How About A National Conversation On Race Hoaxes?

[Soul Crusher]

HOW ABOUT A NATIONAL CONVERSATION ON RACE HOAXES?
July 29, 2009

You could not ask for a more perfect illustration of the thesis of my latest book, "Guilty: Liberal Victims and Their Assault on America," than the black president of the United States attacking a powerless white cop for arresting a black Harvard professor -- in a city with a black mayor and a state with a black governor -- as the professor vacations in Martha's Vineyard.

In modern America, the alleged "victim" is always really the aggressor, and the alleged "aggressor" is always the true victim.

President Barack Obama planted the question during a health care press conference, hoping he could satisfy the Chicago Sun-Times, which has been accusing him of not being black enough. He somehow imagined that the rest of the country might not notice the president of the United States gratuitously attacking a cop in a case of alleged "racial profiling."

Oops.

Suddenly, with the glare of the national spotlight being turned on a small local story, it became clear that there was no "racial profiling" involved -- other than by the black Harvard professor, who lorded his credentials and connections over a white working-class cop.

We wouldn't have known about this case at all if the professor, Henry Louis Gates Jr., hadn't blast e-mailed the universe that he was harassed by racist cops. Gates thought it would be a feather in his cap, not realizing there are huge areas of the country where people don't think it's heroic to browbeat cops checking on you after you break into your own house, such as 99 percent of the country outside of Cambridge.

Contrary to liberals' ardent desire, Sgt. James Crowley was not on tape saying, "I know it's his house, but let's stick it to this uppity negro." (Curiously, the tape of Gates' call demanding to talk to the chief of police to "report" Crowley has been withheld. Some watchdog group has got to demand that tape.)

But what if Crowley hadn't been a model policeman who taught diversity classes and once famously gave mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to a black athlete?

What if the 911 caller had identified the suspected burglars as black, which it turns out she did not?

What if Crowley hadn't been fully supported by other cops at the scene, one Hispanic and one black? (Liberals will say cops stick together, but I say liberals stick together.)

What if, at some point in his life, Crowley had been accused -- falsely or not -- of racism?

His life would be ruined.

Desperate to blame the cop, despite the facts, some liberals have begun making up their own facts. Radio talker Opio Sokoni claimed Crowley told Gates to "shut up" and "I'm going to win, you're going to jail." Even Gates doesn't claim the cop said that.

On MSNBC's "Hardball," Chris Matthews said that Gates did not say, "I'll speak with your mama outside," as stated in the police report.

"He didn't say this," Matthews asserted as fact. This invented fact allowed Matthews to accuse the cop of engaging in "projection" and to conjure Crowley's psychological state, saying, this is "what a white guy thought a black guy would say."

Eugene Robinson endorsed Matthews' invented fact, saying: "I cannot imagine in this universe Skip Gates saying, 'I'll speak with your mama outside.'" As proof, Robinson explained that Gates "rolls with kings and queens and Nobel Prize winners." (I'm not "projecting" what I think a black man would say; he really said that.)

And then they both had a laugh about the cop applying racist stereotypes to such an esteemed figure as Professor Gates, who apparently would NEVER use the phrase "your mama."

First, unlike these aesthetes, I don't consider "your mama" such an implausible expression for someone to use.

Second, Sgt. Crowley wrote his police report, including the "your mama" line, long before he, or anyone else, could have imagined the arrest was going to become nationwide, front-page news.

Third, there's a video of Gates using the N-word all over the Internet, and in that short, three-minute video, Gates uses the phrase "your mama."

The only contrary evidence is that Gates recently denied that he told the cop he'd "speak with your mama outside." He also desperately wants to drop the subject.

The left's last-ditch attempt to defend a powerful black man's attack on a powerless white man is to say the arrest was improper. In Time magazine, Lawrence O'Donnell factually announced, "Yelling does not meet the definition of disorderly conduct in Massachusetts."

You can argue the facts in court, but there's no question that the police report described the misdemeanor offense of "disorderly conduct" under Massachusetts law, which includes engaging in "tumultuous behavior" in "any neighborhood," thereby causing public "inconvenience, annoyance or alarm."

As everyone who's read the police report knows, Gates is described as going on an extended tirade against the officer, calling him a racist, saying the officer didn't know who he was messing with, acting irrationally, following the officer outside to continue haranguing him, and engaging in "tumultuous behavior" in and outside his house, drawing a small crowd of alarmed onlookers and police.

Suppose a cop didn't arrest a guy who was ranting and raving -- in his own home -- and, an hour later, the hothead assaults someone. Policeman: I was as surprised as anyone that he shot his girlfriend! Every liberal in the country would demand the cop's head.

And by the way, try screaming at a judge that he's a racist and see what happens. Why should police officers deserve less protection than judges? They're in more danger.

The disorderly conduct charge was not dropped because it wasn't a good arrest. It was dropped, according to Gates' own lawyer, because of Gates' connections.

Before liberals declare that this a case of racial profiling and move on, how about liberals produce one provable example of racial profiling that isn't a hoax?

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Ann Coulter serves it up again.

 

[headhuntersix]

Just awsome....Anne crushed it.

[garebear]

Did Coulter ever serve in the military?

[24KT]

HOW ABOUT A NATIONAL CONVERSATION ON RACE HOAXES?
July 29, 2009

Before liberals declare that this a case of racial profiling and move on, how about liberals produce one provable example of racial profiling that isn't a hoax?

How about Susan Smith, ...the woman who drowned her own kids, but claimed she was car jacked and that they were kidnapped by a black man?

How about the run away bride who ditched her upcoming nuptials and claimed she was kidnapped by Mexicans?

How about the woman who was recently arrested at Disneyland with her daughter after claiming she was kidnapped by Black men.?

How about the woman who carved a B on her face and claimed she was attacked by a Black Barack Obama supporter?

Those were all hoaxes, ...but I tell you what wasn't a racial profiling hoax... Robbie Tolan.


...who got shot in his own driveway for DWB? (Driving while black)

Tell me Robbie Tolan wasn't a victim of racial profiling?

[garebear]

Did you ever took your nose out of Obama's ass?

Let's work on some verb conjugation.

[The Showstoppa]

Tell me Robbie Tolan wasn't a victim of racial profiling?

In all seriousness, without more info than what those vids provided, there is no way to know.   Maybe there is more info out that helps your claim, but from the vids we don't know if the cop had a legit reason to think the SUV was stolen, IE was it reported as such, etc...  If it was reported, completely changes everything.

Also, the issue of the mom being involved.  If the vehicle was thought to be stolen, whether it was Dolan's parents house, or not, is irrelevant.  For example, it could have been stolen and then the criminal just drives it back to his parents house.

It sounds like the poor guy who got shot was co-operating with the cops, but when the hysterical mom got involved, things went downhill.  All cops will tell you the worst calls are the domestics, which is essentially what this turned into when the parents came out of the house. 

I'll conjecture, which is what the Turks, newspeople and you are doing and say that the parents came outside, saw guns drawn on their kids and flipped out.....cop tried to control the mom, kid reacted as most anybody would and the cop totally over-reacted to the situation by shooting him IF the kid was truly on the ground and just raised up....we don't know, he could have been bum rushing the cop.  Of course the dad isn't going to explain it that way.

Sad that the man got shot, but doesn't automatically make it "racist" because the cop was white and he was black...  and that is yet another reason race relations are what they are.

[drkaje]

There are some days when I would sorta hit Coulter if she would STFU for a while.

[The Showstoppa]

There are some days when I would sorta hit Coulter if she would STFU for a while.

Hey doc, what is your take on that Tolan deal?  I wasn't aware of it when it happened.

[drkaje]

Hey doc, what is your take on that Tolan deal?  I wasn't aware of it when it happened.

No clue, Showstoppa.

Never even heard of it. I've stopped following politics until something interesting happens and had even stopped posting here a while because all the racist shit gets boring. I don't mind racism, LOL! Just seeing the same shit over and over again gets boring. If people care enough to be racist they should put the proper effort into being creative so shit doesn't get too old.

[Soul Crusher]

Or Twana Brawly or the Duke Lacross case. 

Or Freddy's in my hood where Rev. Al started a riot. 

[The Showstoppa]

No clue, Showstoppa.

Never even heard of it. I've stopped following politics until something interesting happens and had even stopped posting here a while because all the racist shit gets boring. I don't mind racism, LOL! Just seeing the same shit over and over again gets boring. If people care enough to be racist they should put the proper effort into being creative so shit doesn't get too old.

I know.  I enjoy a cheapshot racist post just to get under someones skin easily, but the long drawn out explanations bore me.  All races have dumbasses, awful people, good people and something in between. 

[drkaje]

I know.  I enjoy a cheapshot racist post just to get under someones skin easily, but the long drawn out explanations bore me.  All races have dumbasses, awful people, good people and something in between. 

It's hard to respect people who are lazy.

[24KT]

Hey doc, what is your take on that Tolan deal?  I wasn't aware of it when it happened.

It happened on the same day that Oscar Grant, a 22 year old Black man lying face down on the floor, was shot in the back and murdered by a BART Transit cop. Since he died, the story overshadowed Tolan's.

BART Cop shoots unarmed black man in the back:

Then too, the Bellaire Police have been exerting as much effort as possible to keep the Tolan incident out of the news.

Robbie Tolan has a press conference about the incident:

[24KT]

Here's the BART train shooting from another angle.

One thing they did right in this case, was to immediately close the train doors which no doubt prevented the passengers from leaving the train and going onto the platform. Had those passengers exited onto the platform after witnessing that, ...there might have been a lot more people dying that day.

Full footage of Bart Train shooting from another angle:

[The Showstoppa]

It happened on the same day that Oscar Grant, a 22 year old Black man lying face down on the floor, was shot in the back and murdered by a BART Transit cop. Since he died, the story overshadowed Tolan's.

BART Cop shoots unarmed black man in the back:

Then too, the Bellaire Police have been exerting as much effort as possible to keep the Tolan incident out of the news.

Robbie Tolan has a press conference about the incident:

I remember the BART one, the cops gun went off by mistake and then instead of trying to get the guy help they started confiscating phones....sad world we live in.


The second Tolan vid still doesn't provide any answers, just more inflamatory reporting.  It happend on 12/31, so there has to be other info on it out there somewhere.

[24KT]

I remember the BART one, the cops gun went off by mistake and then instead of trying to get the guy help they started confiscating phones....sad world we live in.

   Went off by mistake? 

Ya, ...that usually happens when you needlessly unholster your weapon, stand up, aim, and pull the trigger. 

The second Tolan vid still doesn't provide any answers, just more inflamatory reporting.  It happend on 12/31, so there has to be other info on it out there somewhere.

No one can find a stolen car report? Nor was there even an indication the officer ran a check on the plates.
No one can answer why a man lying on the ground, who raises up to get off the ground would be shot in the chest.
There are a lot of questions, ...but Bellaire police can't seem to come up with the right answers.

[Soul Crusher]

  Went off by mistake? 

Ya, ...that usually happens when you needlessly unholster your weapon, stand up, aim, and pull the trigger. 

No one can find a stolen car report? Nor was there even an indication the officer ran a check on the plates.
No one can answer why a man lying on the ground, who raises up to get off the ground would be shot in the chest.
There are a lot of questions, ...but Bellaire police can't seem to come up with the right answers.

Jag, do you want me to utterly embarass you and start posting some violent crime statistics?   

[The Showstoppa]

  Went off by mistake? 

Ya, ...that usually happens when you needlessly unholster your weapon, stand up, aim, and pull the trigger. 

No one can find a stolen car report? Nor was there even an indication the officer ran a check on the plates.
No one can answer why a man lying on the ground, who raises up to get off the ground would be shot in the chest.
There are a lot of questions, ...but Bellaire police can't seem to come up with the right answers.

It's amazing how two people can watch the same vid and see things that differently.  I saw a cop who had a gun trained on someone being handcuffed, in a crowded/hostile area who (like a dumbass) let his finger go from outside the trigger guard where it should have been, to shooting a guy.  Yes, he was wrong, but it wasn't a blatant "I'm going to cap this dude!" act.


Like I said about the Tolan, until I see more info, we don't know.  IF the cops did what is said, of course they were wrong.  But often the emotional aspect of relatives testimony is very different from what actually happened.  For example the family described the son as "asking the cop what he was doing to his mom" whereas I read another report that said he said "Get your motherfucking hands off my mom!"  Quite a bit different when taken in the context of a heated event taking place in a poorly lit driveway.

[24KT]

It's amazing how two people can watch the same vid and see things that differently.  I saw a cop who had a gun trained on someone being handcuffed, in a crowded/hostile area who (like a dumbass) let his finger go from outside the trigger guard where it should have been, to shooting a guy.  Yes, he was wrong, but it wasn't a blatant "I'm going to cap this dude!" act.

We saw the same thing. My sarcastic point is the officer had no business training his weapon on an unarmed man being cuffed lying face down on the floor. His weapon should NOT have been drawn to begin with!

Like I said about the Tolan, until I see more info, we don't know.  IF the cops did what is said, of course they were wrong.  But often the emotional aspect of relatives testimony is very different from what actually happened.  For example the family described the son as "asking the cop what he was doing to his mom" whereas I read another report that said he said "Get your motherfucking hands off my mom!"  Quite a bit different when taken in the context of a heated event taking place in a poorly lit driveway.

Even if he said that, ...he didn't deserve to be shot in the chest for it! He shouldn't have been stopped in the 1^st place. He was a private citizen in his own driveway, trying to enter his own home. His mother shouldn't have been manhandled, and he shouldn't have been shot.

[tonymctones]

We saw the same thing. My sarcastic point is the officer had no business training his weapon on an unarmed man being cuffed lying face down on the floor. His weapon should NOT have been drawn to begin with!
Even if he said that, ...he didn't deserve to be shot in the chest for it! He shouldn't have been stopped in the 1^st place. He was a private citizen in his own driveway, trying to enter his own home. His mother shouldn't have been manhandled, and he shouldn't have been shot.

goodness gracious jag honestly where do you get some of this bs you write?

Its standard procedure you see them have their guns trained on individuals even after they have been disarmed and are being hand cuffed. You dont know if they have another weapon or perhaps they will wrestle with the cop hand cuffing them perhaps grabbing their gun...Im not to familiar with the case youre discussing but your comment seemed generalized and you are totally wrong on that point.

[Soul Crusher]

HATE HOAX: Jussie Smollett’s Story Falls Apart – “Persons of Interest” Were Walking Away...
www.thegatewaypundit.com ^ | February 2, 2019 | by Jim Hoft
Posted on 2/4/2019, 12:10:16 PM by Red Badger

FULL TITLE:

HATE HOAX: Jussie Smollett’s Story Falls Apart – “Persons of Interest” Were Walking Away, Not in the Area – Jussie Was Carrying Sandwich When He Returned Home

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The Jussie Smollett ‘assault’ story continues to fall apart before our eyes.

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And, once again, the American media took the bait and ran with the unsubstantiated and ludicrous allegations by a vocal Trump-hating leftist.

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Actor Jussie Smollett arrived in Chicago on Monday night. He was out to get fast food at 2 a.m. when he was allegedly attacked by two Trump supporters in MAGA hats who recognized him in the freezing cold, beat him, poured bleach on him and put a noose around his neck.

It was -15 to -30 degrees wind chill on Tuesday morning.

mollett’s story keeps changing.

The manager later told police he overheard the assault.

Jussie Smollett’s manager allegedly claimed he overheard the attack?

This case keeps getting stranger. pic.twitter.com/y9wZqhIFmH

— Mike Cernovich 📽 🌹🦍 (@Cernovich) January 31, 2019

Jessie Smollett said he was assaulted and suffered a cracked rib but condo surveillance video shows Smollett walking past security to the elevator without telling them he had just been attacked by thugs who “beat the hell out of him” and “broke his ribs.”

Via Michelle Malkin:

Another bizarro detail overnight via @RobElgasABC7 – condo surveillance video shows Smollett walking past security to the elevator. Without telling them he had just been attacked by thugs who "beat the hell out of him" and "broke his ribs" acc. to @TMZ 🤔https://t.co/a59qjKpN1C

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) January 31, 2019

And Jessie Smollett says he was talking to his manager during the assault but he won’t turn over his phone.

Smollett's folly? The actor refuses to allow Chicago detectives to access his phone, in order to independently verify his manager's claim that he heard the "MAGA country" attack while they were talking. That's not shady.https://t.co/E5V49rX22D

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) January 31, 2019

Now this… The Associated Press reported that police had released images of “persons of interest” from surveillance camera footage, but were unable to find footage of Smollett being attacked. The persons depicted in the police release were said to be walking away from the scene prior to 1:45AM.

A consideration regarding the "potential persons of interest" being sought by police in connection with reported hate crime incident in Streeterville: The men are walking *away* from the attack scene 15-30 minutes *before* the incident, per police timing of events.

— CWBChicago (@CWBChicago) January 31, 2019

Jussie refused to turn his phone over.

#JussieSmollett and his manager say they were on the phone during the alleged attack. #ChicagoPolice say Smollett refused to turn over his cell phone to confirm that.

— Rafer Weigel (@RaferWeigel) January 31, 2019

Jussie claims he got his ass beat in -15 degree weather but at least they didn’t take his sandwich!

#ChicagoPolice source tells @fox32news that #JussieSmollett was seen on surveillance still holding his #Subway sandwich when he returned to the building after the alleged attack.

— Rafer Weigel (@RaferWeigel) February 1, 2019

[myt1]

HATE HOAX: Jussie Smollett’s Story Falls Apart – “Persons of Interest” Were Walking Away...
www.thegatewaypundit.com ^ | February 2, 2019 | by Jim Hoft
Posted on 2/4/2019, 12:10:16 PM by Red Badger

FULL TITLE:

HATE HOAX: Jussie Smollett’s Story Falls Apart – “Persons of Interest” Were Walking Away, Not in the Area – Jussie Was Carrying Sandwich When He Returned Home

=====================================================================

The Jussie Smollett ‘assault’ story continues to fall apart before our eyes.

=====================================================================

And, once again, the American media took the bait and ran with the unsubstantiated and ludicrous allegations by a vocal Trump-hating leftist.

=====================================================================

Actor Jussie Smollett arrived in Chicago on Monday night. He was out to get fast food at 2 a.m. when he was allegedly attacked by two Trump supporters in MAGA hats who recognized him in the freezing cold, beat him, poured bleach on him and put a noose around his neck.

It was -15 to -30 degrees wind chill on Tuesday morning.

mollett’s story keeps changing.

The manager later told police he overheard the assault.

Jussie Smollett’s manager allegedly claimed he overheard the attack?

This case keeps getting stranger. pic.twitter.com/y9wZqhIFmH

— Mike Cernovich 📽 🌹🦍 (@Cernovich) January 31, 2019

Jessie Smollett said he was assaulted and suffered a cracked rib but condo surveillance video shows Smollett walking past security to the elevator without telling them he had just been attacked by thugs who “beat the hell out of him” and “broke his ribs.”

Via Michelle Malkin:

Another bizarro detail overnight via @RobElgasABC7 – condo surveillance video shows Smollett walking past security to the elevator. Without telling them he had just been attacked by thugs who "beat the hell out of him" and "broke his ribs" acc. to @TMZ 🤔https://t.co/a59qjKpN1C

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) January 31, 2019

And Jessie Smollett says he was talking to his manager during the assault but he won’t turn over his phone.

Smollett's folly? The actor refuses to allow Chicago detectives to access his phone, in order to independently verify his manager's claim that he heard the "MAGA country" attack while they were talking. That's not shady.https://t.co/E5V49rX22D

— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) January 31, 2019

Now this… The Associated Press reported that police had released images of “persons of interest” from surveillance camera footage, but were unable to find footage of Smollett being attacked. The persons depicted in the police release were said to be walking away from the scene prior to 1:45AM.

A consideration regarding the "potential persons of interest" being sought by police in connection with reported hate crime incident in Streeterville: The men are walking *away* from the attack scene 15-30 minutes *before* the incident, per police timing of events.

— CWBChicago (@CWBChicago) January 31, 2019

Jussie refused to turn his phone over.

#JussieSmollett and his manager say they were on the phone during the alleged attack. #ChicagoPolice say Smollett refused to turn over his cell phone to confirm that.

— Rafer Weigel (@RaferWeigel) January 31, 2019

Jussie claims he got his ass beat in -15 degree weather but at least they didn’t take his sandwich!

#ChicagoPolice source tells @fox32news that #JussieSmollett was seen on surveillance still holding his #Subway sandwich when he returned to the building after the alleged attack.

— Rafer Weigel (@RaferWeigel) February 1, 2019

I went to this Twitter feed, and got to the police report.  https://dig.abclocal.go.com/wls/documents/020419-smollett-report-doc.pdf

As I started to read I thought back to the tweets and also the reports of bleach.  I decided to conduct a quick little experiment 5 minutes ago.  I'm posting right now just to be able to report what's observed soon.

No, I do not have anything better to do until I go to the gym in 45 minutes, and I can do other things while this is happening.   

[myt1]

How about Susan Smith, ...the woman who drowned her own kids, but claimed she was car jacked and that they were kidnapped by a black man?

How about the run away bride who ditched her upcoming nuptials and claimed she was kidnapped by Mexicans?

How about the woman who was recently arrested at Disneyland with her daughter after claiming she was kidnapped by Black men.?

How about the woman who carved a B on her face and claimed she was attacked by a Black Barack Obama supporter?

Those were all hoaxes, ...but I tell you what wasn't a racial profiling hoax... Robbie Tolan.

24KT, I'm not familiar with the Robbie Tolan case or the Disneyland one at all.  I definitely have heard a ton about Susan Smith, a good amount about the bride (Dateline special and news), and some about the B carving.  One major diferrence with these cases is they are to my knowledge just every day people.  They have no celebrity like Smollett, and no affluence or position of influence like the professor.  I feel that is very significant to point out.

I'm not here to say that racial profiling never happens, or that there are not some bad cops.  It does happen, but you have to admit there's some credence/validity as to why.  I've known/know a lot of cops.  A good # of them black, and a handful of Hispanic officers that have justified why and they are good people and "good' cops".  People that want to paint white policemen/women with a broad brushstroke as being racist and evil, are typically the same types that label white people in general as racist and evil.  That is just flat out wrong, misinformed, and in fact a form of revers racism IMO.

Regarding the Empire case.  It's interesting in the police report I posted a link to, that the section where it shows items recovered has "the noose" listed as a white rope.  More interesting is to the right side of that section is "Used as a weapon:" with the word "No" next to it.

[SOMEPARTS]

24KT, I'm not familiar with the Robbie Tolan case or the Disneyland one at all.  I definitely have heard a ton about Susan Smith, a good amount about the bride (Dateline special and news), and some about the B carving.  One major diferrence with these cases is they are to my knowledge just every day people.  They have no celebrity like Smollett, and no affluence or position of influence like the professor.  I feel that is very significant to point out.

I'm not here to say that racial profiling never happens, or that there are not some bad cops.  It does happen, but you have to admit there's some credence/validity as to why.  I've known/know a lot of cops.  A good # of them black, and a handful of Hispanic officers that have justified why and they are good people and "good' cops".  People that want to paint white policemen/women with a broad brushstroke as being racist and evil, are typically the same types that label white people in general as racist and evil.  That is just flat out wrong, misinformed, and in fact a form of revers racism IMO.

Regarding the Empire case.  It's interesting in the police report I posted a link to, that the section where it shows items recovered has "the noose" listed as a white rope.  More interesting is to the right side of that section is "Used as a weapon:" with the word "No" next to it.

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