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Remember when Kai Green turned professional ,he said that he didn't have enough  money (to buy more drugs)to take it to the next level and he almost quit bodybuilding , look at him now ,top Mr Olympia contender.

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Remember when Kai Green turned professional ,he said that he didn't have enough  money (to buy more drugs)to take it to the next level and he almost quit bodybuilding , look at him now ,top Mr Olympia contender.

EXACT-FUCKING-LY

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Im serious...

Isn't "Method101" the 17year old who workouts in his "home gym"? ::) ::) ::)

what the hell would he know about bbing, and competitive to be specific. jeesus.....these kids believe whatever they read on the "boards".

sure there are USERS AND ABUSERS, LIKE IN EVERY "SPORT"

method101 is a confused child, and like most children; a victim of the herd mentality..............h e is not yet intelligent enough to form his own responsible views, so he panders to what he thinks those around him consider cool..............these things are often in conflict with one another, in turn making method101 look like  sad little hypocrite......and i do mean little

for example, almost daily he will post some form of an anti-steroid rant, letting us know how stupid he thinks steroid use is, and how anyone who considers using these drugs is a narcissistic asshole................b ut then he will spent the rest of his day copy-and-pasting information from steroid related websites, making youtube video montages praising his favorite professional bodybuilders, and making posts critiquing which muscled-up, oiled-up, thong-wearing, steroid abuser looked better on X occasion.

i suppose we cannot look down on this other method with too musch disdain, for we must once again remind ourselves that he is only 18....................al l though, it was only a few years ago that i, myself was 18..............and i dont remember being anywhere  near  that much of a bitter, know-it-all, butt-sore, little sheep.............. :) :)

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Bob, you seem to dismiss Craig's claims rather bruskly.  I wonder if you would do so to Craig's face?

I would...and I did...at the USA's a few years back with 20 people standing there...he opted out of taking it beyong a discussion

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I would...and I did...at the USA's a few years back with 20 people standing there...he opted out of taking it beyong a discussion

That's because Craig is (was) a jap-shotting little pussy.

When confronted with a formidable opponent who wasn't scared in the slightest by his "tough-guy" act, he tucks tail

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method101 is a confused child, and like most children; a victim of the herd mentality..............h e is not yet intelligent enough to form his own responsible views, so he panders to what he thinks those around him consider cool..............these things are often in conflict with one another, in turn making method101 look like  sad little hypocrite......and i do mean little

for example, almost daily he will post some form of an anti-steroid rant, letting us know how stupid he thinks steroid use is, and how anyone who considers using these drugs is a narcissistic asshole................b ut then he will spent the rest of his day copy-and-pasting information from steroid related websites, making youtube video montages praising his favorite professional bodybuilders, and making posts critiquing which muscled-up, oiled-up, thong-wearing, steroid abuser looked better on X occasion.

i suppose we cannot look down on this other method with too musch disdain, for we must once again remind ourselves that he is only 18....................al l though, it was only a few years ago that i, myself was 18..............and i dont remember being anywhere  near  that much of a bitter, know-it-all, butt-sore, little sheep.............. :) :)

Why so serious MethodGNA, we are not that much different, you even created your getbig account with an almost identical name to mine. Learn not to take everything so seriously, the way i am on this forum is not a good representation of my real life personality and what i think about on a regular basis, i have alot of other things in my life besides this forum/weightlifting believe it or not.


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Here is what I think:

at local level, bodybuilders use drugs to get the edge.

then, they see everyone use drugs so they don't get an edge at all !

so they take more drugs to compete at the state level, and they add HGH and Slin if they didn't already do it.

at state level, they realise everybody are still just as fucking good as them, so to get the edge they must use even more drugs, all the fucking time with no time off so they can be good at the national level

then at the national level, everybody use a shit ton of drugs. Everybody are kind of... the same "size".
so at this point you need luck. you need good proportions and structure, and you also need crazy conditionning so you use some guru that are very good with diuretics and carb loading.

THEN, when you get to the pros

Everyone is big
Everyone is ripped
Everyone had "good enough lines", since they got there in the first place

so what do you do ?

that's right, you take even more drugs, and you also start shooting all your lagging bodypart with synthol so you can look as perfect and big as possible.

at this point, everyone use pretty much the same thing IMO

I don't think Ronnie Coleman uses more than Dexter Jackson for example.
it's just a matter of how far their body can take it




This I think was spot on. But I believe there are pros who haven't used synthol at all, but esciline and all the other shit, you bet.

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At the state level... 1000mg-1500mg a week is norm.

 I know middleweights who aren't much heavier than 165lbs who use over a gram a week not to mention the anti-estrogens, insulin and growth just to NOT place and qualify at the local level.
Ridiculous. But also sad at the same time...

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Here is what I think:

at local level, bodybuilders use drugs to get the edge.

then, they see everyone use drugs so they don't get an edge at all !

so they take more drugs to compete at the state level, and they add HGH and Slin if they didn't already do it.

at state level, they realise everybody are still just as fucking good as them, so to get the edge they must use even more drugs, all the fucking time with no time off so they can be good at the national level

then at the national level, everybody use a shit ton of drugs. Everybody are kind of... the same "size".
so at this point you need luck. you need good proportions and structure, and you also need crazy conditionning so you use some guru that are very good with diuretics and carb loading.

THEN, when you get to the pros

Everyone is big
Everyone is ripped
Everyone had "good enough lines", since they got there in the first place

so what do you do ?

that's right, you take even more drugs, and you also start shooting all your lagging bodypart with synthol so you can look as perfect and big as possible.

at this point, everyone use pretty much the same thing IMO

I don't think Ronnie Coleman uses more than Dexter Jackson for example.
it's just a matter of how far their body can take it



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it's funny how getbiggers pick and choose what they want to believe

they believe titus when he claims so and so pro used 3 grams of test a week, but they don't believe him when he claims to be innocent of murder ::)

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What is the "regular" amount of test per week?

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What is the "regular" amount of test per week?
For who?

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For who?

Hmmm, yeah...I could instead ask what is usually the minimum amount people start using?

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What is the "regular" amount of test per week?
us naturals produce a whopping 49mg per week on average.

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us naturals produce a whopping 49mg per week on average.

That little? Damn.

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Hmmm, yeah...I could instead ask what is usually the minimum amount people start using?
Hmmm, I think if somebody respond well and already have a bit higher natural testosteron level then 150-200 mg of test a week is more than enough for a start...

I somebody wants to be even bigger and better and wants to compete at bodybuilding shows then 500-750 mg weekly is enough IMO...

But this is just testosterone...you'll need other stuffs as well...and then these doses should be enough....

At pro level I think 1000 mg weekly is more than enough but you should use more other things...

1500 mg or higher a week is could be reasonable...if somebody competes at Olympia level or wants to qualify to the Olympia...

Just my two cents.

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I would...and I did...at the USA's a few years back with 20 people standing there...he opted out of taking it beyong a discussion

Good for you.  Care to tell us exactly what the exchange was?  I understand if you don't.

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Hmmm, I think if somebody respond well and already have a bit higher natural testosteron level then 150-200 mg of test a week is more than enough for a start...

I somebody wants to be even bigger and better and wants to compete at bodybuilding shows then 500-750 mg weekly is enough IMO...

But this is just testosterone...you'll need other stuffs as well...and then these doses should be enough....

At pro level I think 1000 mg weekly is more than enough but you should use more other things...

1500 mg or higher a week is could be reasonable...if somebody competes at Olympia level or wants to qualify to the Olympia...

Just my two cents.

Thanks.  ;)

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Good for you.  Care to tell us exactly what the exchange was?  I understand if you don't.
would you get into an arguement with your boss? lol

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Good for you.  Care to tell us exactly what the exchange was?  I understand if you don't.

It was real simple....exchanges were made either right here on this site, or Musclemayhem (cant remember)....Craig basically said, he'd see me at the USA in Vegas...I said no problem.  I walked in to the lobby area, craig was standing about 40 ft. to the left in front of a booth....I walked right up to him and said Here I am Craig, just as I promised...what you want to do?  He started stammering around and suggested we go off to the side to talk. He apologized for his comments...end of story

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Guess if your hero Craig said it, it must be true

one felon bitching about another
pretty funny

Method101

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one felon bitching about another
pretty funny
chick has been in prison  ???

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hahahahahahahaha!!!  "Muscle Missions".....a "Christian Ministry"

As if our lord Jesus Christ is looking down upon us from the heavens with his infinite compassion and wisdom giving a fuck about professional bodybuilding.  ::) ::)

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one felon bitching about another
pretty funny

Who are you talking about?

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It was real simple....exchanges were made either right here on this site, or Musclemayhem (cant remember)....Craig basically said, he'd see me at the USA in Vegas...I said no problem.  I walked in to the lobby area, craig was standing about 40 ft. to the left in front of a booth....I walked right up to him and said Here I am Craig, just as I promised...what you want to do?  He started stammering around and suggested we go off to the side to talk. He apologized for his comments...end of story
Nice job Chick somebody needed to stand up to that bully.