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Calling the man a "banana-eating jungle monkey" was "a poor choice of words"?  Ya think?  lol . . .

Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
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BOSTON — Boston Mayor Thomas Menino wants to fire a Boston police officer and National Guard captain accused of sending an e-mail containing a racial slur about Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates, a spokeswoman said.

Officer Justin Barrett, 36, was suspended two days ago by the police department pending a termination hearing for sending out an e-mail that Elaine Driscoll, a police spokeswoman, said contained "racially charged language." The National Guard also suspended him.

"There is no room in the police department for this type of behavior," Dot Joyce, a spokeswoman for the mayor, said by phone today. "The mayor commends the police commissioner for taking swift and decisive action."

Barrett told WCVB-TV last night that he is "not a racist" and didn't mean to offend anyone. He said the expression he used in his e-mail was "a poor choice of words."

Barrett allegedly referred to Gates, director of the Harvard's W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for African & African American Research, as a "banana-eating jungle monkey" whom he would have sprayed in the face with pepper spray, according to the Boston Herald.

Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis said he apologized to Gates yesterday on behalf of the department.

Gates has been at the center of a controversy about race since he was arrested on July 16 by Cambridge police Sergeant James Crowley and charged with disorderly conduct. Police responding to the report of a break- in arrested Gates at his home. Prosecutors dropped the charge.

Boston police haven't released a copy of the e-mail.

The National Guard became aware of the e-mail on July 23 and suspended Barrett from duty after a preliminary investigation on July 25, according to a statement on the Guard's Web site.

"The Massachusetts National Guard does not and will not tolerate racially insensitive language," according to the statement. "The language contained in the e-mail violates policies of the Massachusetts National Guard and what it stands for."

Davis said he found out on July 28 that Barrett admitted writing the e-mail, and then suspended the officer and began the process to fire him.

"Police Commissioner Davis moved immediately to strip the officer of his badge and gun and proceeded toward a termination hearing," Driscoll, the spokeswoman, said.

Police officials became aware of the e-mail separately from the Guard when a lieutenant heard about it from officers who had seen it and reported it to his captain, Davis said at a televised press conference today. He said the department is investigating who on the force may have seen the e-mail.

"There is no indication it was widely distributed," Davis said. "This type of venomous rhetoric is severely damaging; we will not allow the unacceptable actions of one member to define who we are."

Police are also investigating how Barrett dealt with the community, Davis said. He said he is encouraged because officers were shocked by the e-mail and it was reported promptly.

He said he doesn't believe there is widespread racism in the Boston police department.

Cambridge Union Baptist Church pastor Jeffrey Brown, another speaker at the press conference, said he hopes police look at whether officers supported or rejected the e-mail when they saw it.

The church began more than 100 years ago as a place of worship for freed slaves and free blacks in the Boston area, according to its Web site.

The Boston Police Patrolmen's Association denounced Barrett's comments in a letter released last night and signed by Thomas Nee, the union's president.

"While the Boston Police Patrolmen's Association has a duty to assure that the contractual and due process rights of each and every member are protected, we strongly denounce these statements as being offensive and hurtful," the letter said.

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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2009, 11:21:57 AM »
And yet the Obama justice department dropped any charges against the black panthers who threatened white voters by weilding weapons and screaming "now you will know what its like to be rulled by the black man cracker".Something seems wrong.

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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2009, 11:30:55 AM »
Gates' behavior invites racist responses.

This officer's email is inappropriate and IMO, there should be a penalty...because he is an officer of the law.  However, these liberation theologist ultra-liberal blacks who won't move on from the past ensight hateful feelings among many people.  We shouldn't give these assh-les a platform to preach on.  Now this idiot Gates is going to release a book, pathetic how our system works.

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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2009, 11:33:58 AM »
Way to try and defend it shoot, i bet you'd be one of those good 'ol folks who thought blacks should be lynched cause gosh darn it they insight hateful responses!
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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2009, 11:36:50 AM »
Way to try and defend it shoot, i bet you'd be one of those good 'ol folks who thought blacks should be lynched cause gosh darn it they insight hateful responses!

how many people were fired for emails about Bush?

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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2009, 11:38:22 AM »
how many people were fired for emails about Bush?

How many people in a public position were caught sending e-mails regarding Bush's skin color?
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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2009, 11:44:31 AM »
How many people in a public position were caught sending e-mails regarding Bush's skin color?

You had people on television calling him a racist idiot EVERY single day.There was no need to email,it was there on tv,newspapers,magazines.

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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2009, 11:46:04 AM »
You had people on television calling him a racist idiot EVERY single day.There was no need to email,it was there on tv,newspapers,magazines.

Which people and what positions did they hold? Were they commentators or policeman?
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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2009, 12:29:43 PM »
Which people and what positions did they hold? Were they commentators or policeman?

Keith Olberman did it on a nightly basis.Madoow[who is OLberman in drag]did it as well.The mayor of New Orleans wanted to buiild a chocolate city.Maxine Waters said Bush was racist many times.

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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2009, 12:39:02 PM »
>Barrett told WCVB-TV last night that he is "not a racist" and didn't mean to offend anyone.


Does anyone ever admit to being a racist?  Even Klansmen deny they are racists. ::)

Having said that, the officer should receive a tongue lashing but he should not be fired.  It is not reasonable to fire anyone for holding a belief, attitude, or sentiment.  Similarly, communicating that sentiment to someone else who wants to hear it via a private email is not a crime.  Unless and until the officer does something more explicit—like act out his racist attitudes on an innocent public or coworkers he should not be fired.

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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2009, 12:39:57 PM »
>Barrett told WCVB-TV last night that he is "not a racist" and didn't mean to offend anyone.


Does anyone ever admit to being a racist?  Even Klansmen deny they are racists. ::)

Having said that, the officer should receive a tongue lashing but he should not fired.  It is not reasonable to fire anyone for holding a belief, attitude, or sentiment.  Similarly, communicating that sentiment to someone else who wants to hear it via a private email is not a crime.  Unless and until the officer does something more explicit—like act out his racist attitudes on an innocent public or coworkers he should not be fired.


I trust open racists far more than closet racists.  At least they are honest about it. 

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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2009, 12:44:40 PM »
I trust open racists far more than closet racists.  At least they are honest about it. 

Haha i knew just knew you were a racist sympathizer figures you would dislike obama. 
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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2009, 12:48:17 PM »
Nope, hate racist shit kc, but I truely believe people like Gates incite hate in his followers and incite hateful responces.  Gates does nothing but set back race relations.  But these are predicted responces to hateful people like him, I say it without emotion, its a matter of fact.  The officer needs to be reprimanded for his email, as I clearly stated in my 1st email.

None of my black buddies are anything like Gates.  He's a fucking upity prick that is obsessed with his own race and the past wrongs of this country.

kc, that was unfair.

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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2009, 12:48:46 PM »
Haha i knew just knew you were a racist sympathizer figures you would dislike obama. 

How do you equate the two?  

I said trust, I did not say agree with.  At least I know where I stand with a person.  I have friends from the DR who are openly hostile to whites.  It does not bother me and I prefer the speak openly to me as opposed to when my back is turned.  

Liberal whites are more racist than anyone else yet lie to your face about how "tolerant" they are while curing you in private.  Is that what you want?    

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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2009, 12:53:24 PM »
I trust open racists far more than closet racists.  At least they are honest about it. 

I don’t care for either.

It’s like the Taliban or evangelicals; people are free to hold any attitudes or beliefs they want (even bigoted ones) as long as they do not act them out in ways that impact the lives and livelihoods of others.  When you try to deny equal treatment under the law to people or start flying planes into buildings based on your personal beliefs then we have a problem.

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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2009, 12:55:20 PM »
Keith Olberman did it on a nightly basis.Madoow[who is OLberman in drag]did it as well.The mayor of New Orleans wanted to buiild a chocolate city.Maxine Waters said Bush was racist many times.

True, but I prefer someone who is open and honest about their beliefs to a coward who placates people and has certain views in private. 

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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2009, 12:56:46 PM »
Ur gonna fire this guy? Has anybody been killed, harmed, raped, disadvantaged economically? Give hima reprimand and move the fuck out.
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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2009, 12:57:41 PM »
he carries a gun and the ability to arrest people.

fire him.

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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2009, 01:00:18 PM »
Hey 240...why don't we fire u for saying something stupid. Maybe we can take away ur house and guns and kick ur family out in the street. Gimme a break.
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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2009, 01:01:10 PM »
An officer of the law can't write shit like that without a penalty.  They have a responsibility to treat people equally.

We have to stop putting Gates on a pedistal though.  Just because he is a professor doesn't mean he isn't an angry radical.  He needs to be called on it and the public needs to speak out against people like him.

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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2009, 01:01:37 PM »
Haha i knew just knew you were a racist sympathizer figures you would dislike obama. 

Obama doesnt suck because of his race.He sucks because of his policies,from the stimulous,to cap and trade,to health care,to card check.HE SUCKS!!!!!

Now,we can discuss what a little racist he is and how EVERY friend he has is either a racist or radical,but thats just ANOTHER reason to hate him,not THE reason.

Lastly,we can fire the cop if you want.When we will fire Maxine Waters for her MANY racist statements?

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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2009, 01:15:46 PM »
Hey 240...why don't we fire u for saying something stupid. Maybe we can take away ur house and guns and kick ur family out in the street. Gimme a break.

being a cop = higher code of ethics

when i was a teacher, if i made a racist joke or stripped with chippendales on weekend, I could lose my job.

are you okay if cops attend KKK rallies on the weekend?  Of couse not.  now we have a gray area where racist jokes are okay but attending racist meetings are not.  Hey, what if black cops want to be black panthers on their days off.  is that okay?

people with extra power have extra responsibility not to show racial bias.  At the very least, demote him and take away his gun for a year and make him attend a year of racial sensitivity courses.

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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2009, 01:24:35 PM »
With the info presented, I'd suspend the cop without pay for a period of time. 

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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2009, 01:33:23 PM »
being a cop = higher code of ethics

when i was a teacher, if i made a racist joke or stripped with chippendales on weekend, I could lose my job.

are you okay if cops attend KKK rallies on the weekend?  Of couse not.  now we have a gray area where racist jokes are okay but attending racist meetings are not.  Hey, what if black cops want to be black panthers on their days off.  is that okay?

people with extra power have extra responsibility not to show racial bias.  At the very least, demote him and take away his gun for a year and make him attend a year of racial sensitivity courses.

I’m not sure I agree.  People say the same thing about teachers, ministers, etc.  I often wonder what this “higher standard” is that people always refer to.  I think being a cop means following the law and doing your job.  I do not think sending a racist private email to a friend who is receptive to that kind of language is cause to fire someone.  Why is someone else reading his email anyway?  Unless and until the officer discriminates against members of the public or his fellow officers why fire him?  You can not fire people for what is in their heart.

btw, I think teachers should be free to act in porn or dance at Chippendales.

I am OK with a policeman who attends a KKK rally when he is off duty—as long as he does his job without bias or discrimination while in uniform (however unlikely that may be).  It is not just to fire someone in anticipation of what you think they might do because you happen to know they hold bigoted attitudes.

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Re: Boston mayor wants officer fired for e-mail about Harvard scholar
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2009, 01:40:01 PM »
How come the gay guy has the only rational and valid post on this subject. I'd have an issue with a cop at a KKK rally, but he makes a good point.
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