Author Topic: Misunderstanding about natural limit. (Read 25978 times)

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #325 on:** August 09, 2009, 05:10:19 AM »

So kyomu you do not take any supplements at all? Just maybe proetin powder now and then?

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #326 on:** August 09, 2009, 05:19:13 AM »

Namat 5th too smooth.

Moen · « **Reply #327 on:** August 09, 2009, 06:41:45 AM »

Quote from: hazbin on August 08, 2009, 01:51:28 PM

the pics of me here (compared to Kymoyo) are from long after i took bodybuilding seriously. up till 1991 i trained and dieted literally like my life depended on it. in 1992 i bought a gym, and never really trained that hard again. up til 1992 i did absolutely minimal amounts of juice. and i was 10 times as grainy as recently when i relied more on drugs.

so higher drug use actually decreased my grainy look.

these pics are from 1990 and1991, the first two years that i used steroids; and in very low amounts.

i weighed 235 and 240 in these two pics.

And this guy could not be a pro kyomu? You must be completely blind

Some of the best caucasian genetics I have ever seen. Jay Cutler would kill for thin skin like hazbin has

kyomu · « **Reply #328 on:** August 09, 2009, 08:08:12 AM »

Quote from: Moen on August 09, 2009, 06:41:45 AM

And this guy could not be a pro kyomu? You must be completely blind
Some of the best caucasian genetics I have ever seen. Jay Cutler would kill for thin skin like hazbin has

90kg or 100kg shredded amas exist many.(Another reason why i dont want to juice)
But, 90-100kg shredded complete physic is rare.

kyomu · « **Reply #329 on:** August 09, 2009, 08:09:28 AM »

Quote from: Mr Nobody on August 09, 2009, 05:10:19 AM

So kyomu you do not take any supplements at all? Just maybe proetin powder now and then?

Since May, I havent taken any supps because of laziness.
But, I progress same. So why should i use them again?

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #330 on:** August 09, 2009, 08:23:20 AM »

Quote from: kyomu on August 09, 2009, 08:09:28 AM

Since May, I havent taken any supps because of laziness.
But, I progress same. So why should i use them again?

Creatine and vanadyl stack has worked well for me.

Mars · « **Reply #331 on:** August 09, 2009, 09:05:24 AM »

Mars · « **Reply #332 on:** August 09, 2009, 09:08:01 AM »

hazbin · « **Reply #333 on:** August 09, 2009, 06:53:32 PM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on August 08, 2009, 05:51:33 PM

IIRC, (and correct me if I'm wrong hazbin), but hazbin said he drinks a lot and takes cycles when his body can't take the booze anymore. That ain't too healthy either.

when i was young i was completely health conscious and i took alot for me to actually convince myself to do my first cycle. now, i treat my body like shit. i take painkillers everyday for arthritis and disc problems, i drink all the time, eat like shit.

so yeah, i was smart about my health when i was younger, now i just can't seem to give a shit.

gh15 · « **Reply #334 on:** August 10, 2009, 02:14:18 AM »

im witrh crazy mishko in this one ,,,i think kyomi took a lot more than one cycle of hormone,,not only that but when your friend is mr pako him self ,,, you just have hormones aounrd all over ready to be used ,,
not big user not heavy used but his height with his condition at 80kg for 5'7 guy...trhsoe fellas naturlaly stop at 70kg,, he is more than that A LOT MORE ,,,the best indonian natural i know compete at 5'7 152 lb on stage at better condition than kyomi but i would go and say here that in the prepatation for competition kyomi is clean and thats is also why he place bad,,

over all no one can prove anything not with the way drugs are now days and the masking agents around to cover for them ,,pill go in and out in a matter of 2 hours,,and thats with no masking agents,,

also naturals can get way beter condition than hormonized bodybuilders they will only be much smaller,,but their skin tone will be better and thinner,,they wont be as hard as hormonized true ,,but they will have better condition at smaller size if dier very hard ,,,they will also look like skeleton but condition will be 100%

almost no fellas i see on getbig are naturals from the competitors ,,the one natural fella i saw here is that feella with the boxing gloves,, now he is natural true natural never touched hotmones and he is also the best youll get ,,i forgot his name he has this picture with the boxing gloves and the boxing pants ,,something with 4 in the name or this for that or something

mj15 approved

kyomu · « **Reply #335 on:** August 10, 2009, 02:42:18 AM »

Quote from: gh15 on August 10, 2009, 02:14:18 AM

im witrh crazy mishko in this one ,,,i think kyomi took a lot more than one cycle of hormone,,not only that but when your friend is mr pako him self ,,, you just have hormones aounrd all over ready to be used ,,
not big user not heavy used but his height with his condition at 80kg for 5'7 guy...trhsoe fellas naturlaly stop at 70kg,, he is more than that A LOT MORE ,,,the best indonian natural i know compete at 5'7 152 lb on stage at better condition than kyomi but i would go and say here that in the prepatation for competition kyomi is clean and thats is also why he place bad,,

over all no one can prove anything not with the way drugs are now days and the masking agents around to cover for them ,,pill go in and out in a matter of 2 hours,,and thats with no masking agents,,

also naturals can get way beter condition than hormonized bodybuilders they will only be much smaller,,but their skin tone will be better and thinner,,they wont be as hard as hormonized true ,,but they will have better condition at smaller size if dier very hard ,,,they will also look like skeleton but condition will be 100%

almost no fellas i see on getbig are naturals from the competitors ,,the one natural fella i saw here is that feella with the boxing gloves,, now he is natural true natural never touched hotmones and he is also the best youll get ,,i forgot his name he has this picture with the boxing gloves and the boxing pants ,,something with 4 in the name or this for that or something

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Why?Too big to be a natural huh?

WillGrant · « **Reply #336 on:** August 10, 2009, 02:50:02 AM »

Quote from: kyomu on August 10, 2009, 02:42:18 AM

Why?Too big to be a asian natural that lives24/7 with a pro and known huge drug abuser huh?

Fixed

kyomu · « **Reply #337 on:** August 10, 2009, 02:55:11 AM »

Quote from: WillGrant on August 10, 2009, 02:50:02 AM

Fixed

The funny thing is, If I say i juice, people start to say "Bad responder","shitty genetic","looks like a natural"....
Anyway, here is Getbig..

Mars · « **Reply #338 on:** August 10, 2009, 03:07:28 AM »

why would you lie about your natural status

kyomu · « **Reply #339 on:** August 10, 2009, 05:39:13 AM »

Quote from: Mars on August 10, 2009, 03:07:28 AM

why would you lie about your natural status

I dont need to lie anything. What is the benefit?
If there is a big benefit, i would lie as much as i want.

mwbbuilder · « **Reply #340 on:** August 10, 2009, 08:11:11 AM »

Quote from: kyomu on August 10, 2009, 02:55:11 AM

The funny thing is, If I say i juice, people start to say "Bad responder","shitty genetic","looks like a natural"....
Anyway, here is Getbig..

Because that's what you say about natural who are better than you.

kyomu · « **Reply #341 on:** August 10, 2009, 08:14:06 AM »

Quote from: mwbbuilder on August 10, 2009, 08:11:11 AM

Because that's what you say about natural who are better than you.

Again. What a prejudice you have...
I know tons of natural who are better than me.
But, I say a general view.
If Dorian stayed natural, i am really sure that he is still harder than any juicers.

mwbbuilder · « **Reply #342 on:** August 10, 2009, 08:14:51 AM »

Quote from: gh15 on August 10, 2009, 02:14:18 AM

im witrh crazy mishko in this one ,,,i think kyomi took a lot more than one cycle of hormone,,not only that but when your friend is mr pako him self ,,, you just have hormones aounrd all over ready to be used ,,
not big user not heavy used but his height with his condition at 80kg for 5'7 guy...trhsoe fellas naturlaly stop at 70kg,, he is more than that A LOT MORE ,,,the best indonian natural i know compete at 5'7 152 lb on stage at better condition than kyomi but i would go and say here that in the prepatation for competition kyomi is clean and thats is also why he place bad,,

over all no one can prove anything not with the way drugs are now days and the masking agents around to cover for them ,,pill go in and out in a matter of 2 hours,,and thats with no masking agents,,

also naturals can get way beter condition than hormonized bodybuilders they will only be much smaller,,but their skin tone will be better and thinner,,they wont be as hard as hormonized true ,,but they will have better condition at smaller size if dier very hard ,,,they will also look like skeleton but condition will be 100%

almost no fellas i see on getbig are naturals from the competitors ,,the one natural fella i saw here is that feella with the boxing gloves,, now he is natural true natural never touched hotmones and he is also the best youll get ,,i forgot his name he has this picture with the boxing gloves and the boxing pants ,,something with 4 in the name or this for that or something

mj15 approved

Nice try, Nassar. I'll give you a hint as to who is is. He wrote you 5 part series of articles on bodybuilding.com.

kyomu · « **Reply #343 on:** August 10, 2009, 08:16:58 AM »

Quote from: mwbbuilder on August 10, 2009, 08:14:51 AM

Nice try, Nassar. I'll give you a hint as to who is is. He wrote you 5 part series of articles on bodybuilding.com.

He is not even Nasser. He is justa drug dealer.

mwbbuilder · « **Reply #344 on:** August 10, 2009, 09:59:56 AM »

Quote from: kyomu on August 10, 2009, 08:16:58 AM

He is not even Nasser. He is justa drug dealer.

It is Nassar. "gh15" knows every little nobody on getbig but doesn't know who wrote Nassar's articles series for bodybuilding.com? yeah right.

And Dennis James would not be taking the time to post after his win on Saturday. That is for sure.

Nasty Nate · « **Reply #345 on:** August 10, 2009, 11:39:18 AM »

Quote from: mwbbuilder on August 10, 2009, 09:59:56 AM

It is Nassar. "gh15" knows every little nobody on getbig but doesn't know who wrote Nassar's articles series for bodybuilding.com? yeah right.

And Dennis James would not be taking the time to post after his win on Saturday. That is for sure.

Yes he would. He hasn't posted all week and the show's over so he's posting now.

mwbbuilder · « **Reply #346 on:** August 10, 2009, 01:12:33 PM »

Quote from: Majeeb-Durkah on August 10, 2009, 11:39:18 AM

Yes he would. He hasn't posted all week and the show's over so he's posting now.

You do not know how a champion thinks. James would not jump on this board right after a contest he won. Nassar has nothing to do but drum up business.

Nasty Nate · « **Reply #347 on:** August 10, 2009, 01:15:56 PM »

Quote from: mwbbuilder on August 10, 2009, 01:12:33 PM

You do not know how a champion thinks. James would not jump on this board right after a contest he won. Nassar has nothing to do but drum up business.

Of course he would. He'd want to see what getbig thinks of how he looked etc... all bber's always go on the boards to check this stuff out.

mwbbuilder · « **Reply #348 on:** August 10, 2009, 01:31:14 PM »

Quote from: Majeeb-Durkah on August 10, 2009, 01:15:56 PM

Of course he would. He'd want to see what getbig thinks of how he looked etc... all bber's always go on the boards to check this stuff out.

You do have a point. I will give you that. However, I still believe it is Nassar because gh15 is such a bitter person. He knows the details of every little nobody on getbig but "can't remember" the person who wrote the Nassar interviews. Too obvious. I bet every person on the board can tell you who the person "with the boxing gloves" is.

gh15 · « **Reply #349 on:** August 11, 2009, 03:13:27 AM »

Quote from: mwbbuilder on August 10, 2009, 01:31:14 PM

You do have a point. I will give you that. However, I still believe it is Nassar because gh15 is such a bitter person. He knows the details of every little nobody on getbig but "can't remember" the person who wrote the Nassar interviews. Too obvious. I bet every person on the board can tell you who the person "with the boxing gloves" is.

bitter person ? ,,not quite ,,i just give out the truth about what all of you know is the truth,,
i belive ethat when you meet girl you need to tell her look i use hormone testosterone thats why i wanna fuck you 5 times a night and thats why i have big muscles with lower bodyfat,,
then some majority of fools come to the girl and say i was born this way i work hard in gym and lie to her face,,

thats the whole problem of this industry,, if more truth been told lot more of you would be happily married,,

the worst thing is to lie about something and then for th eperson to find out that lie ,,the problem is not the hormone the problem in bodybuilding is the lies!!

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