Author Topic: The Greatest Athlete Ever (Read 14759 times)

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #50 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:01:15 PM »

Quote from: tendonitis on July 20, 2009, 02:41:19 PM

you can't be serious with the soccer bullshit
open your slant eyes

Soccer (the real football

) is a sport like any other. Get used to it.

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #51 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:05:31 PM »

Surprisingly, all the candidates are from North America...

Chick · « **Reply #52 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:08:14 PM »

Quote from: The Showstoppa on July 20, 2009, 02:52:39 PM

Like I said, he was playing against LB's who were 20lbs lighter than he was, and we aren't even talking about the DB's....the caliber of competition he faced wasn't anywhere near what it is today. The athletes have evolved way too much. Just like in every sport. He has avg speed for a RB today, at best. Not the most elusive guy either as he just bulled over smaller, slower players. You honestly think he could do that today? Bob, nostalgia is a powerful thing and I'm sure you loved him growing up, but he would get pummeled if he played in todays NFL. Fact.

It was all relative...the caliber was what it was, and he played then. Fact.

I dont know what he could do today...thats not the point

He was voted the best player in HISTORY...that should tell you something. He was also supposed to be a even better Lacrosse player...

Personally, I think im Thorpe was the best athlete (all around) without question...but to dismiss Jim Brown as if he was just another average player shows you're narrow

drkaje · « **Reply #53 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:13:03 PM »

Probably Gretsky because of the dominance.

Jordan made everyone around him play better so it's hard to argue against him.

PANDAEMONIUM · « **Reply #54 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:21:06 PM »

Quote from: brent2741 on July 20, 2009, 03:00:49 PM

bingo. History's best athlete ever

Don't know if you're old enough to remember this, but they used to have this hilarious commercial "Bo you don't know didley" with Bo Jackson and Bo Didley.

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #55 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:21:26 PM »

Weightlifter Vasily Alexeev set over 70 world records.

Weightlifters Pyrros Dimas and Naim Suleymanoglu won 3 olympic golds. None other has ever done it in weightlifting.

They could easily be considered as some of the best...just saying 'cause you Americans are so focused on your own continent.

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #56 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:27:33 PM »

chick and the gratzghey fans got it wrong

wanna go with statistics ?

no problem

noone comes close to Jahangir Khan who won everything for 10 years straight ( never fucking lost ! )

this is squash BTW

he has a female counterpart in squash also who went undefeated for 15 years

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE GREATEST ATHLETE EVER AND YES THAT IS MJ23

regmac · « **Reply #57 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:27:56 PM »

Quote from: db2431 on July 20, 2009, 12:49:02 PM

Nobody else comes close.

e may be the best according to the world, but I never cared much for him. Being a Laker fan, I never looked at just one guy ...not even today. Kobe may be up there with MJ but on the Lakers he's just another guy.

drkaje · « **Reply #58 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:32:15 PM »

No disrespect for Kobe's skills but he'll never be the team player Jordan was.

The ground barely touches the ball when he's playing.

Brutal_1 · « **Reply #59 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:37:42 PM »

Quote from: PANDAEMONIUM on July 20, 2009, 02:04:23 PM

Bo Jackson

Actually, before the Jordan videos showed, I really thought this thread was going to be about bo

PANDAEMONIUM · « **Reply #60 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:38:35 PM »

Quote from: Brutal_1 on July 20, 2009, 03:37:42 PM

Actually, before the Jordan videos showed, I really thought this thread was going to be about bo

We're obviously in the minority, my friend.

Brutal_1 · « **Reply #61 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:39:27 PM »

Quote from: drkaje on July 20, 2009, 03:32:15 PM

No disrespect for Kobe's skills but he'll never be the team player Jordan was.

The ground barely touches the ball when he's playing.

Shouldn't that say more about Kobe's balling skills then

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #62 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:39:57 PM »

Quote from: Chick on July 20, 2009, 03:08:14 PM

It was all relative...the caliber was what it was, and he played then. Fact.

I dont know what he could do today...thats not the point

He was voted the best player in HISTORY...that should tell you something. He was also supposed to be a even better Lacrosse player...

Personally, I think im Thorpe was the best athlete (all around) without question...but to dismiss Jim Brown as if he was just another average player shows you're narrow

I guess we disagree on the criteria of the argument. Greatest athlete of all time, IMO, is different than the greatest player which they largely based on pure stats. Brown was incredible for his day, but I think he would be a 1,200 yd rusher with 10-12 TD's in todays game. Nothing to laugh at, but certainly not greatest. I didn't know he played lacrosse.
And none of us have mentioned Wilt Chamberlin who was a dominant basketball, track and volleyball player in college and one of the greatest NBA players of all time. It's fun to argue, but there is no "cut n dry"

Chick · « **Reply #63 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:40:37 PM »

Here's your winner, boys:

Frank Dux

From 1975 to 1980 Frank W. Dux fought 329 matches.
He retired undefeated as the World Heavy Weight
Full Contact Kumite Champion.

Mr. Dux still holds four world records:

Fastest Knockout - 3.2 seconds
Fastest Punch with a Knockout - .12 seconds
Fastest Kick with a Knockout - 72 mph
Most Consecutive Knockouts in a Single Tournament - 56

Chick · « **Reply #64 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:41:54 PM »

Quote from: The Showstoppa on July 20, 2009, 03:39:57 PM

I guess we disagree on the criteria of the argument. Greatest athlete of all time, IMO, is different than the greatest player which they largely based on pure stats. Brown was incredible for his day, but I think he would be a 1,200 yd rusher with 10-12 TD's in todays game. Nothing to laugh at, but certainly not greatest. I didn't know he played lacrosse.
And none of us have mentioned Wilt Chamberlin who was a dominant basketball, track and volleyball player in college and one of the greatest NBA players of all time. It's fun to argue, but there is no "cut n dry"

I pasted his Wiki page for you earlier.....it's a good read

Army of One · « **Reply #65 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:43:31 PM »

Quote from: Chick on July 20, 2009, 03:40:37 PM

Here's your winner, boys:

Frank Dux

From 1975 to 1980 Frank W. Dux fought 329 matches.
He retired undefeated as the World Heavy Weight
Full Contact Kumite Champion.

Mr. Dux still holds four world records:

Fastest Knockout - 3.2 seconds
Fastest Punch with a Knockout - .12 seconds
Fastest Kick with a Knockout - 72 mph
Most Consecutive Knockouts in a Single Tournament - 56

Dux has been exposed as a fraud.

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #66 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:45:00 PM »

Quote from: Chick on July 20, 2009, 03:40:37 PM

Here's your winner, boys:

Frank Dux

From 1975 to 1980 Frank W. Dux fought 329 matches.
He retired undefeated as the World Heavy Weight
Full Contact Kumite Champion.

Mr. Dux still holds four world records:

Fastest Knockout - 3.2 seconds
Fastest Punch with a Knockout - .12 seconds
Fastest Kick with a Knockout - 72 mph
Most Consecutive Knockouts in a Single Tournament - 56

oh brother

by the way : he's the guy BLOODSPORT actually portrays

drkaje · « **Reply #67 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:46:10 PM »

A buddy of mine played with The Great One and explained in exhausting detail why I was wrong about Michael Jordan being the greatest, LOL!

Can't remember everything he said (there was beer) but I was definitely wrong.

PANDAEMONIUM · « **Reply #68 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:47:31 PM »

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the great Mickey Mantle. He was a star basketball and football player who got a full scholarship to Univ of OK for football. He was a superb natural athlete and could have been a pro footballer, no doubt. Hell, he was one of the greatest baseball players in history, and the sad thing is, he drank himself silly and tore his body to shit. If it wasn't for the injuries and early retirement, who knows what he could have accomplished.

P.I.P. to the Mick

Chick · « **Reply #69 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:47:52 PM »

Jim Thorpe

. College Football Hall of Fame - 1951

. Charter Enshrinee in the Pro Football Hall of Fame - 1963

. All-America - 1911, 1912

. Olympic Decathlon and Pentathlon Champion - 1912

. AP Most Outstanding Athlete of the First Half of the 20th Century - 1950

. "America's Greatest Football Player of the half-century" - 1950

. ABC's Wide World of Sports Athlete of the Century - 2001

. Track and Field Hall of Fame

. In 1950, the nation's press selected Jim Thorpe as the most outstanding athlete of the first half of the 20th Century

. From 1996-2001, he was continuously awarded ABC's Wide World of Sports Athlete of the Century award

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #70 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:51:17 PM »

wake up chick

it very much depends on the quality of your opposition and the depth of the field

Brutal_1 · « **Reply #71 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:51:59 PM »

Quote from: PANDAEMONIUM on July 20, 2009, 03:38:35 PM

We're obviously in the minority, my friend.

Well, if not the best, definitely a contender

Army of One · « **Reply #72 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:56:44 PM »

Quote from: cheftim on July 20, 2009, 03:52:25 PM

The Greatest

Not even the greatest boxer, let alone athlete.

noworries · « **Reply #73 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:58:32 PM »

Jeez most of you guys are posting athletes that are great in their sport. But most of them outside their sport are barely average. Jim Thorpe was about as good as anyone in any sport he played in. Babe Didrickson was unreal too. Rafer Johnson was great. Bo Jackson was great in two sports. Deion Sanders was awesome too. I would choose someone who was exceptional in team sports like baseball, football, basketball but also excelled in individual sports like golf, tennis, bowling, sprinting, long distance running, swimming. Nothing like watching a great athlete in baseball look like a dork swinging a golf club or tennis racquet. Some people are ust more adapt to certain sports.

Chick · « **Reply #74 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:59:31 PM »

Quote from: sevastase on July 20, 2009, 03:51:17 PM

wake up chick

it very much depends on the quality of your opposition and the depth of the field

Yeah....maybe he just got lucky!

He competed against the best of that time.....period.