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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #50 on: August 01, 2009, 06:27:57 PM »
rugby may be cool, but NFL players are much stronger and bigger athletes.  no question there.

you're 100% correct...

Method101, I know youre a bit stubborn to your own ideals, but I've actually played both sports, and have come over to England to play in Rugby tournaments against very competitive teams.  I would say that even with pads, American Football is much rougher than Rugby.  I played with several athletes who had played both and they had similar sentiments.
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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #51 on: August 01, 2009, 06:30:20 PM »
Great call with Van Morrison, wavy. Seen him lots, too. If you get him on a 'good' night he is amazing. Get him on a 'bad' night and it is excruciating. Very artistic, temperamental.

He's one of my favourites, unfortunally I've never seen him life.
If his voice is there, very few people can do what he can.

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #52 on: August 01, 2009, 06:32:15 PM »
does Bono count?

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #53 on: August 01, 2009, 06:34:38 PM »
He's one of my favourites, unfortunally I've never seen him life.
If his voice is there, very few people who can do what he can.
Yes, indeed. There are very few acts that have had the longevity of Van. I'm thinking Neil Young, Joni Mitchel and Van, and only Neil is still making new fresh music. Joni has basically retired in California and Van just kinda releases blues covers these days. He still goes to Montreaux, tho, so maybe look for him there.    

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #54 on: August 01, 2009, 06:34:57 PM »
Bono is a nerk akin to bob geldof

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #55 on: August 01, 2009, 06:37:45 PM »
Yes, indeed. There are very few acts that have had the longevity of Van. I'm thinking Neil Young, Joni Mitchel and Van, and only Neil is still making new fresh music. Joni has basically retired in California and Van just kinda releases blues covers these days. He still goes to Montreaux, tho, so maybe look for him there.    

Let us not forget Bobby Dylan, still on his neverending tour. :)

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #56 on: August 01, 2009, 06:38:17 PM »
Bono is a nerk akin to bob geldof
i just met him a couple of time through annette lantos and have no idea what u just said  lol

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #57 on: August 01, 2009, 06:40:12 PM »
Bono and Bob Geldof think they are the angel Gabriel - Show offs - trying to save the planet the economy the world and blue whale all at once

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #58 on: August 01, 2009, 06:41:44 PM »
Let us not forget Bobby Dylan, still on his neverending tour. :)
Ah, good call. Even came to my small town recently. Not a good performance. Thank heavens these guys have such a rich back catalogue. I can just flip through my cds to find utter brilliance.  :)

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #59 on: August 01, 2009, 06:45:55 PM »
Ah, good call. Even came to my small town recently. Not a good performance. Thank heavens these guys have such a rich back catalogue. I can just flip through my cds to find utter brilliance.  :)

I also once saw him live, great performance in this case.

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #60 on: August 01, 2009, 06:51:09 PM »
One more from Van the Man 8)


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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #61 on: August 01, 2009, 06:53:31 PM »
Brown eyed girl is a classic from Van.

Okami is a pretty great export from Ireland

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #62 on: August 01, 2009, 06:56:27 PM »


Neanderthal man did survive in Ireland.



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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #63 on: August 01, 2009, 06:56:59 PM »
Brown eyed girl is a classic from Van.

The number of exceptionally great songs from Van is overwhelming.
Unfortunally probably one of the most underappreciated artists of all time.

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #64 on: August 01, 2009, 07:00:45 PM »
One more from Van the Man 8)


LOL. I was at wedding and this song came on and some idiot bridesmaid said 'that's Rod Stewart's song' and got all uppity and angry when I explained to her that this guy called VM wrote and sang it first. I might just as well have punched out the bride judging by her reaction.   ;D

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #65 on: August 01, 2009, 07:04:00 PM »
LOL. I was at wedding and this song came on and some idiot bridesmaid said 'that's Rod Stewart's song' and got all uppity and angry when I explained to her that this guy called VM wrote and sang it first. I might just as well have punched out the bride judging by her reaction.   ;D

Hahaha ;D

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #66 on: August 02, 2009, 12:50:41 AM »
oh lawdy people love debating about 'whos tougher'

truth is they are completely difference sports and cultures cant compare 'em!

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #67 on: August 02, 2009, 12:51:20 AM »
the same, except they are 100 times stronger, more athletic, and weight about 250 pounds.  A running back like barry sanders, or emmit smith (in their primes) would have made these guys look like 5 year old candy-stripers.

im sorry but LOL


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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #68 on: August 02, 2009, 12:58:10 AM »
Try Van Morrison and the chieftains ' Irish Heartbeat', folk mixed with a VM twist, very nice.

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #69 on: August 02, 2009, 02:02:36 AM »
Try Van Morrison and the chieftains ' Irish Heartbeat', folk mixed with a VM twist, very nice.

Agreed, great album.

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #70 on: August 02, 2009, 03:06:24 AM »
you're 100% correct...

Method101, I know youre a bit stubborn to your own ideals, but I've actually played both sports, and have come over to England to play in Rugby tournaments against very competitive teams.  I would say that even with pads, American Football is much rougher than Rugby.  I played with several athletes who had played both and they had similar sentiments.

Look at the end of the day they're different sports...people like to compare them because the skill sets are somewhat similar. But it's like comparing Rugby Union and League, its silly, the different requirements of the sport mean you cant just learn the rules and go from there. You have to change physique, your fitness needs to be of a different type, sometimes you need to bulk or lean...Trust me if NFL dudes had to lift in Lineouts and actually scrum, as well as being able to pass and run like todays props (all of whom are at least 270lbs) you wouldnt see guys weighing 320, they'd need to cut back to 280 or 270. Likewise to play football a Rugby prop would have to bulk up. As for Barry Sanders, he'd have to learn how to kick, pass and defend...you cant compare the two.

I say they're both great sports, and tough as shit...as I found out to my cost while playing!

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #71 on: August 02, 2009, 03:23:39 AM »
You know they have alot more rest periods in american football, rugby is a much more flowing game and more enjoyable to watch, also the players don't wear helmets and pads which also makes it better to watch.



I forgot how good Lomu was, people said he just a battering ram, but he had pace agility and great vision as well. To be honest I think now the game has been professional for some time the battering ram aspect of Lomu's game would be somewhat negated, but he'd be first on any team sheet for me. He revolutionised the game

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #72 on: August 02, 2009, 03:26:53 AM »
Ta ta nerds!

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #73 on: August 02, 2009, 06:28:47 AM »
Tuesday, 23 June 2009
Roma Driven Out Of Northern Ireland
It seems that the Loyalist racists have finally gotten their way and have driven the Roma out of Northern Ireland. Despite claims by the Police Service of Northern Ireland that the violence directed against the Romanian families wasn't sectarian, the latest round of Combat18 text and e-mails doing the rounds on the Loyalist estates prove different.

The Roma are a people that have survived centuries of persecution across Europe and have been subjected to numerous pogroms especially in Romania. That they have now chosen to return to a land where they have always been treated as second (if not third) class citizens, rather than remain in Belfast and continue to face the racist violence of recent months, says much about the state of Ulster society.

Following the fall of the Iron Curtain and the demise of the Communist governments that had largely kept the lid on the centuries-old endemic anti-Roma racism, an upsurge in racist persecution in the 80's and 90's drove large numbers of the Roma community into Western Europe. In the UK they faced widespread hostility and long waits for their asylum applications to be processed (s19D of the Race Relations Act 1976 specifically allowed discrimination against Roma in the asylum process that continued to exist until the 2000 Act was passed) but following Romania's accession to the EU in January 2007, they became European citizens and therefore had a legal right to remain.*

Many chose Northern Ireland and, with the sectarian troubles in the province, the right-wing bigots in the Loyalist groups had their hands too full hating the Fenians to bother with the Roma. But the end of the 'Troubles' put an end to that and the racists had to look for new more 'acceptable' targets. In 2004 there were estimated to be around 450 race hate crimes in the country. In the past 12 months this has risen to 1,000.

In April this year Poles were driven from their homes in Belfast in a series of coordinated attacks by Loyalist youths times to coincide with a Northern Ireland-Poland World Cup football match. This follows attacks against the Chinese and Slovak communities in the preceding years. Now it is the Roma and, with the electoral successes of the BNP and the growth of far-right splinter groups, it can only get worse.


*In Italy for example, the Roma have also come under increasing attack and the Berlusconi regime has introduced blatantly racist legislation, the likes of which has not been seen since the days of the Blackshirts

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Re: What makes Ireland great
« Reply #74 on: August 02, 2009, 06:50:11 AM »
The (Irish) English (language), the music, Guinness, Riverdance... lots of great things from Ireland.