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14 Big Lies told at the Press Conference last night.
« on: July 23, 2009, 09:13:20 AM »
Obama Tells 14 Healthcare Lies!
By Peter Andrew


President Barack Obama told no fewer than 14 healthcare lies during his press conference last night on the “ObamaCare nightmare.” From the Official Obama Administration Scandals List…

ObamaCare Press Conference Lie # 1 7/22/9 - Twice during his press conference, Obama lied saying he inherited from President Bush a $1.3-trillion federal budget deficit. Not true. On July 13th, we reported the deficit had just topped $1-trillion for the first time ever. That is Obama’s deficit. Bush never had a deficit anywhere near $1.3-trillion. Does Obama mean instead that the budget plan would have maybe created such a deficit for him in his own term? He’s certainly not wording it that way! For Obama to say so is an outright lie. Even the Associated Press noted: “Obama is…proposing a budget that assumes a jaw-dropping deficit of $1.75 trillion this year, a quadruple increase from the year before.” - More fuzzy math from this socialist administration.

ObamaCare Press Conference Lie # 2 7/22/9 Obama makes the outrageous claim that the USA is “no healthier than any other nation” despite the money we spend on healthcare. Clearly an unsubstantiated claim.

ObamaCare Press Conference Lie # 3 7/22/9 Obama says the “biggest driving force behind the federal deficit is the skyrocketing costs of Medicare and Medicaid.” Not True. Fox News reported on July 13th the real causes for Obama’s huge deficit: “the huge deficit is caused by, “the huge sum the government has spent to combat the recession and financial crisis, combined with a sharp decline in tax revenues. Paying for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan also is a major factor.”

ObamaCare Press Conference Lie # 4 7/22/9 Obama repeated his pledge that his health care plan “won’t add to the deficit. And I mean it!” Later he even added his plan is “designed to lower it!” - So what of the Congressional Budget Office’s conclusion that the House bill does add to the deficit? Democrats and the Obama administration argue that the $245 billion included for doctors — the approximate 10-year cost of adjusting Medicare reimbursement rates so physicians don’t face big annual pay cuts — does not have to be counted in the overall cost of the health care bill. Their only-in-Washington reasoning is that they already decided to exempt it from congressional “pay-as-you-go” rules that require new programs to be paid for. In other words, it doesn’t have to be paid for because they decided it doesn’t have to be paid for“!!!!!

ObamaCare Press Conference Lie # 5 7/22/9 Obama says his plan “lowers healthcare expenses.” The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office says that’s not true. How long until he starts firing the CBO guys just like the inspectors generals he has canned?

ObamaCare Press Conference Lie # 6 7/22/9 Obama says his plan will, “slow the growth of healthcare expenses.” What growth?! You just said it is going to lower the expenses! Apparently there will be growth in expenses just like the CBO said this plan would do.
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ObamaCare Press Conference Lie # 7 7/22/9 Obama says the Obamacare plan will “improve health care for seniors.” Not true. Rationing care means some get it and some don’t. Those with better chances (younger people) will get the care, the seniors won’t. Also, Obama says he’ll save money by getting rid of “things that don’t make you healthier.” HE gets to decide what those things are, not seniors or geriatric doctors!

ObamaCare Press Conference Lie # 8 7/22/9 Obama lies (David Axelrod repeated the lie on 7/23/9) saying his healthcare proposal “promotes choice.” Wrongo. The plan eliminates choice by 2013. Those seeking new health insurance will have no choice at all in 2013. They will HAVE TO go with the government-run, socialist healthcare plan. See the 7/21/9 scandal on the list where he said he’s “not familiar” with that part of the plan!!

ObamaCare Press Conference Lie # 9 7/22/9 Obama has the audacity to claim that he’ll pay for 2/3rds of his $1.5-Trillion healthcare plan by realizing “savings” from the fact the government will run healthcare!!! Has the government ever saved us a dime running anything?! What makes him think he can do so now? $600 hammer anyone?

ObamaCare Press Conference Lie # 10 7/22/9 Obama was dishonest with the american people when he claimed the “debt and deficit are deep concerns of mine.” We have demonstrated his deficit deception here. Democrats no longer care about deficits. Even the Associated Press noted: “Obama is not simply proposing a budget that assumes a jaw-dropping deficit of $1.75 trillion this year, a quadruple increase from the year before. He’s trying to redirect strong currents in American society.”
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ObamaCare Press Conference Lie # 11 7/22/9 Obama used his own “new math” to claim he reduced the deficit! He said doing nothing would mean a budget deficit of $9.3-Trillion over ten years, something he can’t possibly know. But, he said with his changes it will only be $7.1 trillion in ten years. He is already up to $1-trillion in the first year (and climbing rapidly). So, how does he claim that it will go down so dramatically while he increases healthcare spending? CBS News Chip Reed asked him about it at an earlier press conference (click here to see the video) basically “asking what about years 6, 7, 8 and 9 of his budget when the deficits keep going up, up, up. The president said “we’ll make new budgets by then,” and basically not to worry about it since it is so far away!!” - So, the President is using ficticious future budget cuts from a time when he may not even be president to claim that he is reducing the budget deficit! More blazing deficit hyprocrisy. We have been Leading the way Right on this story. Check out what we said on 3/21/9.

ObamaCare Press Conference Lie # 12 7/22/9 Obama again used his own “new math” to make the bizarre claim that he has “cut spending.” It’s more of the “Obama Gap” we reported on April 21st: “addressing congress he promised to get rid of government programs that don’t work and cut out that spending, then he proposes the biggest increase in government spending ever, now he asks his cabinet to cut $100-million in spending. He wants to increase the size of government to $4-Trillion a year, and asked for a cut FROM HIS HUGE BUDGET REQUEST of 1/35,000th of the amount he wants to spend.” - And that is how he claims he has “cut” spending…he cut the size of his gigantic increase.

ObamaCare Press Conference Lie # 13 7/22/9 Answering a reporter question from a very hot news babe (who was that lady?), Obama said he wasn’t actually lying about having health care meetings on C-Span. He had said in the past these types of meetings were held in secret but in his new era of transparency, he would put them on C-Span. The reporter babe saw right through that. Obama says it wasn’t a lie though because he put the first meeting about healthcare on C-Span. The rest were all held in secret. Uhmmmmmmmmm….As O’Reilly said, “I have a master’s degree from Harvard and I don’t understand what the president is trying to say.”

ObamaCare Press Conference Lie # 14 - THE BIG ONE 7/22/9 Obama repeated his anti-Jim DeMint lie that the health care debate is “Not about me.” The Fox News Ticker earlier reported that U.S. Senator Chuck Grassley told them the president told a group of democrats, “You’re trying to destory my Presidency!” The hot-headed response came after the president learned a “large number” of centrist democrats are against his socialist healthcare plan. It really is all about him.


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Re: 14 Big Lies told at the Press Conference last night.
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2009, 09:14:38 AM »
This clown is like George W. Bush and Richard Nixon rolled into one!  ;D

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Re: 14 Big Lies told at the Press Conference last night.
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2009, 09:22:54 AM »
great thread.  I like threads with detailed list like that, more than just "zero sucks, palin is hot, here are 5 jerkoff pics of a middle-aged hatemonger".


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Re: 14 Big Lies told at the Press Conference last night.
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2009, 09:26:08 AM »
great thread.  I like threads with detailed list like that, more than just "zero sucks, palin is hot, here are 5 jerkoff pics of a middle-aged hatemonger".



Come on 240 - you know the Palin pics are for fun and laughs.   Your probably one of the only libs around here I actually like. 

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Re: 14 Big Lies told at the Press Conference last night.
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2009, 09:31:23 AM »
Come on 240 - you know the Palin pics are for fun and laughs.   Your probably one of the only libs around here I actually like. 


I'm not really a lib.  I understand after 8 years straight of "hooking the rick the Fck up" it was time for a socialist president to re-align the stars.  And in 3 or 7 years, it'll be time for a conservative to stop the spending.

I'm aware of the fact a one-party dominance is a bad thing.

I believe mccain would have done a stimulus bill just the same.  He, along with bush and obama and biden and palin, all supported the Bailout.  They would have done the same stim bill too.

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Re: 14 Big Lies told at the Press Conference last night.
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2009, 09:45:08 AM »

I'm not really a lib.  I understand after 8 years straight of "hooking the rick the Fck up" it was time for a socialist president to re-align the stars.  And in 3 or 7 years, it'll be time for a conservative to stop the spending.

I'm aware of the fact a one-party dominance is a bad thing.

I believe mccain would have done a stimulus bill just the same.  He, along with bush and obama and biden and palin, all supported the Bailout.  They would have done the same stim bill too.

This is where you are wrong 240.  If obama gets through these massive spending hikes, no one will be able to curtail the spending.  Obama's goal is to have everyone dependent on govt so it can never be curtailed. 

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Re: 14 Big Lies told at the Press Conference last night.
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2009, 09:53:02 AM »
This is where you are wrong 240.  If obama gets through these massive spending hikes, no one will be able to curtail the spending.  Obama's goal is to have everyone dependent on govt so it can never be curtailed. 

see, looking at history, something always seems to happen to 'reset' things.

suppose someone discovers some new energy source, or there is a WWIII where iran gets froggy.  Suppose anything happens.  Forty years ago, nobody would have believed we'd all have palm pilot computers and an internet could connect people like we are today.

My thought is that 20 years from now, there will have been so much innovation that this debt we're taking on to keep things afloat now will be irrelevant.

I mean, how long until nanotech is ready?  imagine a gold or grain or oil machine that can just print all the resources we want.  Suddenly debt matters naught.  Suddenly the pools of oil under middle east don't matter.  Suddenly there isn't limited resources and war just doesn't make as much sense anymore.

And nano is just the technology we see coming.  There's probably something better we could never guess today. 

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Re: 14 Big Lies told at the Press Conference last night.
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2009, 10:42:51 AM »
No details last night, more cheerleading, more misleading comments (I do not understand his analysis of the country's economics and deficits...he twists things horribly), nice way to ignore the CBO's report.  It seems like its all about his specific agenda for the country and they want to suppress any group or persons that don't agree with them.

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Re: 14 Big Lies told at the Press Conference last night.
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2009, 10:47:53 AM »
240 u really need to read more. If oil becomes irrelavant...it will cause twice as many wars.

 "mean, how long until nanotech is ready?  imagine a gold or grain or oil machine that can just print all the resources we want"......I have no idea what u mean but any future tech won't be given away for free. Things will get worse as resources get scarce. War, disasters and destabilization will continue for our lifetimes if not much longer.
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Re: 14 Big Lies told at the Press Conference last night.
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2009, 10:56:04 AM »
I can't stop getting the impression from this administration that...'we know more than you, we know you don't understand things so we'll make all the decisions for you, just get on board, never mind the details'
Cheney was the same way.  Screw these elitest politicians.  The people need to get back in control of their elected officials.  This administration is not transparent, that is one of the biggest farces yet.

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Re: 14 Big Lies told at the Press Conference last night.
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2009, 10:57:13 AM »
I can't stop getting the impression from this administration that...'we know more than you, we know you don't understand things so we'll make all the decisions for you, just get on board, never mind the details'
Cheney was the same way.  Screw these elitest politicians.  The people need to get back in control of their elected officials.  This administration is not transparent, that is one of the biggest farces yet.

Shoot - how many tonsils have you taken out fo the $$$$$ incentive????

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Re: 14 Big Lies told at the Press Conference last night.
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2009, 11:07:43 AM »
I can't stop getting the impression from this administration that...'we know more than you, we know you don't understand things so we'll make all the decisions for you, just get on board, never mind the details'
Cheney was the same way.  Screw these elitest politicians.  The people need to get back in control of their elected officials.  This administration is not transparent, that is one of the biggest farces yet.


Here is the difference as I see it. With Cheney and that subject, we're talking National Security and in part he's right. Ur not cleared to know ( or me for that matter). Its got nothing to do with ur intelligence level because "Shoot" I'm sure ur very intelligent but thats not the point.

   However with Barry, I think we can all see what Cap and Trade will do, what this healthcare plan, will do to this country. He promised to make things transparent, nope....he has lied and avoided questions that need to be answered. This is not about whats at Area 51...this is about spending money trying to fix or destroy our country.
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Re: 14 Big Lies told at the Press Conference last night.
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2009, 11:09:54 AM »
hahaha, yeah that comment should have pissed off a lot of ENT docs.
There are a lot of docs right now pissed at the AMA.  I want to write them a letter expressing my displeasure in their leadership endorcing Obama's policy without taking votes of physicians.  They are a political group and do not represent the majority of docs.  I hope their membership plummets.