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The nation's largest federation of labor organizations has promised to directly engage with boisterous conservative protesters at Democratic town halls during the August recess.

In a memo sent out on Thursday, AFL-CIO President John Sweeney outlined the blueprint for how the union conglomerate would step up recess activities on health care reform and other topics pertinent to the labor community. The document makes clear that Obama allies view the town hall forums as ground zero of the health care debate. It also uses the specter of the infamous 2000 recount "Brooks Brothers" protest to rally its members to the administration's side.

"The principal battleground in the campaign will be town hall meetings and other gatherings with members of Congress in their home districts," reads the memo. "We want your help to organize major union participation to counter the right-wing "Tea-Party Patriots" who will try to disrupt those meetings, as they've been trying to do to meetings for the last month. ...

(Remember the hooligans - many of them Republican Congressional staff - who harassed Florida vote counters in 2000? We can't let that happen again!)."

A showdown between unions and grassroots conservative organizations could make for an August full of fireworks, with even more dysfunctional town hall meetings. The AFL-CIO is planning to target 50 "high priority districts," in addition to organizing telephone town hall gatherings.

But while the union conglomerate seems poised to flex its political muscle on Obama's behalf, it may find some friction on the policy front. Detailed in Sweeney's memo are certain legislative priorities that are clearly at odds with what seems likely to be produced in the Senate Finance Committee's compromise bill.

Sweeney describes it as a "requirement that ALL employers 'pay or play,'" that the final bill have "a robust public health insurance plan to compete with private insurers and drive down health costs," and that the legislation contain "relief for company/union funds providing pre-Medicare retiree coverage, and no taxation of health benefits!"

The AFL-CIO also promises to "Redouble our efforts on Capitol Hill against taxation of benefits OF ANY KIND, for including ALL businesses in the requirement to provide coverage, and for a robust public health insurance plan option."

According to reports on Thursday, the Senate Finance Committee is considering compromise legislation that will contain no public option for insurance and would tax health-care benefits of the most generous plans.

UPDATE: AFL-CIO Secretary Treasurer Richard Trumka sends out a scathing statement about the town halls, hitting on Sweeney's themes and calling the events corporate funded.

Every American has the inalienable right to participate in our democratic process. Our politics is passionate, heartfelt and often loud -- as was the founding of our nation. But that is not what the corporate-funded mobs are engaging in when they show up to disrupt town halls held by members of Congress.
Major health care reform is closer than ever to passage and it is no secret that special interests want to weaken or block it. These mobs are not there to participate. As their own strategy memo states, they have been sent by their corporate and lobbyist bankrollers to disrupt, heckle and block meaningful debate. This is a desperation move, meant to slow the momentum for change.

Mob rule is not democracy. People have a democratic right to express themselves and our elected leaders have a right to hear from their constituents -- not organized thugs whose sole purpose is to shut down the conversation and attempt to scare our leaders into inaction

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Re: Obama Calls Out the Union Thugs to Directly Engage Protesters!
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2009, 04:52:13 AM »
And everyone says I dont know what I'm talking about. 

This entire fiasco is going to get very ugly very fast. 

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Re: Obama Calls Out the Union Thugs to Directly Engage Protesters!
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2009, 05:25:11 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2009, 05:29:55 AM »
James, where does it say that Obama is asking for help?

Another thing... What is liberal fascism?
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Re: Obama Calls Out the Union Thugs to Directly Engage Protesters!
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2009, 05:30:57 AM »
James, where does it say that Obama is asking for help?

Another thing... What is liberal fascism?

Read Jonah Goldberg's Book.

He explains it in great detail.   

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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2009, 05:33:10 AM »
Read Jonah Goldberg's Book.

He explains it in great detail.   

I'm not interested in Goldberg's definition.

I'm interested in how James defines it.
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2009, 05:37:40 AM »
I'm not interested in Goldberg's definition.

I'm interested in how James defines it.

There are so many examples lately Hedge its not even funny. 

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2009, 05:56:53 AM »
There are so many examples lately Hedge its not even funny. 


Like what?
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2009, 06:05:32 AM »

Like what?

First is mind control of the youth and telling everyone what to believe. 

For example - if you are against gay marriage - you hate gays and are homophobic.

If you are against affirmative action - you are racist and hate minorities.

If you are against illegal immigration you are xenophobic and hate brown people.

If you are religious - you are a nut. 

Second what comes to mind are hate crimes laws.

Third, without a doubt is the nanny state mentality of liberals who want to dictate how we live in every area of our lives whether it be toilet bowls, light bulbs, green nonsense, etc.  The Cap & Trade bill is perfect example of this. 

There are so many others I will get to this later. 

The left accuses the right of what itself is guilty of.

Other than abortion and gay marriage, the left is far more totalitarian and tyrannical than the right. 

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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2009, 07:12:38 AM »
Mind control of youth. That's rich.  ::)

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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2009, 07:17:53 AM »
Mind control of youth. That's rich.  ::)

More examples: 

If you support the second amendment you are a redneck nut. 

If you dont support the govt funding of the NEA - you hate art.

If you are against welfare payments to able bodied people  - you hate poor people.

And on and on and on. 

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Re: Obama Calls Out the Union Thugs to Directly Engage Protesters!
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2009, 07:32:02 AM »
Union Thugs at work again !


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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2009, 07:35:41 AM »
Union Thugs at work again !



Wow just wow.

The left wing thug machine is out in force.  Notice how things only get violent when union thugs show up?  Then they blame granny for the mess because she dare voice her opinion at the elected rep??

Unreal.  I seriously hope one of these overpaid underworked goons gets in my face just once. 

Unions are a farce and need to be disbanded as a criminal enterprise.  SEIU is a perfect example of where RICO needs to be enforced.   

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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2009, 08:54:14 AM »
First is mind control of the youth and telling everyone what to believe. 

For example - if you are against gay marriage - you hate gays and are homophobic.

If you are against affirmative action - you are racist and hate minorities.

If you are against illegal immigration you are xenophobic and hate brown people.

If you are religious - you are a nut. 

Second what comes to mind are hate crimes laws.

Third, without a doubt is the nanny state mentality of liberals who want to dictate how we live in every area of our lives whether it be toilet bowls, light bulbs, green nonsense, etc.  The Cap & Trade bill is perfect example of this. 

There are so many others I will get to this later. 

The left accuses the right of what itself is guilty of.

Other than abortion and gay marriage, the left is far more totalitarian and tyrannical than the right. 

I see nothing of this as a liberal fascist combination.

It could be considered intolerant of those who are not "politically correct", yes. It might be to some.

But there's nothing "liberal fascist" about this.

Liberalism and Fascism are two totally different ideologies.

Fascism is traditionally considered to be anti-intellectualist, anti-minorities (look at how the gypsies were treated in Italy during WWII) and pro-police state.

Liberalism is everything that Fascism is not.

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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2009, 09:02:37 AM »
The use of the term "liberal" is very different from its classical definition. 

So has the term fascism.   I think Jonah Goldbergs point is that liberals will not allow for any dissent without labeling the person in a way designed to shut them down.

Sort of like what happens when conservatives give speeches at colleges etc. 

BTW - liberals are the least tolerant people IMHO. 

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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2009, 10:11:18 AM »
The use of the term "liberal" is very different from its classical definition. 

So has the term fascism.   I think Jonah Goldbergs point is that liberals will not allow for any dissent without labeling the person in a way designed to shut them down.

Sort of like what happens when conservatives give speeches at colleges etc. 

BTW - liberals are the least tolerant people IMHO. 

So basically it's a made up term with buzz words that you like to sh*tcan around whenever you can?
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2009, 11:09:28 AM »
So basically it's a made up term with buzz words that you like to sh*tcan around whenever you can?

Talk to Johnah Goldberg.  He wrote the book, not me.

By the way, your union thug buddies are real tough beating up old people.  Lazy punks.   

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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2009, 05:47:11 AM »
Talk to Johnah Goldberg.  He wrote the book, not me.

By the way, your union thug buddies are real tough beating up old people.  Lazy punks.   
This might give you some cognitive dissonance.  WalMart supports Obama's plan.

Now I know you dislike anything the government does, especially when it inures to the benefit of the poor or middle class, but unions give a voice to those types of people.

They don't hire thugs and legbreakers like big insurance does...harkens back to the union busters....remember those?

I see unions as counteracting the active disinformation campaign by big insurance and the republican party. 

I mean just look at the bullshit that meathead Sarah Palin wrote--'death panel'....I see she quoted herself.

If it weren't for lies and intimidation tactics, the republican party would have no health insurance strategy.

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Re: Obama Calls Out the Union Thugs to Directly Engage Protesters!
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2009, 05:55:16 AM »
No, 33336.  That wasn't the Union thugs acting badly, that was the police behaving badly.   ;D

Seriously though, the union is full of morons so it doesn't surprise they would do this kind of stuff.  They counter people arguing their point about politics with violence.  If the unions didn't get all their handouts they would support a different party.
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Re: Obama Calls Out the Union Thugs to Directly Engage Protesters!
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2009, 06:23:33 AM »
Union fags ganging up on people.I saw one union "women" slam a camera in someones face.Eventually one of these union queers will get stomped to death then Obama will say its the rights fault.

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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2009, 06:25:54 AM »
Union fags ganging up on people.I saw one union "women" slam a camera in someones face.Eventually one of these union queers will get stomped to death then Obama will say its the rights fault.
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2009, 06:31:13 AM »
Good point!

Unions, especially in NY, are directly responsible for insane building and construction costs, which in turn leads to higher rents, costs and inflation.

Unions have one role - get paid more for doing less.

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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2009, 06:38:25 AM »
Unions, especially in NY, are directly responsible for insane building and construction costs, which in turn leads to higher rents, costs and inflation.

Unions have one role - get paid more for doing less.

Exactly.  Paying a livable wage is too much!

These fucking union maggots should work for food.  Even that's too good for the privilege of working!

We can't maximize the profits of the capitalist if we don't break unions.

It's really as simple as that.

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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2009, 07:10:10 AM »
Exactly.  Paying a livable wage is too much!

These fucking union maggots should work for food.  Even that's too good for the privilege of working!

We can't maximize the profits of the capitalist if we don't break unions.

It's really as simple as that.

You are paying higher wages, but hurting others.   

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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2009, 07:18:36 AM »
Unions, especially in NY, are directly responsible for insane building and construction costs, which in turn leads to higher rents, costs and inflation.

Unions have one role - get paid more for doing less.
You thinking big business is all innocent is just disgusting.  Why don't we talk about how these unions wouldn't even exist or wouldn't stand a chance at existing IF BUSINESS COMPENSTATED WORKERS FAIRLY.  Business brought the problems that gave power to unions in the first place.  Love to see you deny this so we can see a little more of your true colors.  And what's the first thing business would do without a union threat out there?  You're a fool if you think they wouldn't slowly chop and whittle away at anything resembling fair compensation.  I know unions have their own corruptions but that's irrelevant to the point I'm making.