Author Topic: MSNBC: Birthers "Lunatic Fringe" (Read 7689 times)

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #50 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:01:22 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 22, 2009, 01:52:56 PM

1) myabe it says 'muslim'.

2) there will be tens of thousands of rednecks in the appalacain and other areas who will take this as proof he's not a christian. It's true. that "he's an arab!" lady from the mccain rally would claim she has proof. it would be used to smear him in 2012.

Already, the guest on hardball said obama would have to prove he can run again in 2012, if his bill passes.

LETS DO THIS AGAIN:

Just answer me this - why would he spend millions of dollars on legal fees, write and executive order, and go through all this nonsense when all he has to do is whaty every other president did and release the real BC?

240 is Back · « **Reply #51 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:02:49 PM »

hardball's top story = birthers again.

The old nut who shot a guy at the holocaust museum = a birther.

polychronopolous · « **Reply #52 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:04:19 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 22, 2009, 02:02:49 PM

hardball's top story = birthers again.

The old nut who shot a guy at the holocaust museum = a birther.

Yeah I'm watching it right now.

Love Chris Matthews.

blacken700 · « **Reply #53 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:04:45 PM »

Why don't these birthers use common sense? In the 2+ years Obama was running for POTUS, Bush & Cheney had control of the CIA, FBI, and over a dozen other intelligence agencies. If he wasn't born in the US, they had plenty of time and resources to find out for their party. It's common sense! If there was any evidence he isn't a citizen, he wouldn't be president! Even the ultra-conservative website WorldNetDaily has confirmed the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate! These folks need to turn off right-wing radio!
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

240 is Back · « **Reply #54 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:06:23 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 22, 2009, 02:01:22 PM

LETS DO THIS AGAIN:

Just answer me this - why would he spend millions of dollars on legal fees, write and executive order, and go through all this nonsense when all he has to do is whaty every other president did and release the real BC?

maybe, because that 'muslim' clause would cost him a lot of votes.

polychronopolous · « **Reply #55 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:06:54 PM »

Quote from: blacken700 on July 22, 2009, 02:04:45 PM

Why don't these birthers use common sense? In the 2+ years Obama was running for POTUS, Bush & Cheney had control of the CIA, FBI, and over a dozen other intelligence agencies. If he wasn't born in the US, they had plenty of time and resources to find out for their party. It's common sense! If there was any evidence he isn't a citizen, he wouldn't be president! Even the ultra-conservative website WorldNetDaily has confirmed the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate! These folks need to turn off right-wing radio!
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

You've already asked that question.

I agree with you bro, but fcuk....give it a rest.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #56 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:07:13 PM »

Quote from: blacken700 on July 22, 2009, 02:04:45 PM

Why don't these birthers use common sense? In the 2+ years Obama was running for POTUS, Bush & Cheney had control of the CIA, FBI, and over a dozen other intelligence agencies. If he wasn't born in the US, they had plenty of time and resources to find out for their party. It's common sense! If there was any evidence he isn't a citizen, he wouldn't be president! Even the ultra-conservative website WorldNetDaily has confirmed the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate! These folks need to turn off right-wing radio!
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

A THIRD TIME:

LETS DO THIS AGAIN:

Just answer me this - why would he spend millions of dollars on legal fees, write and executive order, and go through all this nonsense when all he has to do is whaty every other president did and release the real BC?

blacken700 · « **Reply #57 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:12:53 PM »

BECAUSE PEOPLE ON HERE DON'T GET IT .I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE THAT MANY DUMMIES AROUND

polychronopolous · « **Reply #58 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:13:52 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 22, 2009, 02:02:49 PM

hardball's top story = birthers again.

The old nut who shot a guy at the holocaust museum = a birther.

I've been noticing Rudy Guliani's has been making the rounds here in the last few days, blasting Obama every chance he gets.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #59 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:15:01 PM »

Quote from: blacken700 on July 22, 2009, 02:12:53 PM

BECAUSE PEOPLE ON HERE DON'T GET IT .I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE THAT MANY DUMMIES AROUND

Dont get what? You cant answer my question. Why is he sending teams of lawyers all over the nation to defend these lawsuits at a cost of millions of dollars when all he has to do is release the the damn BC, like every other president has?

I dont know exactly what is on there, but is seems extrermely strange that all he has to do is make a phone call to make all thia go away.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #60 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:15:48 PM »

Quote from: polychronopolous on July 22, 2009, 02:13:52 PM

I've been noticing Rudy Guliani's has been making the rounds here in the last few days, blasting Obama every chance he gets.

Even at DU that are sick of Obama, just for different reasons.

blacken700 · « **Reply #61 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:19:04 PM »

BECAUSE THE NUTJOBS WOULD SAY ITS FAKE.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #62 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:21:59 PM »

Quote from: blacken700 on July 22, 2009, 02:19:04 PM

BECAUSE THE NUTJOBS WOULD SAY ITS FAKE.

Not true. He has to give permission to the State of HI to release the long form BC and its over.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #63 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:34:13 PM »

Quote from: GigantorX on July 22, 2009, 05:50:35 AM

You ranted and raved but never answered my question. $:-\$ $:-\$

I simply want to know why he can't/won't show his original Birth Cert. I pretty much agree with you on what you said, but I just find it odd that he can't or won't produce his actual original Birth Cert.

It looks like Obama is goading these Birther's on and on to make them look wingbat's and crazy people. If you take a look at the MSNBC segment, it seems to be working.

I'm going to take a wild guess at brilliant political strategy at this point. those opposed to Obama are looking like they're nuts.

I'm also wondering how many past presidents were forced to stand before the nation with their birth certificate held out for all to see.

The republican governor of Hawaii says Obama was born in Hawaii. You guys all look retarded ignoring that fact.

Yes, it's a brilliant political strategy. It's succeeded in making his opposition look pathetically desperate. and for what, the valid arguments were gaining traction. Let's bury it all under the desperate failed election ploy. BRILLIANT!!!

You all sure know how to pick your fights.... not....

blacken700 · « **Reply #64 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:38:35 PM »

The Birthers: Dobbs and Conservative Media Feeding "The Wacko Wing"

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #65 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:42:34 PM »

Quote from: Kazan on July 22, 2009, 11:32:22 AM

Islam is not like Christianity, if you are born to Muslim parents you are a Muslim.

If you were born muslim, would you be muslim if you didn't want to be?

They don't brand your face and implant a chip in your brain lol... This is America, not Saudi Arabia.

tonymctones · « **Reply #66 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:59:55 PM »

Like HH6 said I think we can all agree that he should simply release the BC and be done with it...even obama supporters should be behind that...

The True Adonis · « **Reply #67 on:** July 22, 2009, 03:00:02 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 22, 2009, 02:01:22 PM

LETS DO THIS AGAIN:

Just answer me this - why would he spend millions of dollars on legal fees, write and executive order, and go through all this nonsense when all he has to do is whaty every other president did and release the real BC?

Did you realize that both Bush and his father, Clinton, Reagan, Carter have never shown a birth certificate? Actually, you can extend it further back as you like. Do you think Abraham Lincoln even had a birth certificate? Or William Henry Harrison? Or Martin Van Buren?

Also, I know that you have no clue about history, especially about American History, so I will explain now why the provision of being born in America exists. It was put in by the founders to prevent Alexander Hamilton from being president since he was not born on United States soil. He was born in Nevis, a British Isle in the Caribbean. They feared his inevitable rise and that he may carry out his plans of conquest from Florida to Mexico, thus invoking a potential war with Spain and France. Hope this helps.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #68 on:** July 22, 2009, 03:02:06 PM »

Quote from: blacken700 on July 22, 2009, 02:38:35 PM

The Birthers: Dobbs and Conservative Media Feeding "The Wacko Wing"

Look, I think this is a sideshow compared to health care & cap 7 trade and the bailouts.

tonymctones · « **Reply #69 on:** July 22, 2009, 03:02:48 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on July 22, 2009, 03:00:02 PM

Did you realize that both Bush and his father, Clinton, Reagan, Carter have never shown a birth certificate? Actually, you can extend it further back as you like. Do you think Abraham Lincoln even had a birth certificate? Or William Henry Harrison? Or Martin Van Buren?

Also, I know that you have no clue about history, especially about American History, so I will explain now why the provision of being born in America exists. It was put in by the founders to prevent Alexander Hamilton from being president since he was not born on United States soil. He was born in Nevis, a British Isle in the Caribbean. They feared his inevitable rise and that he may carry out his plans of conquest from Florida to Mexico, thus invoking a potential war with Spain and France. Hope this helps.

why quote someone when you dont even address their points TA...

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #70 on:** July 22, 2009, 03:04:00 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on July 22, 2009, 03:00:02 PM

Did you realize that both Bush and his father, Clinton, Reagan, Carter have never shown a birth certificate? Actually, you can extend it further back as you like. Do you think Abraham Lincoln even had a birth certificate? Or William Henry Harrison? Or Martin Van Buren?

Also, I know that you have no clue about history, especially about American History, so I will explain now why the provision of being born in America exists. It was put in by the founders to prevent Alexander Hamilton from being president since he was not born on United States soil. He was born in Nevis, a British Isle in the Caribbean. They feared his inevitable rise and that he may carry out his plans of conquest from Florida to Mexico, thus invoking a potential war with Spain and France. Hope this helps.

That's right, only TA knows history, science, math, etc.

polychronopolous · « **Reply #71 on:** July 22, 2009, 03:05:25 PM »

Perhaps because their "elected representatives" condone this sort of nonsensical behavior....

muscleforlife · « **Reply #72 on:** July 22, 2009, 04:17:34 PM »

I don't think the POTUS should lower himself to this idiocy.
If the FBI, Secret Service, his Rabid political opponents could have proved he was born out of the USA and Muslim, then what does that say about the rest of the country?

A huge conspirarcy amongst all of these participants?

Looney tunes.
Sandra

sync pulse · « **Reply #73 on:** July 22, 2009, 05:20:17 PM »

If he was born in Hawaii in 1961,...regardless of the citizenship status of his parents,...he is a natural born US Citizen, same as I am. There is no more of an acid test than birth on US territory.

If you want to rip the President on something, rip him on carbon emission, energy, something that has merit,...something that won't diminish your credibility.

headhuntersix · « **Reply #74 on:** July 22, 2009, 05:29:06 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on July 22, 2009, 03:00:02 PM

Did you realize that both Bush and his father, Clinton, Reagan, Carter have never shown a birth certificate? Actually, you can extend it further back as you like. Do you think Abraham Lincoln even had a birth certificate? Or William Henry Harrison? Or Martin Van Buren?

Also, I know that you have no clue about history, especially about American History, so I will explain now why the provision of being born in America exists. It was put in by the founders to prevent Alexander Hamilton from being president since he was not born on United States soil. He was born in Nevis, a British Isle in the Caribbean. They feared his inevitable rise and that he may carry out his plans of conquest from Florida to Mexico, thus invoking a potential war with Spain and France. Hope this helps.

Maybe because his old man was not born here and there is some question......thanks for the wiki history lesson.