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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2009, 02:48:18 PM »
BECAUSE MOST OF THE COUNTRY IS CENTER , NOT RIGHT WING NUT JOBS

Conservatives outnumber liberal at least 2 to 1. 

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« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2009, 03:15:50 PM »
THATS A BULLSHIT NUMBER
Conservatives outnumber liberal at least 2 to 1. 

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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2009, 03:19:05 PM »
THATS A BULLSHIT NUMBER

Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals Almost Two to One in America, According to Washington Post Poll
Friday, July 24, 2009
By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief


(CNSNews.com) - Americans who consider themselves conservatives now outnumber Americans who consider themselves liberal by almost two to one, according to a new poll by the Washington Post and ABC News.

In the poll of 1,001 adults conducted between July 15-18, respondents were asked: “Would you say your views on most political matters are liberal, moderate, or conservative?”

Thirty-eight percent said they were conservative, while only 20% said they were liberal.  Thirty-nine percent, meanwhile, said they were moderate.

The percentage of self-described conservatives has increased since President Barack Obama was inaugurated in January and the percentage of self-described liberals has diminished.  A Washington Post poll conducted in mid-January, shortly before the inauguration, showed 32% saying they were conservative, 24% saying they were liberal and 42% saying they were moderates.

The poll’s margin of error is +/- 3 points.

A Post poll done in late March also had 38% of respondents describing themselves as conservatives, but the percentage of conservatives dipped to 35% in an April poll and 36% in a June poll.

The highest percentage that conservatives have achieved in this poll since the beginning of the 2008 presidential election cycle (in January 2007) was 39%. That came in a September 2007 poll, several months before the first 2008 presidential primaries.

The highest percentage that liberals achieved in this poll during the same time frame was 25%, a mark they hit in both February 2008, in the midst of the presidential primaries, and July 2007.
 
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Here are the results from a Washington Post-ABC News Poll that asked respondents whether they considered their views on most political matters liberal, moderate or conservative.
 


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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2009, 10:07:16 PM »
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Heard on the radio today, Clinton and Bush were low like this after 6 months.  Carter and HW were high.

Niether Bush nor Clinton were majority presidents in thier first terms. Clinton won with a plurality and Bush won with a minority. Also, a lot of unthinking people were blaming Bush for the recession, which he actually inherited. Considering how everyone was gushing over him in the begining, Obama's drop to 49% in 6 months is astonishing. Even I didnt think it would happen this fast. Has a President ever insulted both doctors AND cops in the same press conference?
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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2009, 10:20:05 PM »
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Europe has always had much higher UE than us, but we are getting there because of socialistic economic policies

Yep. And what is sad is that if you talk to some of them online, they think thier standard of living is much higher. Ofcourse, some countires in the EU arent doing bad. Ireland, Luxembourg, Switzerland - those countries are in some ways doing as good as us or better. People talk about emulating Canada or Britain's healtcare system, but I would much rather be like the Swiss in terms of healthcare.
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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2009, 12:53:27 AM »
Obama's drop to 49% in 6 months is astonishing.

Where did he start?  60s?

if he printed ten trillion bucks, shoved healthcare and cap/trade down our throats, and unemployment is higher than ever...

and if he only lost 12 or 15 points -

then he's doing pretty damn well.



I think repubs are celebrating after the first quarter, at this point.  He did more socialist/lib shit in 6 months than clinton did in 8 years.  And he's down 12 points?  that's it?


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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2009, 07:13:34 AM »
Well gee 240- with the entire media in his pocket, both houses of Congress democrat majority, everyone under 40 brainwashed, 100% of black voters, 90% of spanish voters, all the poor people (including some homeless and deceased people who cant vote) and all the "intellectuals" in the tank for this idiot, its a miracle he's fallen at all. If he was anyone else they would have stormed the white house and thrown him out on his ass already.

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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2009, 07:27:44 AM »
Well gee 240- with the entire media in his pocket, both houses of Congress democrat majority, everyone under 40 brainwashed, 100% of black voters, 90% of spanish voters, all the poor people (including some homeless and deceased people who cant vote) and all the "intellectuals" in the tank for this idiot, its a miracle he's fallen at all. If he was anyone else they would have stormed the white house and thrown him out on his ass already.

I dunno... blogs and web have made it pretty transparent.  most people smell 911 fishiness or WMD lies, and not because Brian WIlliams on NBC Nightly News told them so.

People know what Obama is doing.  and he's lost maybe a tenth of them.  I'm actually shocked he hasn't lost 20 points in 6 months of left-winging it.  If/when he turns moderate and starts patting himself on the back for afghanistan or something, he'll climb back up.

In other words, we're all shit poor and he's shoving a welfare state with Charmin $ down our throat, and he'd probably still win re-election tomorrow.  You can't blame the media.  Blame the fact that a shitty economy puts more ppl on unemployment and not a one of them getting free govt $ is gonna vote (R).

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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2009, 07:52:24 AM »
I dunno... blogs and web have made it pretty transparent.  most people smell 911 fishiness or WMD lies, and not because Brian WIlliams on NBC Nightly News told them so.

People know what Obama is doing.  and he's lost maybe a tenth of them.  I'm actually shocked he hasn't lost 20 points in 6 months of left-winging it.  If/when he turns moderate and starts patting himself on the back for afghanistan or something, he'll climb back up.

In other words, we're all shit poor and he's shoving a welfare state with Charmin $ down our throat, and he'd probably still win re-election tomorrow.  You can't blame the media.  Blame the fact that a shitty economy puts more ppl on unemployment and not a one of them getting free govt $ is gonna vote (R).

Check out the dissaproval level skyrocketing and approval rate plummeting. 


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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2009, 07:57:06 AM »
I don't really know why anyone puts much faith in Polls, for cripe sake they survey .000005% of the population
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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2009, 07:57:55 AM »
Blogs have made it pretty transparent? ::)

This fucking guy just had a healthcare infomercial air on one of the major networks. He sends shivers up the spines of the talking heads on cable news and he's on the cover of rolling stone every other month. The only people who give a shit about blogs are internet dweebs, college kids ( who are almost invariably brainwashed to vote democrat no matter what) and people like you and me that have a somewhat heightened interest in politics. By and large the blogs dont reach the huddled masses or the poor people or the people who are too busy to pay attention.  Outside of Fox and a few isolated hosts on CNBC and CNN, Obama gets zero criticism and nothing but praise from the overwhelming majority of the media. Despite his best efforts to destroy the country, he is still at or above 50% in every major poll.

240- think back to your blind disdain for GW Bush. Think about how he managed to be a two term president. Do you think it was because of the blogs? No. It was because the religious right, the poor and uneducated and those afraid of another terrorist attack voted him in. The media was 110% against him and so were the blogs, every major celebrity, every academic, every newspaper etc. 2 Michael Moore movies later GW was sitting in office with his middle finger up. People believe what they want to believe even if a shitstorm of information showing the contrary slaps them across the face. This time is no different.  

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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2009, 07:59:04 AM »
I don't really know why anyone puts much faith in Polls, for cripe sake they survey .000005% of the population

These polls might drive the policy or the dems to drop their insanity if they think they will lose big in 2010.

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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2009, 09:21:12 AM »
Check out the dissaproval level skyrocketing and approval rate plummeting. 

i would expect it would be way worse, given everything he's done.

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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2009, 09:22:49 AM »
i would expect it would be way worse, given everything he's done.

Look 240 - you and I love this stuff and are far more informed than the average dolt. 

I think there is a lag for things to set in. 

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« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2009, 10:08:02 AM »
Look 240 - you and I love this stuff and are far more informed than the average dolt. 

I think there is a lag for things to set in. 

true.

but IMO he'll do what bush did right before the election.  Some big 'mission accomplished' ceremony, etc.  And we'll all rally behind him.

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« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2009, 10:11:56 AM »
The Navy was behind that, not Bush or the admin. They cringed when they saw it because they knew full well what the fall-out would be. 240 Bush is gone.....u really need to look at what Barry is doing instead.
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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2009, 01:02:13 PM »
obama is smacking the country with simulus, healthcare, cap/trade, and a lot of other things, all at once.

Despite this, he is still only at 50%.  that's incredible.

And, instead of ppl talking about the healthcare mess... they want to talk about a professor and a cop. 

You mean they speak about a racist president who plays favoritism for his friends in the expense of police officers that do their duty.

Wow...big surprise...Rev.Wright and Rezco best pal is a liar & a hypocrite   ::)

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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #42 on: July 26, 2009, 08:21:12 AM »
I can only guess he will switch to a moderate platform next year, right about the time the economy starts to recover.

He'd be in sweet shape with some moderate bills, unemployment dropping, and maybe some military wins in Afghanistan.

Dude, he's only at 50%, despite 6 months of far-left policy.  he should be at 35 lol...  he's gonna be coasting high once he switched to moderate mode - which I believe he will do.

Switched to moderate mode? He was ALREADY SUPPOSED TO BE IN MODERATE MODE! He campaigned as a moderate. But, now that he's in office, the liberal has come forth.

Or, to borrow from a former NFL football coach, "Barack Obama is who we thought he was!!"

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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #43 on: July 26, 2009, 02:33:14 PM »
i predict obama goes moderate before the 2010 elections.

it would be the smart move.  people have short memories.  In 2012, they won't be talking about early 2009 legislation as much as they'll be talking about all the exciting moderate stuff he did in 10, 11, and 2012.

you think ANY media will be talking about cap/trade if we catch bin laden?

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« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2009, 04:21:51 PM »
What makes u think this.....where is there any record of Obama ever doing anything like that. 240 u really can't make predictions on shit without any shred of proof. Barry has done exactly what many here said he's do. He's a leftist and without any serious need, like to save his worthless political skin, he would move center. Nobody cares about Bin laden when they can't get a job.
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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2009, 04:30:34 PM »
i predict obama goes moderate before the 2010 elections.

it would be the smart move.  people have short memories.  In 2012, they won't be talking about early 2009 legislation as much as they'll be talking about all the exciting moderate stuff he did in 10, 11, and 2012.

you think ANY media will be talking about cap/trade if we catch bin laden?

This is like a "duh" statement. Some conservatives on this very board have blasted Obama for trying to rush through policies that he knew would be considered a lot more controversial if he wasn't so popular. I'm not necessarily a supporter of cap&trade, but as I've stated before, I don't think it's destined to fail like it has in Europe.

Two things to keep in mind with this Rasmussen poll: It was conducted in the wake of the police "scandal" and the poll actually contained questions concerning it. This issue was actually pretty divisive among middle-grounders, specifically when it came to race. I think this was actually the tipping issue for the most recent poll. Whether it will be in the weeks to come remains to be seen.

 The second thing to remember is that more than half of the poll respondents still feel that the economic mess we're in is Bush's fault. My point? These poll numbers aren't necessarily a reaction to this admin's policies.

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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #46 on: July 26, 2009, 04:34:27 PM »
The Navy was behind that, not Bush or the admin. They cringed when they saw it because they knew full well what the fall-out would be. 240 Bush is gone.....u really need to look at what Barry is doing instead.

Apropos of nothing, this isn't true. the White House originally tried to float that story, but slowly changed the story until they admitted that they had made all of the arrangements for the sign.

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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #47 on: July 26, 2009, 04:56:26 PM »
Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals Almost Two to One in America, According to Washington Post Poll
Friday, July 24, 2009
By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief




This story is somewhat dubiously presented.

A link to the original poll referenced in the story you posted:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_072009.html?sid=ST2009072400003

While more people do claim to be conservative than liberal, the largest portion of respondents claimed to be moderate, and a good deal of those people lean liberal. (Obama considers himself moderate, yet many in this thread consider him lib)

Furthermore, the poll asks some pointed dem/repub questions. Scroll to the bottom and you will see that the number of respondents who consider themselves dems is 33-22% in comparison to Repubs. The number of people leaning dem outnumbers repubs 22-16%.

According to that poll, 62% of people believe Obama has brought much needed change to Washington and 71% believe he is a strong leader.

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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2009, 10:51:13 AM »
Obama’s Slipping Popularity

July 27th, 2009 Goto comments Leave a comment The public opinion honeymoon appears to be over for the Obama Presidency. Here’s what our latest measure of his popularity shows:


A new Zogby Interactive survey shows a slight decline in President Barack Obama’s job approval, with 48% of likely voters now approving of the job he is doing as president, down from 51% who said the same in an interactive/telephone hybrid poll conducted in mid-June. Forty-nine percent now say they disapprove of the job the president has done so far in office and 4% are not sure.

“The survey found similar results when likely voters were asked specifically to rate President Obama’s performance—47% give him a positive rating, with 22% rating his job performance as “excellent” and 25% rating it as “good.” But slightly more than half (53%) give the president a negative job performance rating, with 10% who say he is doing a “fair” job as president and 43% who say he is doing a “poor” job—up from 36% who said he was doing a poor job in mid-June. (Zogby uses a four-point scale of excellent, good, fair and poor, and aggregates excellent and good to determine positive ratings.)”

First of all, the two scales are identical showing President Obama with about as many approving as disapproving,” said John Zogby, President and CEO of Zogby International. “What is troubling for the President is not only his slide with voters but that they are re-polarized. He is strong with Democrats but only has 6% approval from Republicans and 40% from Independents. Support from young voters is high (59%) but he is down several points from the margin they gave him in November 2008. His support wanes as voters get older.

Was Obama’s quest for a post-partisan politics naïve?  Are people losing faith in his ability to boost the economy, and in his approach to issues such as health care? Or, do voters still stand very much where they were on Election Day, when Obama won 53% of the vote? Given the Democrats’ edge over Republicans in party identification, does Obama still hold the upper hand?

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The failed stimulus bill will be the albatross around his neck for 3 years.

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Re: DRUDGE: Cool turns cold: Obama 'BELOW 50%'
« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2009, 03:36:59 PM »
Rasmussen: Obama Double-Digit Negatives 

Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:07 PM

A new Rasmussen Reports poll shows that President Barack Obama's rating in Rasmussen's Presidential Approval Index has hit negative double digits for the first time.

The survey found that 29 percent of voters strongly approve of Obama's job performance, while 40 percent strongly disapprove.

Rasmussen calculates its Presidential Approval Index by subtracting the "strongly disapprove" figure from the "strongly approve" figure. As a result, Obama's overall score is a minus-11. That's the first time his rating has reached negative double digits.

Other results of the poll:

49 percent somewhat approve of Obama's performance.

50 percent disapprove of Obama's performance.

76 percent see Obama as liberal.

48 percent see Obama as very liberal.

54 percent primarily blame former President George W. Bush for America's economic woes.

25 percent say the U.S. economy has been aided by the economic stimulus package.

53 percent oppose the Democratic healthcare reform package.

37 percent say deficit reduction should be Obama's top priority.

20 percent say healthcare should be Obama's top priority.

The poll is based on answers from 1,500 likely voters. It has a margin of error of +/- 3 percentage points.
 
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Rasmussen_poll_obama/2009/07/26/240224.html