the principle that counts.

[The True Adonis]

links to back up this statement:

http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=41656

The Bloomington (Ill.) Pantagraph is apparently upset over film maker Michael Moore's use of their newspaper for the movie Farenheit 9/11. The newspaper is seeking compensatory damages of $1 million dollars against Moore and Lions Gate Entertainment.

[boonasty]

he changed the date, took a title of a letter to the editor, not a news headline of the paper, and doctored it to make it look like a news story.


and  "the "article" was shown when Moore's voice-over narration asserted Al Gore definitely received more Florida votes than Bush in the 2000 election".




you don't see this as shady behavior?

[The True Adonis]

he changed the date, took a title of a letter to the editor, not a news headline of the paper, and doctored it to make it look like a news story.


and  "the "article" was shown when Moore's voice-over narration asserted Al Gore definitely received more Florida votes than Bush in the 2000 election".




you don't see this as shady behavior?

I don`t see how it could be.  Have you actually watched the Scene?  It is somewhat lighthearted and that was the point.  I will post the scene.  The problem I notice is that Irony, Sarcasm and witticisms are lost on Republican minded folks.

[boonasty]

http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=41656

The Bloomington (Ill.) Pantagraph is apparently upset over film maker Michael Moore's use of their newspaper for the movie Farenheit 9/11. The newspaper is seeking compensatory damages of $1 million dollars against Moore and Lions Gate Entertainment.

link doesn't work

[boonasty]

I don`t see how it could be.  Have you actually watched the Scene?  It is somewhat lighthearted and that was the point.  I will post the scene.  The problem I notice is that Irony, Sarcasm and witticisms are lost on Republican minded folks.

yes i've watched the scene and don't remember it being lighthearted, sarcastic or witty and that being the point, as you say.

but i will watch it again when you post

[The True Adonis]

link doesn't work

It works for me.

Try again.

[The True Adonis]

yes i've watched the scene and don't remember it being lighthearted, sarcastic or witty and that being the point, as you say.

but i will watch it again when you post

Posted.

[The True Adonis]

I don`t see a problem at all.  The headline is the headline.  He didn`t make it up.

[boonasty]

Posted.

just watched it again.  no, i don't see it as lighthearted.  i still find it very shady.

I don`t see a problem at all.  The headline is the headline.  He didn`t make it up.

it was a title of a letter to the editor.  not a headline.  if it were a headline i would be more apt to agree with you.

titles to letters are generally written to describe the content of the letter; it describes the opinion of the letter-writer.

[GigantorX]

The Cotton Gin really didn`t affect the height of slavery since it was invented in 1793, well before slavery`s peak in the United States.

Huh, I didn't know it was invented that early. Any reason for it not making a larger impact? Scared of new tech? Not wanting slaves to stop being slaves? It was just easier to have slaves?

[muscleforlife]

Think about it, in this day and age.  New technology=expensive, vs old ways=cheap disposable labor.

That is how the Pyramids got built.  Not because Egyptians were capitalists, They believed in Divine right.
That is how the Plantations got their products brought to market.  That is how railroads got built, etc, etc
Because the owners were capitialists.

Michael Moore may not think he is a capitalist, his "brand" is a capitalist entity.

Sandra

[The True Adonis]

Think about it, in this day and age.  New technology=expensive, vs old ways=cheap disposable labor.

That is how the Pyramids got built.  Not because Egyptians were capitalists, They believed in Divine right.
That is how the Plantations got their products brought to market.  That is how railroads got built, etc, etc
Because the owners were capitialists.

Michael Moore may not think he is a capitalist, his "brand" is a capitalist entity.

Sandra

Moore is pro-capitalist.

[Soul Crusher]

Think about it, in this day and age.  New technology=expensive, vs old ways=cheap disposable labor.

That is how the Pyramids got built.  Not because Egyptians were capitalists, They believed in Divine right.
That is how the Plantations got their products brought to market.  That is how railroads got built, etc, etc
Because the owners were capitialists.

Michael Moore may not think he is a capitalist, his "brand" is a capitalist entity.

Sandra

"Think about it, in this day and age.  New technology=expensive, vs old ways=cheap disposable labor."

You have it backwards.  The cost of labor is VERY EXPENSIVE in the USA and that is what drives technology.  Its not just the salaries, its the payroll taxes, sick time, benes, time off, lawsuits, EEOC, workers comp., unemployment insurance, etc. 

Check this out. 

 

[Matt C]

Wrong on all accounts.  Please explain and show why he is a "propagandist" or where he has intentionally lied on a fact.

Bowling for Columbine.

He questions what the difference is between the USA and Canada in terms of gun crime when the crimes are ENTIRELY racial in nature.  If you were to take away the black demographic from the USA, they do NOT have more gun crime than Canada, thus nullifying his entire thesis.  Not to mention, Moore had the nerve to bash Charlton Heston for implying exactly that!  I guess the truth hurts sometimes.

Read this:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=273610.0

[Dos Equis]

Whats his problem with Capitalism...it would appeare to be keeping him in cheeseburgers. I mean he must shitcan atleast a half dozen Big Macs a day. Whats more capitalistic then the Golden Arches?

What a fat slob.  Remember when he said last year that he hoped a hurricane would disrupt the Republican National Convention?