Author Topic: Heart of Steel - the Dan Lurie Story (Read 60364 times)

funk51 · « **Reply #175 on:** July 29, 2009, 03:33:42 PM »

Quote from: timfogarty on July 27, 2009, 09:02:05 PM

testosterone esters were available and mentioned in Strength & Health (Grimek's mag) in 1938

(yeah I know, here we go again)

that's the date lurie stated in his book also.

funk51 · « **Reply #176 on:** July 29, 2009, 03:35:37 PM »

Quote from: Matterhorn on July 28, 2009, 11:44:40 AM

Vince was a grumpy, strange old motherf***er...but he was well ahead of his time!

i esply. like how he was said to disrespect arnold s when weider first sent him to vince's gym to train.

funk51 · « **Reply #177 on:** July 29, 2009, 03:38:15 PM »

Quote from: funk51 on July 29, 2009, 03:32:38 PM

methinks he is lying about useing 70's, judging by his pics.

and even if he could that would prove the adage that weight doesn't always equal muscle size {gains}

funk51 · « **Reply #178 on:** July 29, 2009, 03:43:03 PM »

what i really like about browsing old pics is the guys you are surprised by how good they were and little was said or written about them bob shealy circa 1952 just saw pics of him today.

funk51 · « **Reply #179 on:** July 29, 2009, 03:44:50 PM »

two more shealy pics gleemed off ironage.com.

funk51 · « **Reply #180 on:** July 29, 2009, 03:53:30 PM »

to your way of thinking what was the biggest travesty commited in a contest regarding placing. to me it was jerry daniels than bob gadja beating sergio oliva for aau mr a and than soon after sergio won mister olympia.

lax · « **Reply #181 on:** July 29, 2009, 06:25:54 PM »

Quote from: funk51 on July 29, 2009, 03:43:03 PM

what i really like about browsing old pics is the guys you are surprised by how good they were and little was said or written about them bob shealy circa 1952 just saw pics of him today.

damn
looked great

nothing on him at musclememory, either...Tim?

timfogarty · « **Reply #182 on:** July 29, 2009, 11:06:55 PM »

Quote from: lax on July 29, 2009, 06:25:54 PM

nothing on him at musclememory, either...Tim?

Bob Shealey

1952

Mr California - AAU, Winner
Junior Mr America - AAU, 2nd
Mr Los Angeles - AAU, 2nd
Mr Southern California - AAU, Winner

1956

Mr USA, 5th

1957

Mr USA, Most Muscular, 1st

no magazine covers, though

funk51 · « **Reply #183 on:** July 30, 2009, 11:13:08 AM »

another underrated early bber

funk51 · « **Reply #184 on:** July 30, 2009, 11:14:44 AM »

another harris pic off mm.com

funk51 · « **Reply #185 on:** July 30, 2009, 11:17:37 AM »

i wish i could find the list i made up of all the guys who won the most muscular award yet not the overall at the aau mr america contest. like lurie did three years running.

timfogarty · « **Reply #186 on:** July 30, 2009, 11:33:37 AM »

Quote from: funk51 on July 30, 2009, 11:17:37 AM

i wish i could find the list i made up of all the guys who won the most muscular award yet not the overall at the aau mr america contest. like lurie did three years running.

1940 Grimek, John
1941 Schusterich, Ludwig
1942 Lurie, Dan
1943 Lurie, Dan
1944 Lurie, Dan
1945 Ross, Clarence
1946 Loprinzi, Sam
1947 Pedersen, Eric
1948 Rodriguez, Elias
1949 Wells, Melvin
1950 Wells, Melvin
1951 Hilligenn, Roy
1953 Paine, George
1954 Paine, George
1955 Schaefer, Ray
1956 Harris, Art
1957 Lacy, Ron
1958 Sansone, Tom
1959 Harris, Art
1960 Lerille, Lloyd
1961 Labra, Hugo
1962 Poole, Harold
1963 Poole, Harold
1964 Seno, Bill
1965 Oliva, Sergio
1966 Oliva, Sergio
1967 Tinerino, Dennis
1968 Coe, Boyer
1969 Coe, Boyer
1970 Dickerson, Chris
1970 Lopez, Anibal
1971 Viator, Casey
1972 Grymkowski, Pete
1973 Morris, Jim
1975 Robinson, Robby
1976 Means, Joe
1977 Johns, Dave

funk51 · « **Reply #187 on:** July 30, 2009, 11:36:43 AM »

Quote from: timfogarty on July 30, 2009, 11:33:37 AM

1940 Grimek, John
1941 Schusterich, Ludwig
1942 Lurie, Dan
1943 Lurie, Dan
1944 Lurie, Dan
1945 Ross, Clarence
1946 Loprinzi, Sam
1947 Pedersen, Eric
1948 Rodriguez, Elias
1949 Wells, Melvin
1950 Wells, Melvin
1951 Hilligenn, Roy
1953 Paine, George
1954 Paine, George
1955 Schaefer, Ray
1956 Harris, Art
1957 Lacy, Ron
1958 Sansone, Tom
1959 Harris, Art
1960 Lerille, Lloyd
1961 Labra, Hugo
1962 Poole, Harold
1963 Poole, Harold
1964 Seno, Bill
1965 Oliva, Sergio
1966 Oliva, Sergio
1967 Tinerino, Dennis
1968 Coe, Boyer
1969 Coe, Boyer
1970 Dickerson, Chris
1970 Lopez, Anibal
1971 Viator, Casey
1972 Grymkowski, Pete
1973 Morris, Jim
1975 Robinson, Robby
1976 Means, Joe
1977 Johns, Dave

thanks tim , you have to admit that's a pretty impressive list of guys who didn't win overall yet won the most muscular. quite a few went on to eventually win the overall but a lot didn't.

timfogarty · « **Reply #188 on:** July 30, 2009, 11:45:49 AM »

Quote from: funk51 on July 30, 2009, 11:36:43 AM

thanks tim , you have to admit that's a pretty impressive list of guys who didn't win overall yet won the most muscular. quite a few went on to eventually win the overall but a lot didn't.

the Most Muscular award was based solely on muscularity, as how contests have been judged since the late 1970s. The overall winner was suppose to be the best representation of the American male. Judging criteria also included overall appearance, grooming, speaking ability, and achievements in other sports. The winner of the Mr America was almost always not the most muscular person on the stage.

hazbin · « **Reply #189 on:** July 30, 2009, 03:58:09 PM »

Quote from: funk51 on July 30, 2009, 11:14:44 AM

another harris pic off mm.com

i think i have that pic on a Muscle Builder cover. yellow background

Figo · « **Reply #190 on:** July 30, 2009, 04:12:12 PM »

Quote from: timfogarty on July 30, 2009, 11:45:49 AM

the Most Muscular award was based solely on muscularity, as how contests have been judged since the late 1970s. The overall winner was suppose to be the best representation of the American male. Judging criteria also included overall appearance, grooming, speaking ability, and achievements in other sports. The winner of the Mr America was almost always not the most muscular person on the stage.

All jokes aside, besides the weightlifting round, it was pretty much a bbing equivalent of a beauty pageant ? Was there an interview round?

timfogarty · « **Reply #191 on:** July 30, 2009, 06:40:19 PM »

Quote from: Figo on July 30, 2009, 04:12:12 PM

All jokes aside, besides the weightlifting round, it was pretty much a bbing equivalent of a beauty pageant ? Was there an interview round?

yes, part of the back-stage prejudging

funk51 · « **Reply #192 on:** August 01, 2009, 12:21:58 PM »

Quote from: timfogarty on July 30, 2009, 06:40:19 PM

yes, part of the back-stage prejudging

i guess a lot of it had to do with appearances around the country, it won't have been good business to have harold poole stuttering about the merits of york barbells.

funk51 · « **Reply #193 on:** August 01, 2009, 12:23:37 PM »

harold with bob gadja mr a 40 some odd years after there heydays.

funk51 · « **Reply #194 on:** August 01, 2009, 12:26:00 PM »

truly one of bodybuildings cathederals wag's gym.

funk51 · « **Reply #195 on:** August 01, 2009, 12:31:53 PM »

wag's vintage and hardcore gym.

lax · « **Reply #196 on:** August 01, 2009, 12:35:11 PM »

Quote from: funk51 on August 01, 2009, 12:23:37 PM

harold with bob gadja mr a 40 some odd years after there heydays.

Didn't gajda purport to have defeated Arnold in comp?

funk51 · « **Reply #197 on:** August 01, 2009, 12:44:57 PM »

Quote from: lax on August 01, 2009, 12:35:11 PM

Didn't gajda purport to have defeated Arnold in comp?

yeah he said it, but he must have borrowed the old weider adage say something enough times and people will believe it to be true. i don't think he ever beat him, only zane , yorton and sergio come to mind, i'll have to check musclememory.com to see if there were others.

lax · « **Reply #198 on:** August 01, 2009, 12:56:49 PM »

Quote from: funk51 on August 01, 2009, 12:44:57 PM

yeah he said it, but he must have borrowed the old weider adage say something enough times and people will believe it to be true. i don't think he ever beat him, only zane , yorton and sergio come to mind, i'll have to check musclememory.com to see if there were others.

yes
and whomever he lost to in his first three teen shows

timfogarty · « **Reply #199 on:** August 01, 2009, 06:02:00 PM »

Quote from: funk51 on August 01, 2009, 12:44:57 PM

yeah he said it, but he must have borrowed the old weider adage say something enough times and people will believe it to be true. i don't think he ever beat him, only zane , yorton and sergio come to mind, i'll have to check musclememory.com to see if there were others.

I don't see how Gajda could have made that claim, as his one and only international competition was in 1966, the FICH Universe, which was part of and limited to those who were also competing in the FICH World Weightlifting Championships. In 1966, Arnold had not yet conquered Europe.