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Who is more Loony: Birthers or DEATH Panelers?
« on: August 10, 2009, 06:38:38 PM »
Its not a coincidence that Republicans are so easily fooled and manipulated into lending credence to false and nonsensical notions of blatant Tom-Foolery.

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Re: Who is more Loony: Birthers or DEATH Panelers?
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2009, 07:17:25 PM »
here is the problem.

when a republican looks you in the eye and says "XYZ" about the healthcare bill, and it turns out to be drastically overblown drama to scare you away from the bill,

you often see them as uncredible on anything else they say about the bill.  I read on free republican something about how ACORN was awarded something in the bill - turns out that was an outright lie.  So I don't want to listen to that particular source on the bill - even on their valid points.

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Re: Who is more Loony: Birthers or DEATH Panelers?
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2009, 10:32:39 AM »
Yes,there is none of that on the left.We never hear things like Bush constructed 9-11 for oil.We never see crazy people on the left blame others for things.Like Joe Lieberman never blamed Marylin Manson for the columbine killings.We never see people say Palins baby isnt really hers.Your right,its just those nuts on the right.

In fact,whats even funnier is when you fools on the left actually believe that Obama NEVER heard any of Rev Wrights rantings.20 years of Sundays but NEVER heard it once.Yeah,you guys are really sane.

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Re: Who is more Loony: Birthers or DEATH Panelers?
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2009, 10:44:19 AM »
Yes,there is none of that on the left.We never hear things like Bush constructed 9-11 for oil.We never see crazy people on the left blame others for things.Like Joe Lieberman never blamed Marylin Manson for the columbine killings.We never see people say Palins baby isnt really hers.Your right,its just those nuts on the right.

In fact,whats even funnier is when you fools on the left actually believe that Obama NEVER heard any of Rev Wrights rantings.20 years of Sundays but NEVER heard it once.Yeah,you guys are really sane.
plenty on the right also believed there was a conspiracy behind 9/11  A good amount of the libertarian crowd too.  You can't just pin that down on the leftwing.  There's a long history of confirmed false flags committed by governments or rogue elements in governments, even here in America.  So at least there's a strong basis for those suspicions.  Some of the nutty shit I've been hearing on the right is funny as hell.  Like Obama having hundreds of SS numbers lol...  Thinking he's not born here when even republicans have absolutely confirmed the records of his birth here.  There's not history to justify these loony toons worries...

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Re: Who is more Loony: Birthers or DEATH Panelers?
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2009, 11:12:31 AM »
plenty on the right also believed there was a conspiracy behind 9/11  A good amount of the libertarian crowd too.  You can't just pin that down on the leftwing.  There's a long history of confirmed false flags committed by governments or rogue elements in governments, even here in America.  So at least there's a strong basis for those suspicions.  Some of the nutty shit I've been hearing on the right is funny as hell.  Like Obama having hundreds of SS numbers lol...  Thinking he's not born here when even republicans have absolutely confirmed the records of his birth here.  There's not history to justify these loony toons worries...

I agree that stuff is nuts.However,the idea that the government could pull of 9-11 is the silliest thing Ive ever heard.These fools cant keep Barry Bonds grand jury testimony a secret and we think hundreads of government employees could keep something like 9-11 a secret.I dont think the government can fix the roads but we think they can keep 9-11 a secret.

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Re: Who is more Loony: Birthers or DEATH Panelers?
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2009, 12:36:17 PM »
I agree that stuff is nuts.However,the idea that the government could pull of 9-11 is the silliest thing Ive ever heard.These fools cant keep Barry Bonds grand jury testimony a secret and we think hundreads of government employees could keep something like 9-11 a secret.I dont think the government can fix the roads but we think they can keep 9-11 a secret.


LOL @ the only defense for all the 911 fishiness being "no way we'd keep it a secret".

simple minds, i spose.

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Re: Who is more Loony: Birthers or DEATH Panelers?
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2009, 01:01:34 PM »

LOL @ the only defense for all the 911 fishiness being "no way we'd keep it a secret".

simple minds, i spose.

Again,HUNDREADS of people keeping that silent,but they cant keep the Valarie Plain thing a secret.Yeah right.Our fucking government cant do cars for clunkers right,but can kill 3,000 Americans and no one lets out the secret.

Talk about a simple minded idiot.Once again I will ask you this.NAME ONE PROGRAM THE GOVERNMENT HAS EVER RUN CORRECTLY!!!Yet simpletons like you feel that the same group that has bankrupted social security,medicare,medicaide,the post office and everything else they touch,could pull off 9-11.Wow,what a dick.Then again,your the same simple minded dumb ass that thinks the baby wasnt Palins.So your as easily led by the nose as those Obama supporters who believe he didnt hear ANY of Wrights racist rants.

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Re: Who is more Loony: Birthers or DEATH Panelers?
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2009, 01:05:34 PM »
I agree that stuff is nuts.However,the idea that the government could pull of 9-11 is the silliest thing Ive ever heard.These fools cant keep Barry Bonds grand jury testimony a secret and we think hundreads of government employees could keep something like 9-11 a secret.I dont think the government can fix the roads but we think they can keep 9-11 a secret.
but my point is that wasn't a left only conspiracy theory.  Plenty on the right followed it too.  especially the far right and libertarians so you can't really pull out 9/11 as lib only CT.  I'm sure we're not really trying to get into debating 9/11 in this thread so I'll just leave it at that.

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Re: Who is more Loony: Birthers or DEATH Panelers?
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2009, 01:08:40 PM »
Billy believes 911 CTers are left-wing.

He could spend 5 minutes looking at the THOUSANDS of military, police, EMS, and scientific personnell of all parties, who have questioned the official story of the events.  Reagan's own father of Star Wars said it's just silly how the official story is written.

instead, he'd rather insult the first lady's looks and cry about racism.  Simple minds.

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Re: Who is more Loony: Birthers or DEATH Panelers?
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2009, 01:11:45 PM »
Billy believes 911 CTers are left-wing.

He could spend 5 minutes looking at the THOUSANDS of military, police, EMS, and scientific personnell of all parties, who have questioned the official story of the events.  Reagan's own father of Star Wars said it's just silly how the official story is written.

instead, he'd rather insult the first lady's looks and cry about racism.  Simple minds.

I dont care if its left or right.Our retarded,incompetant government cant pull off a caper like that.They cant even keep Clinton blowing loads on a skank a secret.

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Re: Who is more Loony: Birthers or DEATH Panelers?
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2009, 01:18:17 PM »
Its not a coincidence that Republicans are so easily fooled and manipulated into lending credence to false and nonsensical notions of blatant Tom-Foolery.

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By Hans Nichols

April 29 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama said his grandmother’s hip-replacement surgery during the final weeks of her life made him wonder whether expensive procedures for the terminally ill reflect a “sustainable model” for health care.

The president’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, had a hip replaced after she was diagnosed with cancer, Obama said in an interview with the New York Times magazine that was published today. Dunham, who lived in Honolulu, died at the age of 86 on Nov. 2, 2008, two days before her grandson’s election victory.

“I don’t know how much that hip replacement cost,” Obama said in the interview. “I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she’s my grandmother.”

Obama said “you just get into some very difficult moral issues” when considering whether “to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill. “That’s where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues,” he said in the April 14 interview. “The chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health- care bill out here.”


Obama promised during his presidential campaign that a health-care overhaul would be a top priority, and he said at a Missouri town hall meeting today that he hopes Congress will pass health-care legislation this year.

The issue has been divisive, and finding an answer that will keep costs down while extending coverage to the estimated 46 million Americans without health insurance has eluded past presidents.

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Obama also said his economic advisers aren’t constrained by ideology or connections to former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin. “What I’ve been constantly searching for is a ruthless pragmatism when it comes to economic policy,” he said, in the interview.

Obama also pointed to Canada as an example of a country that has effectively regulated commercial and investment banking without requiring legal separation of those activities.

“When it comes to something like investment banking versus commercial banking, the experience in a country like Canada would indicate that good, strong regulation that focuses less on the legal form of the institution and more on the functions that they’re carrying out is probably the right approach to take,” he said.

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I think it is pretty clear that bean counters are going to ration care in light of this, and in light of what i showed you the other day from Emaunels' brother, the architect of this bill. 

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Re: Who is more Loony: Birthers or DEATH Panelers?
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2009, 01:33:26 PM »
I dont care if its left or right.Our retarded,incompetant government cant pull off a caper like that.They cant even keep Clinton blowing loads on a skank a secret.

weird that we're #1 in the world at most thing, with the best military, 800 bases, our fingers in everything, and we essentially call the shots on plant earth... yet we're so incompetent.


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Re: Who is more Loony: Birthers or DEATH Panelers?
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2009, 01:36:27 PM »
Again,HUNDREADS of people keeping that silent,but they cant keep the Valarie Plain thing a secret.Yeah right.Our fucking government cant do cars for clunkers right,but can kill 3,000 Americans and no one lets out the secret.

Talk about a simple minded idiot.Once again I will ask you this.NAME ONE PROGRAM THE GOVERNMENT HAS EVER RUN CORRECTLY!!!Yet simpletons like you feel that the same group that has bankrupted social security,medicare,medicaide,the post office and everything else they touch,could pull off 9-11.Wow,what a dick.Then again,your the same simple minded dumb ass that thinks the baby wasnt Palins.So your as easily led by the nose as those Obama supporters who believe he didnt hear ANY of Wrights racist rants.
Social security is fine until 2042.  Then an adjustment MIGHT be needed?  FDIC is working.  Libraries are still working.  The national parks that Bush didn't whore out to big lumber are working.  College loans is working.  The GI Bill is working.  The US treasury mint is working.  Rural electrification worked.  NASA works

There isn't one gov. program I can point to....there're hundreds.

See government is not like private business in the sense that the 'corporate board' of government is populated by people like you who want government destroyed so that you can keep more of your tax dollars...except for the ones that corporate fascists funnel into their own pockets through gravy gov. contracts and/or outright tax exemption but that's another story.  Government is not private business b/c of competing interests of the constituency.  Usually one trumps another at some time or other.  It's difficult to have resolute action in that case.

We put anti-government ideologues in charge of government and we wonder why it performs the way it does in some cases?

The greatest Irony was failed B-actor Ronald Reagan, as president of the government, telling us government is the problem.

What the hell was that moron thinking?

Jack Welch should have told GE shareholders that if dividends are down then GE is the problem.


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Re: Who is more Loony: Birthers or DEATH Panelers?
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2009, 01:57:30 PM »
Social security is fine until 2042.  Then an adjustment MIGHT be needed?  FDIC is working.  Libraries are still working.  The national parks that Bush didn't whore out to big lumber are working.  College loans is working.  The GI Bill is working.  The US treasury mint is working.  Rural electrification worked.  NASA works

There isn't one gov. program I can point to....there're hundreds.

See government is not like private business in the sense that the 'corporate board' of government is populated by people like you who want government destroyed so that you can keep more of your tax dollars...except for the ones that corporate fascists funnel into their own pockets through gravy gov. contracts and/or outright tax exemption but that's another story.  Government is not private business b/c of competing interests of the constituency.  Usually one trumps another at some time or other.  It's difficult to have resolute action in that case.

We put anti-government ideologues in charge of government and we wonder why it performs the way it does in some cases?

The greatest Irony was failed B-actor Ronald Reagan, as president of the government, telling us government is the problem.

What the hell was that moron thinking?

Jack Welch should have told GE shareholders that if dividends are down then GE is the problem.



EVERY single thing you posted in the first paragrapg is idiotic.NONE of those things are working with a shit.Christ college loans arent paid back,the FDIC is on the verge of bankruptsy and was in need of a bailout just a few months ago untill the banks adjusted.Social security is not fine.Your saying its fine untill it goes broke.Is that fine?Would you say your family is doing well if its going to go broke in a few years?Social security was supposed to be funded by money which was NEVER to be touched for any other reason THEY SPENT IT!

Everything you named there NOTHING makes money.They are all run at HUGE losses.THATS NOT doing well.If ANY OTHER enterprise lost money like the things you spoke of it would be out of buisiness INCLUDING LIBRARIES which run at MASSIVE losses every year.These are all enterprises that dont make money.THATS NOT DOING WELL!

Christ the VA hospitals are a disgrace!!!