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As her prematurely terminated stint as governor of Alaska fades into history and questions swirl about her future plans, Sarah Palin is proving to be a “divisive figure” for Republicans, says a top Republican speechwriter.

David Frum, a columnist and the speechwriter widely credited with coining the “axis of evil” phrase, says Palin is a polarizing figure both within and without the Republican party.

Frum, along with conservative pundit Ann Coulter, returned to CBS’s Early Show Monday morning after having made an appearance, along with Bay Buchanan, on the show’s Saturday edition two days earlier, to discuss the same topic — Sarah Palin.

During that first discussion, Coulter described Palin as being “a bigger story than the president of the United States,” pointing to the president’s declining popularity numbers.

Though CBS did not address why they would bring in two conservative pundits twice to discuss another conservative, it was clear that Frum was positioned to play the role of Palin critic — and in doing so, he showed exactly how Palin’s ascendancy to political stardom has split US conservatives.

“Her divisiveness is not just within the country, it’s divisive within the party, and many fear, as I do, that while she’s very popular with some Republicans … she represents a future that leads the party both to political defeat and then to ineffectiveness in government,” Frum told CBS’s Harry Shearer.

Frum went on the attack against Palin’s style of politics.

“It is an amazing thing that a governor whose most notable achievement in office was to distribute an extra $1200 a year to every resident in Alaska would include in her speech an attack on government handouts,” Frum said.

“She’s also leaving her state in great fiscal difficulty, and I don’t know what kind of right-wing Republican you are when you say ‘I’m giving away money that I’ve raised by raising taxes on oil companies.’ As a right winger, it’s a strange approach.”

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Re: Frum: ‘Divisive’ Palin has no chance of being president
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2009, 11:37:50 AM »
240 - Frum is a perfect example of why the GOP sucks.

He is a typical panzy RINO. 



 

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Re: Frum: ‘Divisive’ Palin has no chance of being president
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2009, 11:40:11 AM »
240 - Frum is a perfect example of why the GOP sucks.
He is a typical panzy RINO. 

WTF?  he's about as republican as they come.  HE is the one who coined "axis of evil".



Following the election of George W. Bush in 2000, Frum was appointed to a position within the White House. He served as Special Assistant to the U.S. President for Economic Speechwriting from January 2001 to February 2002.

Frum strongly supported John Roberts, George W. Bush's nominee for Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court. However, like many conservatives, he opposed the nomination of Harriet Miers for the Supreme Court, on the grounds that she was insufficiently qualified for the post, as well as insufficiently conservative.

David Frum is now a resident fellow of the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think-tank, as well as the Fraser Institute, a Canadian based think tank that advocates free market policies. He is on the board of directors of the Republican Jewish Coalition.[8] On October 11, 2007, Frum announced on his blog that he was joining Rudolph Giuliani's presidential campaign as a senior foreign policy adviser.[9] [10]


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Re: Frum: ‘Divisive’ Palin has no chance of being president
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2009, 11:42:07 AM »
Didn't David Frum support Obama ?




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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2009, 11:44:43 AM »
Yeah, lets follow this guy.   ::) ::)

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Re: Frum: ‘Divisive’ Palin has no chance of being president
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2009, 11:47:51 AM »
Republicans for Obama  (David Frum)

http://www.republicansforobama.org/?q=node/4149

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Re: Frum: ‘Divisive’ Palin has no chance of being president
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2009, 11:50:42 AM »
Good point.  Settle for palin in 2012, repubs.  Giftwrap Obama that second term.

What you're not seeing is that obama is one shrewd dude.   he was quite theatrical in 2008 leading up to the election.  I believe he'll do that in 2012.  Lots of public victories, emphasis on successes he's seen. 

Go ahead and back palin.  Obama thanks you for not choosing a repub who can win middle of road voters.

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Re: Frum: ‘Divisive’ Palin has no chance of being president
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2009, 11:52:24 AM »
Once a Patriot - ALWAYS A PATRIOT!  

If she gets her act together over the next year with a forensics coach, studies up on different issues, she will be unstoppable.   I have always said she needs a lot of work, but she has the potential.

The Damage ZERO is doing by the hour will make it easier for her, or anyone for that matter to get elected.

240 - the egg on your face is growing by the hour over so many issues pertaining to your defence of the Idiot-in-Chief.  
    

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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2009, 11:53:42 AM »
Good point.  Settle for palin in 2012, repubs.  Giftwrap Obama that second term.

What you're not seeing is that obama is one shrewd dude.   he was quite theatrical in 2008 leading up to the election.  I believe he'll do that in 2012.  Lots of public victories, emphasis on successes he's seen. 

Go ahead and back palin.  Obama thanks you for not choosing a repub who can win middle of road voters.


I thought that was supposed to be McCain?

You know what happens when you are in the middle?   You get run over by both sides. 

 

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Re: Frum: ‘Divisive’ Palin has no chance of being president
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2009, 12:05:38 PM »
 She is not my first choice, but I would damn sure take her over Obama,  and I would damn sure take her over another Harvard or Yale graduate, with never having a real job.

4 requirements before I will even consider giving you my vote in the future

1.)  no more lawyers

2.)  no more Harvard or Yale Alumni

3.)  must have had a real job, before going into Politics  ( besides being a lawyer)

4.)  Against Amnesty


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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2009, 12:13:42 PM »
She is not my first choice, but I would damn sure take her over Obama,  and I would damn sure take her over another Harvard or Yale graduate, with never having a real job.

4 requirements before I will even consider giving you my vote in the future

1.)  no more lawyers

2.)  no more Harvard or Yale Alumni

3.)  must have had a real job, before going into Politics 

4.)  Against Amnesty



Good points. 

The other difference is that Palin does not hate this country. 

While she may not have the Harvard law degree, she has basic values and a love for this nation that ZERO does not.

Like I said, she needs a ton of work, but at this point I would choose her in a heartbeat over what we have now.     

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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2009, 12:16:36 PM »
Good points. 

The other difference is that Palin does not hate this country. 

While she may not have the Harvard law degree, she has basic values and a love for this nation that ZERO does not.

Like I said, she needs a ton of work, but at this point I would choose her in a heartbeat over what we have now.     

That's crazy... She's not in any way shape or form better than what we have... And what we have is better than what we had before.

Obama has some dumb shit going on, but really, he's not worse... Palin would be.

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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2009, 12:20:59 PM »
That's crazy... She's not in any way shape or form better than what we have... And what we have is better than what we had before.

Obama has some dumb shit going on, but really, he's not worse... Palin would be.

Ok.  Lets see:

1.  Would she have 28 Czars not accountable to the congress or public?
2.  Would she propose massive taxes on energy? 
3.  Would she propose a takeover of the auto, health, bank, industry?
4.  Would she accuse Cops of being racist while not knowing the facts of the situation?
5.  Would she go on a world apology tour and talk shit oabout our country to whoever would listen? 
6.  Would she support and cozy up to dictators and anti-american dictators? 
 

Most likely not.

 

 

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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2009, 12:24:20 PM »
Good point.  Settle for palin in 2012, repubs.  Giftwrap Obama that second term.

What you're not seeing is that obama is one shrewd dude.   he was quite theatrical in 2008 leading up to the election.  I believe he'll do that in 2012.  Lots of public victories, emphasis on successes he's seen. 

Go ahead and back palin.  Obama thanks you for not choosing a repub who can win middle of road voters.


By the time 2012 comes Obama will be a national joke.The economy will suck,he will be outed as the racist he is[happening as we speak]and he will be despised.Any republican will defeat him.

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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2009, 12:25:00 PM »
By the way WE JUST RAN A FREAKING MIDDLE OF THE ROAD CANDIDTATE HE GOT STOMPED.WAKE UP!!

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Re: Frum: ‘Divisive’ Palin has no chance of being president
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2009, 12:27:42 PM »
By the time 2012 comes Obama will be a national joke.The economy will suck,he will be outed as the racist he is[happening as we speak]and he will be despised.Any republican will defeat him.

Really?

The economy will suck?

Did you not read Newsweek?

The Recession is over... So I guess it's kinda better already.

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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2009, 12:31:43 PM »
Really?

The economy will suck?

Did you not read Newsweek?

The Recession is over... So I guess it's kinda better already.

Ha ha.  The recession is over????? UE is going to go to over12% officially by 2010 while Obama said it would not go past 8% WITHOUT EHE STIMULUS BILL. 

Do you know why these companies are making money?????  They are saving money from all the layoffs and cost cutting, not from new business. 

Foreclosures and Unemployment are racing higher while the consumer is 70% of GDP.  Local taxes are going sky high, so where is the money from the consumer going to come from?   

You cant seriously beilieve that nonsense from the Obama propaganda machine.

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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2009, 12:33:27 PM »
You cant seriously beilieve that nonsense from the Obama propaganda machine.

there are millinos of americans who will spend more this month because 'the news' tells them the recession is over.  We all know this.

Perception is all that matters.  if UE gets 'down' to 8% by 2012, obama will claim vistory and most swing voters will just agree.

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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2009, 12:36:07 PM »
there are millinos of americans who will spend more this month because 'the news' tells them the recession is over.  We all know this.

Perception is all that matters.  if UE gets 'down' to 8% by 2012, obama will claim vistory and most swing voters will just agree.

Talk about mass manipulation! 

Actually, that is freaking horrible in my mind.  Why enourage people who need to save more $$$ to go back to spending $$ they dont have on crap???   

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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2009, 01:18:51 PM »
there are millinos of americans who will spend more this month because 'the news' tells them the recession is over.  We all know this.

Perception is all that matters.  if UE gets 'down' to 8% by 2012, obama will claim vistory and most swing voters will just agree.

Every single expert predicts unemployment will stay at the levels they are now or go up over the next 5 years.THERE WILL BE ZERO jobs created.We are seeing a bump in housing because the government is offering 8,000dollars to first time home owners plus prices are very cheap.THat program ends in Nov.Housing will drop right back down and the market will reflect that.On top of that,inflation is on the way.This economy will look JUST LIKE Carters economy.

The very fact that housing buys go up BECAUSE of a tax credit SHOULD tell us something but you cant really tell libs anything because their goal is control,NOT economic growth.

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Re: Frum: ‘Divisive’ Palin has no chance of being president
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2009, 01:28:10 PM »
Mark Levin is the man!!!! I've been listening to him alot lately.  Dude is dead on!!!!!

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Re: Frum: ‘Divisive’ Palin has no chance of being president
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2009, 02:36:13 PM »
People just can't stop talking about the woman. 


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Re: Frum: ‘Divisive’ Palin has no chance of being president
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2009, 02:44:45 PM »
People just can't stop talking about the woman. 

She's the Britney or lindsey of politics.

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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2009, 02:48:10 PM »
She's the Britney or lindsey of politics.

Or not.

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Re: Frum: ‘Divisive’ Palin has no chance of being president
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2009, 02:58:32 PM »
Or not.

we can all agree there are more qualified republicans, with more experience and skills.

we can all agree palin is a lightning rod for attention, just like britney or lindsey who are nowhere near th best singers out there, but who get way more media coverage due to their drama.

If Palin looked like madeline albright, with a whole 2.5 years of half-assing it as gov of 600,000 people, a run in 2012 would be laughable.