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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #50 on: August 10, 2009, 06:36:18 PM »
QFT!

how many times do i have to mention the Yates- Weinberger-manion bum chum club??

whos' on the judging panel- weinberger,
whos the head judge- manion
whos house did yates stay @? weinberger
where do manion and weinberger stay when they visited england? yates' house

corrupt IFBB officials gave Yates 1994 over ray, 1993 over wheeler, 92+1995 over levrone, 1996+ 1997 over nasser.

Yates never had an uncontroversial , clear cut O win- many talk of 1993 but many many ppl had Flex winning that year.

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name one person who had Flex in 93 besides Hulkster I'll be waiting

I already corrected you before... Weinberger judged Yates just ONCE at the NOC he placed him behind Momo  ;) so much for that excuse and so much for discrimination against Arab's need anything else corrected?




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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #51 on: August 10, 2009, 07:10:43 PM »
go back and watch the 1992-1997 olympia tapes and see who is on the judging panels and who the head judge is.


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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #52 on: August 10, 2009, 07:14:21 PM »
QFT!

how many times do i have to mention the Yates- Weinberger-manion bum chum club??

whos' on the judging panel- weinberger,
whos the head judge- manion
whos house did yates stay @? weinberger
where do manion and weinberger stay when they visited england? yates' house

corrupt IFBB officials gave Yates 1994 over ray, 1993 over wheeler, 92+1995 over levrone, 1996+ 1997 over nasser.

Yates never had an uncontroversial , clear cut O win- many talk of 1993 but many many ppl had Flex winning that year.

Holy shit, talk about Captain f*cking delusional!  The irony is that the trolls come out to dispute even Dorian's most dominant victories, while the very men that Dorian competed against, attest to Yates' dominance.  Evidently, the trolls know better than the men that were on the very same stage.  Flex himself would tell you that Dorian crushed everyone in 1993.  Samir Bannout, a former Mr. Olympia proclaimed that Dorian was 1st, second and third, he was so dominant.  But rather than believe the truth, let's all entertain conspiracy theories of phantom politics.  lol  

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #53 on: August 10, 2009, 07:23:46 PM »
they are not conspiracy theories if they are grounded in obvious clear cut fact and truth:
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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #54 on: August 10, 2009, 07:26:06 PM »
hmm..perhaps the fact that all dorian's friends were judges would explain the bias in 1993 where they were going to give dorian a score in the muscularity round without even comparing him to the competition??


that explains the partial judging in that round right there.


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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #55 on: August 10, 2009, 07:27:38 PM »
thats pretty fucking weak...............obvio usly in that photo dorian is exhaling for a second while the two on his flank are both keeping their midsections contracted............th ere are some real slimy tactics used by some of the posters here.

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #56 on: August 10, 2009, 07:28:17 PM »
Holy shit, talk about Captain f*cking delusional!  The irony is that the trolls come out to dispute even Dorian's most dominant victories, while the very men that Dorian competed against, attest to Yates' dominance.  Evidently, the trolls know better than the men that were on the very same stage.  Flex himself would tell you that Dorian crushed everyone in 1993.  Samir Bannout, a former Mr. Olympia proclaimed that Dorian was 1st, second and third, he was so dominant.  But rather than believe the truth, let's all entertain conspiracy theories of phantom politics.  lol  

Flex Wheeler "said" that in a Weider publication.

the truth was told in a GOlds gym conversation with cormier, dillet, kalfani  after the O- it was along the lines of Dorian was given the 93 over me cos Manion+Big Steve want their bumboy to keep winning it now- no way a guy like me can win it now.
this was told by cormier to jon davie.

Fools like Narcotic Dicky believe everything Mcgough and Flex magazine spew forth.
nothing delusional here.............just reality.

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #57 on: August 10, 2009, 07:28:48 PM »
Nasser can fit 4 testicles in his mouth

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #58 on: August 10, 2009, 07:29:07 PM »
hmm..perhaps the fact that all dorian's friends were judges would explain the bias in 1993 where they were going to give dorian a score in the muscularity round without even comparing him to the competition??


that explains the partial judging in that round right there.


No, it is testimony to the fact that Dorian was so far above everyone else that it was plain to see.  Well, to those that aren't legally blind, unlike yourself.  

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #59 on: August 10, 2009, 07:30:18 PM »
Flex "said" that in a Weider publication.

the truth was told in a GOlds gym conversation with cormier, dillet, kalfani  after the O- it was along the lines of Dorian was given the 93 over me cos Manion+Big Steve want their bumboy to keep winning it now- no way a guy like me can win it now.
this was told by cormier to jon davie.

Fools like Narcotic Dicky believe everything Mcgough and Flex spew forth.
nothing delusional here.............just reality.

I imagine the Gold's conspiracy conversation involved some Ninjas also?  Flex never won because he was a lazy pussy, bottom line. 

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #60 on: August 10, 2009, 07:30:58 PM »
Dorians penis was so far up Manion and Wienberger's anuses it ensured his 6 O titles

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #61 on: August 10, 2009, 07:32:33 PM »
Dorians penis was so far up Manion and Wienberger's anuses it ensured his 6 O titles

I'm not one for keeping track of where other men's penises frequent, so I'll just take your word for it, as you're obviously the expert.

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #62 on: August 10, 2009, 07:47:53 PM »
thats pretty fucking weak...............obvio usly in that photo dorian is exhaling for a second while the two on his flank are both keeping their midsections contracted............th ere are some real slimy tactics used by some of the posters here.

hahahaa


what a pathetic crock.


you do realize that pretty much every relaxed round shot of dorian standing next to his competitors has the same result: him getting owned.

its common as the sun rising.

are you doing to argue all these shots were taking at the precise second dorian was exhaling too? LOL

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #63 on: August 10, 2009, 07:50:42 PM »
hahahaa


what a pathetic crock.


you do realize that pretty much every relaxed round shot of dorian standing next to his competitors has the same result: him getting owned.

its common as the sun rising.

are you doing to argue all these shots were taking at the precise second dorian was exhaling too? LOL

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You win, Huckster, as we all know that an entire contest is won or lost on the basis of a solitary relaxed pose.  Can't argue with that logic.  Kudos to you sir.

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #64 on: August 10, 2009, 07:51:25 PM »
No, it is testimony to the fact that Dorian was so far above everyone else that it was plain to see.  Well, to those that aren't legally blind, unlike yourself.  

 - "Team Huckster, Beyond Retarded"


your not getting it. as usual.. :-\

it doesn't matter if we are comparing a prime time ronnie to Kamali at his worst, the point is that if you are prepared to score a competitor without comparing him to his competitors, you are being partial/biased by definition. thats not how proper, fair and impartial judging is conducted. period.


the eventual result has nothing to do with this.
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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #65 on: August 10, 2009, 07:55:07 PM »
You win, Huckster, as we all know that an entire contest is won or lost on the basis of a solitary relaxed pose.  Can't argue with that logic.  Kudos to you sir.

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no, it isn't.

but when you factor in that pose, with the horrid double bi shot, the smooth lat spreads, the weak quads in the ab shot etc etc, and then realize that on paper yates was given perfect scores most of the time, you begin to see just how bad the judging truly was back then..

but I guess it takes some brains to do this. people with a superficial knowledge of the sport (eg. ND and yourself) miss this entirely.

you just look at the scorecard and say "oh, dorian is perfect, he dominates' without actually being critical of what was really up there on stage and how that was translated to the scores themselves.

thats what the nuthuggers will never understand..

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #66 on: August 10, 2009, 07:58:03 PM »
Not bad, but you don't get the vibe of the thread - I thought we could make it a bit different than the usual thing. Like you countering with a pic of Nasser having dinner with a nice chick vs Dorian serving drinks with a black eye or something like that ;D


ok dont be upset ;D

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #67 on: August 10, 2009, 07:59:47 PM »
;D;D

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #68 on: August 10, 2009, 08:00:41 PM »
If Dorian's buddies were the judges, and Nasser is at least 3x Olympia, then what about all the guys that placed ahead of Nasser that were not named Yates?

1997 San Jose Pro Invitational, 2nd
1998 Arnold Classic, 2nd
1998 Grand Prix Finland, 3rd
1998 Grand Prix Germany, 3rd
1998 Mr. Olympia, 3rd
1999 Arnold Classic, 1st
1999 Grand Prix England, 6th
1999 Mr. Olympia, 6th
1999 World Pro Championships, 6th
2000 Mr. Olympia, 5th
2001 Mr. Olympia, 9th
2002 Arnold Classic, 10th
2002 Mr. Olympia, 15th
2004 Night of Champions, 15th
2004 Show of Strength Pro Championship, 14th
2005 Europa Supershow, 14th

Here is the contest results of Nasser after Yates retired. Besides 1 Arnold Classic he was smoked by plenty of other guys. So instead of Dorian vs nasser it should be "all the guys that beat him vs him." If his prime was from 97 - 99...

Here are his results in '97 excluding the Olympia meeting with Yates. it's not like Nasser isn't getting beat by others.

1997 Arnold Classic, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Czech Republic, 3rd
1997 Grand Prix England, 3rd
1997 Grand Prix Finland, 4th
1997 Grand Prix Germany, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Hungary, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Russia, 3rd
1997 Grand Prix Spain, 2nd

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #69 on: August 10, 2009, 08:03:12 PM »
Actualy. He is No2 in the bbing history for me(No1 is Ronnie paco..of course)

fixed for fun ;D

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #70 on: August 10, 2009, 08:05:41 PM »
fixed for fun ;D

Do actually wear the used thongs you get from nasser?  Do you display them somewhere?  What does your family think of your dabblings into fetishes as weird as this?

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #71 on: August 10, 2009, 08:22:17 PM »
Do actually wear the used thongs you get from nasser?  Do you display them somewhere?  What does your family think of your dabblings into fetishes as weird as this?

shoebox under his bed.............remember, he has to hide who he is, because he would be ostracized and possibly excommunicated if his hardliner Muslim parents found out.................you see, if you are a muslim man, and you produce a homosexual son........it is believed that you only get to rape 35 prepubescent little  girls when you die, instead of the 70 prepubescent little virgins that most pedophiles, er, i mean muslims believe "allah" will grant them upon theri death.

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #72 on: August 10, 2009, 09:02:28 PM »
no, it isn't.

but when you factor in that pose, with the horrid double bi shot, the smooth lat spreads, the weak quads in the ab shot etc etc, and then realize that on paper yates was given perfect scores most of the time, you begin to see just how bad the judging truly was back then..

but I guess it takes some brains to do this. people with a superficial knowledge of the sport (eg. ND and yourself) miss this entirely.

you just look at the scorecard and say "oh, dorian is perfect, he dominates' without actually being critical of what was really up there on stage and how that was translated to the scores themselves.

thats what the nuthuggers will never understand..



The bottom line was and still is, that Yates destroyed all of your heroes and has 6 Sandows to show for it.  You've proven yourself to be the biggest pussy on this entire forum.  The moment a thread is created that mentions Dorian's name, you start fapping at the prospect of trolling.  You don't have the will power to keep your troll ass out of a Yate's thread.  You are weak and Dorian owns your mind. 

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #73 on: August 10, 2009, 10:12:40 PM »
shoebox under his bed.............remember, he has to hide who he is, because he would be ostracized and possibly excommunicated if his hardliner Muslim parents found out.................you see, if you are a muslim man, and you produce a homosexual son........it is believed that you only get to rape 35 prepubescent little  girls when you die, instead of the 70 prepubescent little virgins that most pedophiles, er, i mean muslims believe "allah" will grant them upon theri death.

 ;) ;) ;)

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Re: Dorian vs Nasser
« Reply #74 on: August 10, 2009, 10:44:17 PM »
If Dorian's buddies were the judges, and Nasser is at least 3x Olympia, then what about all the guys that placed ahead of Nasser that were not named Yates?

1997 San Jose Pro Invitational, 2nd
1998 Arnold Classic, 2nd
1998 Grand Prix Finland, 3rd
1998 Grand Prix Germany, 3rd
1998 Mr. Olympia, 3rd
1999 Arnold Classic, 1st
1999 Grand Prix England, 6th
1999 Mr. Olympia, 6th
1999 World Pro Championships, 6th
2000 Mr. Olympia, 5th
2001 Mr. Olympia, 9th
2002 Arnold Classic, 10th
2002 Mr. Olympia, 15th
2004 Night of Champions, 15th
2004 Show of Strength Pro Championship, 14th
2005 Europa Supershow, 14th

Here is the contest results of Nasser after Yates retired. Besides 1 Arnold Classic he was smoked by plenty of other guys. So instead of Dorian vs nasser it should be "all the guys that beat him vs him." If his prime was from 97 - 99...

Here are his results in '97 excluding the Olympia meeting with Yates. it's not like Nasser isn't getting beat by others.

1997 Arnold Classic, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Czech Republic, 3rd
1997 Grand Prix England, 3rd
1997 Grand Prix Finland, 4th
1997 Grand Prix Germany, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Hungary, 2nd
1997 Grand Prix Russia, 3rd
1997 Grand Prix Spain, 2nd


I pointed this out earlier as well. As usual their attention is on attacking dorian Yates not on common sense. What happened after yates retired? Did Weinberger start favoring Ronnie after that?  ::). Lets not forget the infamous racism excuse - even back in germany and europe where nasser failed to win more than once even in his best years. Excuses galore :D

The fact is that nasser was a lazy competitor with no staying power ( in more ways than one). All the women nasser preys on can attest to that ;D Nasser has no one to blame but himself. He now surrounds himself with a handful of lackeys to discredit the accomplishments of others. Disgraceful excuse for a human being. :-\