FOX NEWS POLL: Best Job for Palin is.....HOMEMAKER moreso than President or VP

[Straw Man]

she pretty much sucks as homemaker too considering one kid got knocked up in highschool and had to get a GED and another had to join the military to avoid jail (allegedly).  The jury is still out on the rest of her brood but she probably makes a good moose stew.

[Soul Crusher]

she pretty much sucks as homemaker too considering one kid got knocked up in highschool and had to get a GED and another had to join the military to avoid jail (allegedly).  The jury is still out on the rest of her brood but she probably makes a good moose stew.

Hey Straw, how about this? 

[BM OUT]

she pretty much sucks as homemaker too considering one kid got knocked up in highschool and had to get a GED and another had to join the military to avoid jail (allegedly).  The jury is still out on the rest of her brood but she probably makes a good moose stew.

Ever see her daughter?The youngest one NEVER leaves her side.That shows me all I need to know.By the way,the jail story was another left wing liberal  lie NEVER proven!!!The military doesnt take in criminals who are trying to avoid jail.This is a typical Keith "the idiot" Olberman crappy ass lie.

By the way,talking about jail,any word on how that freaking junkie Patrick Kennedy is doing.I never hear Olberman or his drag character Maddow speak about him.I guess getting "knocked up" is much worse then being in rehab FOUR times.

[LurkerNoMore]

I don't recall Patrick Kennedy running for second highest office in the nation.  So your point is what?  Do you even have one?

[BM OUT]

At least Obama is in better health than McCain.  You should be thankful for that.

And why the continued ranting about steroids?  Are you addicted?  They have always been and always will be controlled substances.  There isn't going to be any legalization of them if that is what you are hoping for.  So quit sounding like a pothead crying to get his habit legalized.  Unless I missed the point where any of the GOP candidates were Pro-Steroid.  Which one was that?

You show your amazing stupidity.Until the Biden steroid hearings they were NOT a controlled substance and it was a midemeaner to get caught with them.Biden is responsible for that.He was the guy who stood up and said "there is something un-American about steroids" .What a tool!!!

There actually was a candidtate that wasnt pro steroids but wasnt anti-steroids and that was Ron Paul.Once again,Biden has passed more anti-drug laws then anyone ever has.He is the taker of liberty AND the dumbest man to have ever served in the senate and now as vice president."THATS JUST JOE".

By the way,I pray for poor health for Obama AND his tranny wife.By the looks of his man boobs his health isnt great.

[Soul Crusher]

You show your amazing stupidity.Until the Biden steroid hearings they were NOT a controlled substance and it was a midemeaner to get caught with them.Biden is responsible for that.He was the guy who stood up and said "there is something un-American about steroids" .What a tool!!!

There actually was a candidtate that wasnt pro steroids but wasnt anti-steroids and that was Ron Paul.Once again,Biden has passed more anti-drug laws then anyone ever has.He is the taker of liberty AND the dumbest man to have ever served in the senate and now as vice president."THATS JUST JOE".

By the way,I pray for poor health for Obama AND his tranny wife.By the looks of his man boobs his health isnt great.

This is a true patriot and american. 

[LurkerNoMore]

You show your amazing stupidity.Until the Biden steroid hearings they were NOT a controlled substance and it was a midemeaner to get caught with them.Biden is responsible for that.He was the guy who stood up and said "there is something un-American about steroids" .What a tool!!!

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The Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990 became law on November 29, 1990, when President Bush signed the Omnibus Crime Control Bill. The law applies in every Federal court across the country. It places steroids in the same legal class - Schedule III -- as amphetamines, methamphetamines, opium and morphine.
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That is when steroids became a Class III.  When BUSH - not Biden - signed the law.  So you can whine and try to split hairs and shift the blame all around if you want but it doesn't change the fact that Bush made the law, not Biden.

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The Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990 became law on November 29, 1990, when President Bush signed the Omnibus Crime Control Bill. The law applies in every Federal court across the country. It places steroids in the same legal class - Schedule III -- as amphetamines, methamphetamines, opium and morphine.
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That is when steroids became a Class III.  When BUSH - not Biden - signed the law.  So you can whine and try to split hairs and shift the blame all around if you want but it doesn't change the fact that Bush made the law, not Biden.

Why do you humiliate yourself you stupid bitch.You arguing with me about steroids or ANYTHING lifting related is like me arguring with you about picking up men in a restroom.The steroid controll act was enacted BECAUSE of the Biden commision on steroids.PERIOD!!!Its was that commision that put steroids into the controlled substance catagory and BUSH then signed the bill.Please,stop humiliating yourself.You might know about gay porn but your knowlege of steroids and lifting is a joke so stick with things you might know about.

Biden: Biden’s Anabolic Steroid Control Act adds 18 substances to the list of banned anabolic steroids, including androstenedione (also known as "andro") and tetrahydrogestrinone (THG). Biden’s measure also provides $15 million for education programs to teach kids about the dangers of steroids. It also calls for criminal penalties for those caught making, selling, or possessing these substances. "Steroid use by young people is a serious health issue. A lot of kids don't know harmful this stuff really is," said Biden, Co-Chairman of the Senate Drug Caucus. "This new law sends a strong message about andro and other steroid precursors – we are calling them what they really are: drugs, performance enhancing drugs. They should be labeled as such, they should be treated as such, and now, thanks to this new law, they will be controlled in the same manner as other anabolic steroids." “It’s not only a health issue but also a values issue,” Biden continued. “If kids think that all of the best athletes are ‘on the juice,’ what does that teach them? I think it teaches them that they should use steroids or steroid precursors to get ahead and win the game; that cheating is OK. This offends me to my core. The United States is the ultimate meritocracy and it is absolutely un-American to take a performance-enhancing drug to get an unfair competitive advantage.” Steroid precursors, or "pro-steroids," are chemically related to the substances scheduled in the 1990 Controlled Substances Act that made trafficking in steroids illegal. When ingested, these substances metabolize into testosterone or other illicit steroids. The United States Anti-Doping Agency, the group in charge of testing Olympic athletes for performance enhancing drugs, has called these products "the functional equivalent of steroids." Many physicians, parents and coaches have called for action against these dangerous

NOW I COULD GIVE YOU MANY MANY MANY OTHER EXAMPLES OF HOW THIS DISGRACE HAS STOLEN OUR LIBERTY BUT IM SURE YOU CAN GOOGLE IT..

[LurkerNoMore]

Soooo... what you are saying is Biden authored this report, delivered this report and with NO OTHER VOTES ON IT BY ANY OTHER MEMBER OF CONGRESS he then snuck into the Oval Office and signed Bush's name to it?

Because that is the only way I can figure that he would be solely responsible for this.  Unless of course you are just talking shit again and avoiding facts.  Which giving your history of being a hysterical crying whiny little bitch is what I am going with. 

So twist the fairytale however you wish to justify your little delusions and insecurities.  Doesn't change the fact that Biden has not made or passed a law on his own.  No matter what you claim.

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Advocates of steroid law reform are very disappointed that Democratic presidential candidate Barrack Obama selected Senator Joseph Biden as his vice presidential nominee. Senator Biden was the chief architect of the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 1990 that criminalized the possession of anabolic steroids for non-medical purposes. Biden also wrote the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2004 which opened the door for significantly harsher penalties for steroid possession and steroid distribution; this has resulted in the increased prosecution of steroid users over the past few years who are treated as dangerous criminals with the worst penalties for the non-medical use of steroids in history. Senator Biden has been on his anti-steroid crusade for almost two decades.

Steroid law expert Rick Collins revealed in testimony to the United States Sentencing Commission that the typical non-medical steroid users has been misrepresented to the public and to legislators.

The “typical” steroid user has been presented as fitting one of two profiles: either the million dollar sports star, or the hapless teenager seeking to emulate him…

The overwhelming majority were gainfully employed, health conscious adult males, between 25 and 45 years of age, using hormones not for athletic performance but to improve their appearance. These users typically are non-smokers who follow exercise routines including both strenuous weight training and cardio programs, and adhere to healthful diets. Do they put too high a premium on superficial appearances? In my opinion, absolutely. Are they overcompensating for underlying self-esteem issues? Perhaps, in many cases. Are they assuming risks that might potentially be harmful to them? Probably, yes, as do smokers, drinkers, and extreme sports enthusiasts. But however misguided we may judge nonmedical users of these hormones to be, I seriously question whether they are the sort of dangerous criminals deserving of extended prison terms…

Their motivation, whether labeled as vanity or an excessive quest for self-improvement, is unlike the motivation that drives the use of every other controlled substance. However misguided steroid use without medical supervision may be, it is long-range, goal-oriented behavior. Steroid users are the virtual antithesis of the typical drug offender.

Yet Senator Joseph Biden had no problem criminalizing anabolic steroid use for gainfully employed, largely white collar, middle class, otherwise law-abiding steroid users. Those who have seen the steroid documentary Bigger Stronger Faster were given a glimpse of Senator Biden’s deep-seated psychological antipathy toward steroid users. Joe Biden is angry he was not good enough to make the baseball team and wants revenge.

Senator Biden has admitted that his anti-steroid zealotry originated with his failure to make the sports team in college; he was certain he was outperformed by some steroid user! As a senator, he has used his power and influence to get back at those superior athletes in sports who may have been using steroids. Of course, he is only figuratively punishing those athletes from his college days by criminalizing anabolic steroids for all individuals who use steroids for non-medical purposes.

Rick Collins sent me an email shortly after the announcement of Biden as Obama’s VP nominee with a link to Radley Balko’s disappointment over the Biden nomination.

Biden has sponsored more damaging drug war legislation than any Democrat in Congress. Hate the way federal prosecutors use RICO laws to take aim at drug offenders? Thank Biden. How about the abomination that is federal asset forfeiture laws? Thank Biden. Think federal prosecutors have too much power in drug cases? Thank Biden. Think the title of a “Drug Czar” is sanctimonious and silly? Thank Biden, who helped create the position (and still considers it an accomplishment worth boasting about). Tired of the ridiculous steroids hearings in Congress? Thank Biden, who led the effort to make steroids a Schedule 3 drug, and has been among the blowhardiest of the blowhards when it comes to sports and performance enhancing drugs. (emphasis added)

I agree that Barrack Obama’s nomination of Senator Joseph Biden is the worst possible pick for those of us interested in reform of anabolic steroid law. We know he is prone to exaggerating (the dangers and side effects of anabolic steroids) when he is angry but that is no excuse. We do not feel that federal drug policy, and specifically steroid law, should be based on the exaggerations of an angry man!

[240 is Back]

This is a true patriot and american. 

Patriotism and competence are not the same thing.




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[LurkerNoMore]

Advocates of steroid law reform are very disappointed that Democratic presidential candidate Barrack Obama selected Senator Joseph Biden as his vice presidential nominee. Senator Biden was the chief architect of the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 1990 that criminalized the possession of anabolic steroids for non-medical purposes. Biden also wrote the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2004 which opened the door for significantly harsher penalties for steroid possession and steroid distribution; this has resulted in the increased prosecution of steroid users over the past few years who are treated as dangerous criminals with the worst penalties for the non-medical use of steroids in history. Senator Biden has been on his anti-steroid crusade for almost two decades.

Steroid law expert Rick Collins revealed in testimony to the United States Sentencing Commission that the typical non-medical steroid users has been misrepresented to the public and to legislators.

The “typical” steroid user has been presented as fitting one of two profiles: either the million dollar sports star, or the hapless teenager seeking to emulate him…

The overwhelming majority were gainfully employed, health conscious adult males, between 25 and 45 years of age, using hormones not for athletic performance but to improve their appearance. These users typically are non-smokers who follow exercise routines including both strenuous weight training and cardio programs, and adhere to healthful diets. Do they put too high a premium on superficial appearances? In my opinion, absolutely. Are they overcompensating for underlying self-esteem issues? Perhaps, in many cases. Are they assuming risks that might potentially be harmful to them? Probably, yes, as do smokers, drinkers, and extreme sports enthusiasts. But however misguided we may judge nonmedical users of these hormones to be, I seriously question whether they are the sort of dangerous criminals deserving of extended prison terms…

Their motivation, whether labeled as vanity or an excessive quest for self-improvement, is unlike the motivation that drives the use of every other controlled substance. However misguided steroid use without medical supervision may be, it is long-range, goal-oriented behavior. Steroid users are the virtual antithesis of the typical drug offender.

Yet Senator Joseph Biden had no problem criminalizing anabolic steroid use for gainfully employed, largely white collar, middle class, otherwise law-abiding steroid users. Those who have seen the steroid documentary Bigger Stronger Faster were given a glimpse of Senator Biden’s deep-seated psychological antipathy toward steroid users. Joe Biden is angry he was not good enough to make the baseball team and wants revenge.

Senator Biden has admitted that his anti-steroid zealotry originated with his failure to make the sports team in college; he was certain he was outperformed by some steroid user! As a senator, he has used his power and influence to get back at those superior athletes in sports who may have been using steroids. Of course, he is only figuratively punishing those athletes from his college days by criminalizing anabolic steroids for all individuals who use steroids for non-medical purposes.

Rick Collins sent me an email shortly after the announcement of Biden as Obama’s VP nominee with a link to Radley Balko’s disappointment over the Biden nomination.

Biden has sponsored more damaging drug war legislation than any Democrat in Congress. Hate the way federal prosecutors use RICO laws to take aim at drug offenders? Thank Biden. How about the abomination that is federal asset forfeiture laws? Thank Biden. Think federal prosecutors have too much power in drug cases? Thank Biden. Think the title of a “Drug Czar” is sanctimonious and silly? Thank Biden, who helped create the position (and still considers it an accomplishment worth boasting about). Tired of the ridiculous steroids hearings in Congress? Thank Biden, who led the effort to make steroids a Schedule 3 drug, and has been among the blowhardiest of the blowhards when it comes to sports and performance enhancing drugs. (emphasis added)

I agree that Barrack Obama’s nomination of Senator Joseph Biden is the worst possible pick for those of us interested in reform of anabolic steroid law. We know he is prone to exaggerating (the dangers and side effects of anabolic steroids) when he is angry but that is no excuse. We do not feel that federal drug policy, and specifically steroid law, should be based on the exaggerations of an angry man!

Your epic wall of cut and paste still doesn't answer the very simple question.

How did Biden pass this law on his own with no votes from other members of Congress and signing Bush's name to it?

After all, you are sticking him with 100% of the blame and your frustrations, so therefore it is to be assumed that he did this all on his own.  How?

How?

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Your epic wall of cut and paste still doesn't answer the very simple question.

How did Biden pass this law on his own with no votes from other members of Congress and signing Bush's name to it?

After all, you are sticking him with 100% of the blame and your frustrations, so therefore it is to be assumed that he did this all on his own.  How?

How?

Ever hear of the good old boys network?One guy proposes a bill,sucks the other guys dick and he votes that guys way on the bill.Biden proposed the commision,he wrote the bill,he was the one who ignored the groups like the FDA who said there was ZERO reason for making steroids a controlled substance.HE DID IT ,IT WAS HIS FAULT.EVERY steroid expert agrees with this 100%.Joe Biden was the one responsible for it.Your question is foolish.Whos fault was it campaign finance got passed?JOHN MCCCAIN!!!The one who writes the bill is responsible for the passage of the bill because everyone in the congress and senate are gutless cowards!!

Now,on top of him getting steroids onto the controlled substance list he is also responsible for pro-hormones being take away.He is/was the biggest anti-liberty senator in history BY A MILE.On top of being the dumbest man to have ever served in the senate,hence his nickname THE DUMBEST MAN IN THE SENATE.

[LurkerNoMore]

You have yet to post solid proof that Biden is 100% responsible for your little steroid issues.

Until you can prove that no other person in Congress supported this and helped pass it, you are just a fumbling whining idiot.  But deflecting and shifting blame to non-issues like this is about the only option you got right now I suppose.

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You have yet to post solid proof that Biden is 100% responsible for your little steroid issues.

Until you can prove that no other person in Congress supported this and helped pass it, you are just a fumbling whining idiot.  But deflecting and shifting blame to non-issues like this is about the only option you got right now I suppose.

Well Id think even a half wit Obama supporter like you could read.It was his commision,it was his bill,it was his words that did it.Like I said,did any others vote for campaign finance reform?Of cource.Whos fault was it?McCains.Biden brought the issue up,ignored the medical experts and jammed it through.However,you know far more then guys like Rick Collins so you must be right.

By the way,we are doing fine.Obama is failing.Hes been exposed asthe racist he is,cap and trade is dying,health care is dying,his approval ratings are dropping like a stone,his stimulous is a failure.Thanks,we are doing just fine.

[LurkerNoMore]

Imagine the power Biden must wield in order to pass a law without anyone else agreeing with him and voting for it.  WOW!  Hard to imagine that.

Imagine Billy talking out of his ass and making fruity claims about things once again.  WOW!  Not so hard to imagine that one.

[Straw Man]

Hey Straw, how about this? 

for what?  A bumper sticker?

If all you want in a president is a hot chick then we can certainly do better than Palin.

BTW - have you heard any of her farewell speaches from last weekend.  Jesus Christ man you can't possibly understand what she's even talking about.

[LurkerNoMore]

BTW - have you heard any of her farewell speaches from last weekend.  Jesus Christ man you can't possibly understand what she's even talking about.

but... but.... but... Point guards driving through for a lay up to pass the ball while keeping their eye on the baskets aren't suppose to be understood much are they?

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Imagine the power Biden must wield in order to pass a law without anyone else agreeing with him and voting for it.  WOW!  Hard to imagine that.

Imagine Billy talking out of his ass and making fruity claims about things once again.  WOW!  Not so hard to imagine that one.

I'm sorry you cant read or comprehend or understand how the legislative process works.Cap and trade passed the house ITS CALLED THE WAXMAN/MARKEY BILL.Who is responsible for the bill?Now,think before you post,try to concentrate and take your nose out of Obamas ass,its WAXMAN/MARKEY they are responsible.Do you see how that works?The guy who writes the bill,has the commission,is the one spearheading the process is responsible.

I know its hard to grasp that your hero,THE DUMBEST MAN TO EVER SERVE IN THE SENATE has taken more liberty from us then anyone but thats the facts.You can twist it and turn it and obviously no matter how much evidence is put forth you don't believe it,but thats fine,thats how racist idiots like Obama get into office.Silly little but suckers like you stick your head in the sand and cover your ears and yell "nah,nah I don't hear you".So,its not surprising that you ignore the proof right in front of your eyes.You win,Biden had NOTHING to do with it.In fact he fought it.He never said "dam the science steroids need to be banned".You win,your a real deep thinker.You really showed me.

Lastly,I understand her a lot more then I understand Obama when he goes into his Jesse Jackson voice.That black preacher crap is so stupid it makes my head hurt.The guy is a Harvard graduate who acts like a street thug preacher when hes in front of black audiances.What a little jerkoff he truly is and a PROVEN racist!!

[LurkerNoMore]

So what you are admitting is that Biden didn't do it on his own?  Otherwise show me how he did it with no other votes from Congress.

or did he?  Very simple concept that no matter how much bullshit and smoke and mirrors you try, it isn't going to change the fact that you are just whining and excuse making.

Let's cut the bullshit ok.  Show me how many members of Congress voted for it and against it.  Then we will see how much Biden's "fault" this really is. 

Not that in the grand scheme of things, steroid regulations matter at all.   

[Straw Man]

Billy - help me out and explain WTF Palin in talking about in this speech (~ 1 1/2 minutes into the clip):

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/239933/july-27-2009/sarah-palin-will-be-missed

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So what you are admitting is that Biden didn't do it on his own?  Otherwise show me how he did it with no other votes from Congress.

or did he?  Very simple concept that no matter how much bullshit and smoke and mirrors you try, it isn't going to change the fact that you are just whining and excuse making.

Let's cut the bullshit ok.  Show me how many members of Congress voted for it and against it.  Then we will see how much Biden's "fault" this really is. 

Not that in the grand scheme of things, steroid regulations matter at all.   

Again,your so dense its sad.Has ANY piece of legislation been passed by one person?Obviously others voted for it.However,if it hadnt been for Biden it wouldnt have made it for a vote,it wouldnt have been an issue at all.Your logic is pathetic.Its like saying Obama isnt responsible for being president because others voted for him.If he hadnt run,the voters wouldnt have voted at all.If Biden hadnt had the commision,pushed it through,ignored the pleas of the 12 experts to not do it,made the deciding speech,it wouldnt have been an issue at all.HE wanted and made it an issue.NO ONE ELSE BUT HIM!!He was pissed off because he was a failure as an athlete and wanted revenge so he made it an issue.

You say it doesnt matter but it does matter.Its just more proof that this man loves to steal freedom and liberty.A guy who says a women should have the right to do what she wants with her body in the abortion debate then plays god and dictates to grown men what they can with their bodies.Hes a scum bag.

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Billy - help me out and explain WTF Palin in talking about in this speech (~ 1 1/2 minutes into the clip):

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/239933/july-27-2009/sarah-palin-will-be-missed

Not sure,can you tell me what Biden is saying here?

[Straw Man]

Not sure,can you tell me what Biden is saying here?

yep - Biden got his facts wrong (something he does alot) but at least it's not an incoherent word salad.  I can't figure what the fuck Palin is even talking about in that clip. 

[Soul Crusher]

Straw - you know what??? 

Whether it is Palin or Biden, we are all screwed.