Mr. Olympia 1996 (Top 6 Placing)

[Sherief Shalaby]

I use to say shit ages ago about Nasser, but that was just more to do with Bobs constantly spamming the board with Nasser threads. I have, for a long time, always said that Nasser was an amazing bb'er and should have won the O in 96,97 and possibly even 1998.

but i remember well that when i made that thread comparing nasser at his best with wolf at his best you commented that you didnt know that nasser was that great in his best years.. note that i have an elephant memory just like the wizard of truth himself

so you were saying shit to bob because he was posting a lot about nasser (who is his personal friend) but you dont say shit to ND or hulcher whom both ass lick ronnie and dorian all the time

[webcake]

but i remember well that when i made that thread comparing nasser at his best with wolf at his best you commented that you didnt know that nasser was that great in his best years.. note that i have an elephant memory just like the wizard of truth himself

so you were saying shit to bob because he was posting a lot about nasser (who is his personal friend) but you dont say shit ND or hulcher whom both ass lick ronnie and dorian all the time

This was quite a while ago, i don't think you were posting as much back then. Bobs was making multiple threads on the G&O about Nasser everyday. Even Ron told him to stop.

As for ND and Hulkster, i can't be bothered arguing with them. They have been arguing about their favourite muscle man in a thong for longer than i have been a member here. 

I'm not sure of everything i said in the Nasser vs Wolf thread, but i remember saying Nasser had better structure than Wolf and would beat him.

[Parker]

I use to say shit ages ago about Nasser, but that was just more to do with Bobs constantly spamming the board with Nasser threads. I have, for a long time, always said that Nasser was an amazing bb'er and should have won the O in 96,97 and possibly even 1998.

Unfortunately it has only been since Jay won, did a modern Mr. O have a sub-standard back...Nasser's back was sub-standard in terms of depth and detail. Width he had in spades...There were just better bodies ahead of him...

[Sherief Shalaby]

This was quite a while ago, i don't think you were posting as much back then. Bobs was making multiple threads on the G&O about Nasser everyday. Even Ron told him to stop.

As for ND and Hulkster, i can't be bothered arguing with them. They have been arguing about their favourite muscle man in a thong for longer than i have been a member here. 

I'm not sure of everything i said in the Nasser vs Wolf thread, but i remember saying Nasser had better structure than Wolf and would beat him.

ok i forgive you

anyway it's nice that you believe that nasser is 3 times uncrowned mr. olympia..

[webcake]

ok i forgive you

anyway it's nice that you believe that nasser is 3 times uncrowned mr. olympia..

I may give you some shit at times, but i stay neutral with any bb'er and judge them on their ohysique, not their race, religion, background or personality.

And i always noticed that Nasser was very respectful on stage and always shook everyones hand even after they announced he was robbed.

[Sherief Shalaby]

Unfortunately it has only been since Jay won, did a modern Mr. O have a sub-standard back...Nasser's back was sub-standard in terms of depth and detail. Width he had in spades...There were just better bodies ahead of him...

yes nasser's back lacked a lot the same way dorian shoulders and arms lacked!!.. so why should we consider the back muscle more important??.. back as a whole is a big body part but still it's not everything.. as you see in this 96 video nasser's quads, hams, chest, abs, arms were all better and bigger than dorian's while dorian only had a better back!!..

[Sherief Shalaby]

I may give you some shit at times, but i stay neutral with any bb'er and judge them on their ohysique, not their race, religion, background or personality.

And i always noticed that Nasser was very respectful on stage and always shook everyones hand even after they announced he was robbed.

man i said i forgave you but stop it.. dont try, whatever you say now wont let me accept you as a member in team nasser

[webcake]

man i said i forgave you but stop it.. dont try, whatever you say now wont let me accept you as a member in team nasser

Damn it.......

[Sherief Shalaby]

dorian was not smart to do the MM beside nasser

[Parker]

yes nasser's back lacked a lot the same way dorian shoulders and arms lacked!!.. so why should we consider the back muscle more important??.. back as a whole is a big body part but still it's not everything.. as you see in this 96 video nasser's quads, hams, chest, abs, arms were all better and bigger than dorian's while dorian only had a better back!!..

The back is a big bodypart, and you can't unseat a reigning Mr. O without one...even Ronnie, who beat himself, allowed his back to decline, where Jay had improved his own (but wasn't enought o beat a prime Ronnie back)...that is the fact. You HAVE to have BACK DETAIL, THICKNESS, and WIDTH in order to be Mr. O, Flex and Phil are basically the only two that could get by with not having a wider back, but have the rest.

[NarcissisticDeity]

give me your dorian's love eye glasses to see things as you do!!.. of course nasser looks bigger than dorian in this particular 95 shot although he is farer to the camera..

as i told you before you will never be neutral until you get dorian's balls from your mind, or at least one ball of them to be semi neutral

Is that the best you can manage? personal attacks are the hallmark of a defeated individual , you can't even begin to tocuh the fact I pointed out that he can't even do the poses correctly nevermind he doesn't look like he outweights Dorian by 20+ pounds

You're treading in Hulkster territory with your desperation you're in good company 

[NarcissisticDeity]

I use to say shit ages ago about Nasser, but that was just more to do with Bobs constantly spamming the board with Nasser threads. I have, for a long time, always said that Nasser was an amazing bb'er and should have won the O in 96,97 and possibly even 1998.

Nasser was an amazing bodybuilder FROM THE FRONT good from the sides and pathetic from the back

Dorian easily trampled him in 96 you can give him 97 and Ronnie murdered him in 98

[Sherief Shalaby]

Is that the best you can manage? personal attacks are the hallmark of a defeated individual , you can't even begin to tocuh the fact I pointed out that he can't even do the poses correctly nevermind he doesn't look like he outweights Dorian by 20+ pounds

You're treading in Hulkster territory with your desperation you're in good company 

i never attack you "personaly".. dorian's ball and so are just jokes for fun..

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes nasser's back lacked a lot the same way dorian shoulders and arms lacked!!.. so why should we consider the back muscle more important??.. back as a whole is a big body part but still it's not everything.. as you see in this 96 video nasser's quads, hams, chest, abs, arms were all better and bigger than dorian's while dorian only had a better back!!..

I don't get your delusion with Yates delts  and arms? Dorian's biceps were never great worse when he tore one but his triceps ( parts of the arms  ) and forearms are very good , ironically you overlook Nasser's pathetic forearms , like Hulkster you cherry pick while glossing over Nasser's flaws

Back is a huge and complex mucle group without one you're fucked , infranspinatus , teres major & minor , lats upper and lower , traps , spinal erectors these are all muscles and when you only have with and traps you're severly lacking

Another mistake you make like the Hulkster is you keep trying to rack up parts , it doesn't work that way it's poses who has the better pose that what counts , and I already said Nasser clearly has the better  front double bicep pose and maybe ( maybe key word ) the ab-thigh , all the other poses Nasser is soundly beaten

Another glarring flaw of Nasser was his conditioning , he was hard from the front and soft from the back sorta like Jay was , his back looked like someone erased it his glutes were never striated he could never get completely hard and dry , please learn how contests are judged before you comit to an opinion otherwise you run the risk of me correcting you which is becoming a habit lately 

[NarcissisticDeity]

i never attack you "personaly".. dorian's ball and so are just jokes for fun..

sure you have you're getting upset and it shows because you can intelligently defend your position , like Hulkster you say ' see ' and that's it

[MethodGNA]

I don't get your delusion with Yates delts  and arms? Dorian's biceps were never great worse when he tore one but his triceps ( parts of the arms  ) and forearms are very good , ironically you overlook Nasser's pathetic forearms , like Hulkster you cherry pick while glossing over Nasser's flaws

Back is a huge and complex mucle group without one you're fucked , infranspinatus , teres major & minor , lats upper and lower , traps , spinal erectors these are all muscles and when you only have with and traps you're severly lacking

Another mistake you make like the Hulkster is you keep trying to rack up parts , it doesn't work that way it's poses who has the better pose that what counts , and I already said Nasser clearly has the better  front double bicep pose and maybe ( maybe key word ) the ab-thigh , all the other poses Nasser is soundly beaten

Another glarring flaw of Nasser was his conditioning , he was hard from the front and soft from the back sorta like Jay was , his back looked like someone erased it his glutes were never striated he could never get completely hard and dry , please learn how contests are judged before you comit to an opinion otherwise you run the risk of me correcting you which is becoming a habit lately 

very logical post.......completely accurate............end of argument.


sherif please go and asphyxiate on the shit-stained posing trunks you have over your face........

[Sherief Shalaby]

I don't get your delusion with Yates delts  and arms? Dorian's biceps were never great worse when he tore one but his triceps ( parts of the arms  ) and forearms are very good , ironically you overlook Nasser's pathetic forearms , like Hulkster you cherry pick while glossing over Nasser's flaws

Back is a huge and complex mucle group without one you're fucked , infranspinatus , teres major & minor , lats upper and lower , traps , spinal erectors these are all muscles and when you only have with and traps you're severly lacking

Another mistake you make like the Hulkster is you keep trying to rack up parts , it doesn't work that way it's poses who has the better pose that what counts , and I already said Nasser clearly has the better  front double bicep pose and maybe ( maybe key word ) the ab-thigh , all the other poses Nasser is soundly beaten

Another glarring flaw of Nasser was his conditioning , he was hard from the front and soft from the back sorta like Jay was , his back looked like someone erased it his glutes were never striated he could never get completely hard and dry , please learn how contests are judged before you comit to an opinion otherwise you run the risk of me correcting you which is becoming a habit lately 

nasser's forearms were not weak,.. just check the below pic. from the same contest.. i agree with you that it's a poses sport and not just body parts but imo nasser was better than dorian in the side chest and the side triceps (i am talking now about mr. olympia 1996 and not in general).. when both are at their best, it is hard to say, dorian triceps itself was better but everything else on nasser was better.. abs and thigh pose must go to nasser because simply nasser's abs and nasser's tights were better!!..

[kyomu]

I still vote for Nasser.

[Sherief Shalaby]

I still vote for Nasser.

you are a good guy and i am sure you can beat milos wife in squats

[Nizar]

sure you have you're getting upset and it shows because you can intelligently defend your position , like Hulkster you say ' see ' and that's it

Its funny how this guy changes tactics and tries to claim it was a joke when the tables are turned on him.
How often has he repeated this tactic? However when someone else jokes about him he melts down faster than an ice cream cone in a desert.  .

Once he takes nassers balls out of his mouth   maybe he'll realize that nasser was always doomed to second / third place even in international competitions. Even when he won once in a blue moon he was never able to repeat the same  the following year. Even in his best years he was unable to win consistently like Dorian /Ronnie have.

I'm sure the whole planet was in on the conspiracy to keep nasser down.

Even after dorian retired nasser was unable to beat Big Ron Coleman. In fact Ronnie scared nasser so badly that nasser started dropping in his placings everytime he competed anywhere for years afterwards.
Total mental annhilation

[NarcissisticDeity]

nasser's forearms were not weak,.. just check the below pic. from the same contest.. i agree with you that it's a poses sport and not just body parts but imo nasser was better than dorian in the side chest and the side triceps (i am talking now about mr. olympia 1996 and not in general).. when both are at their best, it is hard to say, dorian triceps itself was better but everything else on nasser was better.. abs and thigh pose must go to nasser because simply nasser's abs and nasser's tights were better!!..

Nassers forearms SUCK they are developed yes they are lacking in shape , they are lacking in size and in proportion , you have to think like a judge not like a fan-boy 

Side chest in 1996 Dorian is better same as the side triceps , ab-thigh I could see Nasser edging Dorian out in on this particular year but Dorian more than holds his own a close poses

what you must understand that all rounds are physique rounds and all of the criteria is assessed at once so like Coleman , Nasser meets part(s) of it better but Dorian meets all of it better that's how it works

forearms? 

[Tombo]

lol @ the shit the roll onto the stages these days goddamn those guys were fucking crazy looking

[bigbobs]

Nasser can't even do the side poses correctly to begin with either of them

What's the "correct" way of doing the side poses and how is Nasser's way "incorrect?"  Is there a manual that specifies what the "correct" way of doing it is? 

and nice move on your part removing the Shawn from the pic of the side chest , please note Shawn for a textbook side chest shot and look how Nasser can't even get that pose right , which is why in some side shots you'd never be able to tell Nasser outweighs a guy by 50 pounds !

You're right, in that side chest comparison Nasser does not look like he outweighs Shawn by 50 lbs, looks more like he outweighs him by 70 lbs! 

And Nasser often looked bigger than Dorian even when their bodyweight was comparable (ex. in 1997 O their bodyweight was the same but Nasser looked bigger onstage), so how then does Dorian's size compare to lighter bodybuilder's onstage? 

[bigbobs]

The back is a big bodypart, and you can't unseat a reigning Mr. O without one...even Ronnie, who beat himself, allowed his back to decline, where Jay had improved his own (but wasn't enought o beat a prime Ronnie back)...that is the fact. You HAVE to have BACK DETAIL, THICKNESS, and WIDTH in order to be Mr. O, Flex and Phil are basically the only two that could get by with not having a wider back, but have the rest.

Unfortunately it has only been since Jay won, did a modern Mr. O have a sub-standard back...Nasser's back was sub-standard in terms of depth and detail. Width he had in spades...There were just better bodies ahead of him...

LOL so you're saying there is a certain critieria that no matter how much one bodybuilder excels over the other in all other bodyparts and areas, the back is magical in that lacking back detail relative to others will make you lose no matter what?  Then later when Jay's turn came that criteria was no longer valid?

And that the criteria doesn't apply to Flex or Phil?  Sounds like you're making up your own criteria as you go due to your love of Black bodybuilders

[bigbobs]

According to this posting time its 7am or so,yet in reality here in Ireland its 3:15pm

According to ND and Chimps this means you must be a gimmick!   

forgot to mention, another "parameter" is the fact that "Sherief Shalaby" would post yeears ago on Matt C's site too.

It all adds up.  I decided years ago to start posting favourably about Nasser, so I started by making a Sherief Shalaby account on Matt C's website, gathered many, many pictures of a random Arab in Egypt, started posting on getbig as bigbobs, made a facebook account for SS with a few hundred pictures of the anonymous Arab, about a year later registered the SS account on getbig, learned to speak Arabic so I could talk back and fourth in Arabic with Alnassak, KSA_Triceps, etc., mastered two different typing styles, etc.   

Still waiting for Chimps' take on the above since he's so convinced that I'm SS.