I find it odd on a BBing board that so many men are confused about muscle and bodyfat.
If a woman trains, she gets more curves, the sweep of her hams and quads, curves on her arms, a huge round butt.
If she diets down and gets ripped and veins, it is temporary, and the majority of the photos are taken within two days of a comp to get that dehydrated, vascular look.
If a woman stays natural, off season FBBers/figure go back to looking like normal woman for the most part.