I totally agree with the concept of MMA being everything people want to see in bodybuilding. The average guy who watches MMA thinks Liddell, Jackson, etc. are absolute monsters (and with the likes of Lesnar, Sherk, etc who do carry a lot of muscle on their frames they can be used as even better examples). With the average person when they look at bodybuilders there's always things being brought up like, "oh yeah, well could he fight, etc." but in the instance of MMA the physical prowess is there and proven...and the women are there too. Great observation Donkey.