****watch how fast Obama's poll numbers fall now***

[Hugo Chavez]

Listening to progressive radio this morning.  wow, megameltdown.  they're furious with the president.  Obama organizers and voters were calling in furious.  I was pissed before I tuned in.  Ed Schultz was furious, promised to go on his tv show tonight and "rip the whitehouse"  I suspect there will be a serious backlash against Obama from the left today and in days to follow.  This has nothing to do with the rightwing or republicans so don't pat yourselves on the back; you guys are 10 times more psychopathetic.  Just because the left is bailing on Obama doesn't mean their signing up for your psycho retardation.  They just won't vote or will vote 3rd party which means you'll win, but not at the hands of "being right."


His base is bailing.  I hope those deals were worth it Mr. President.

[BM OUT]

Listening to progressive radio this morning.  wow, megameltdown.  they're furious with the president.  Obama organizers and voters were calling in furious.  I was pissed before I tuned in.  Ed Schultz was furious, promised to go on his tv show tonight and "rip the whitehouse"  I suspect there will be a serious backlash against Obama from the left today and in days to follow.  This has nothing to do with the rightwing or republicans so don't pat yourselves on the back; you guys are 10 times more psychopathetic.  Just because the left is bailing on Obama doesn't mean their signing up for your psycho retardation.  They just won't vote or will vote 3rd party which means you'll win, but not at the hands of "being right."


His base is bailing.  I hope those deals were worth it Mr. President.

Well,Ed Shultz has about 300 viewers so it shouldnt hurt much.

[Straw Man]

Listening to progressive radio this morning.  wow, megameltdown.  they're furious with the president.  Obama organizers and voters were calling in furious.  I was pissed before I tuned in.  Ed Schultz was furious, promised to go on his tv show tonight and "rip the whitehouse"  I suspect there will be a serious backlash against Obama from the left today and in days to follow.  This has nothing to do with the rightwing or republicans so don't pat yourselves on the back; you guys are 10 times more psychopathetic.  Just because the left is bailing on Obama doesn't mean their signing up for your psycho retardation.  They just won't vote or will vote 3rd party which means you'll win, but not at the hands of "being right."


His base is bailing.  I hope those deals were worth it Mr. President.

you're right

his base is not very happy with him

they want him to cut out the bi-partisan bullshit and push through the agenda that got him elected

[Soul Crusher]

Listening to progressive radio this morning.  wow, megameltdown.  they're furious with the president.  Obama organizers and voters were calling in furious.  I was pissed before I tuned in.  Ed Schultz was furious, promised to go on his tv show tonight and "rip the whitehouse"  I suspect there will be a serious backlash against Obama from the left today and in days to follow.  This has nothing to do with the rightwing or republicans so don't pat yourselves on the back; you guys are 10 times more psychopathetic.  Just because the left is bailing on Obama doesn't mean their signing up for your psycho retardation.  They just won't vote or will vote 3rd party which means you'll win, but not at the hands of "being right."


His base is bailing.  I hope those deals were worth it Mr. President.

Welcome to my world in February 2005.  I traveled to Jacksonville in 2004 for the election for a week for GWB and spent day after day at canvassing boards, precincts, etc for that louse.  

Then, right after inaugaration, the first thing jackass tries to push is amnesty for illegals, etc.  I sent my resignation letter to the RNC and will dig it up for you.  

I said all along, GWB's second term was over in Feb. 2005 when he spent all his "capital" on pushing for amnesty for illegals and insulted us all as "vigilantes".  

At that moment I was done with him.    

[Hugo Chavez]

Well,Ed Shultz has about 300 viewers so it shouldnt hurt much.

maybe on his tv show which I too think is poorly formated and hard to watch but he has a large radio audience, probably the largest of all the left leaning shows and the point here is that it's a progressive show with progressive listeners.  They're calling in pissed, he's pissed and other talkers on the left are going to be pissed.  I guarantee it.  This is going to hurt Obama bad with his own base.

[Hugo Chavez]

Democracy Now also turned on Obama the other day.  Nobody wanted to talk about it.  And now with this public option thing, I'm betting they'll hit it harder.

My prediction is that in the next week or so his approval/disapproval rating will cross paths and make an X on the chart.

[tonymctones]

you're right

his base is not very happy with him

they want him to cut out the bi-partisan bullshit and push through the agenda that got him elected

LOL that wont do anything other then piss off the independents that voted for him, he needs to move center and quickly. Its too late for the dem congress members a good number of the will probably lose their seats in 10 but obama still has a chance if he moves center and stops going further and further left.

[Soul Crusher]

Democracy Now also turned on Obama the other day.  Nobody wanted to talk about it.  And now with this public option thing, I'm betting they'll hit it harder.

My prediction is that in the next week or so his approval/disapproval rating will cross paths and make an X on the chart.

He did throw you guys under the bus.  He asked for you to get in our faces and support his program, and after you do that, drops the public option so publicly, which he did today. 

[240 is Back]

Well,Ed Shultz has about 300 viewers so it shouldnt hurt much.

LOL!

[Hugo Chavez]

Welcome to my world in February 2005.  I traveled to Jacksonville in 2004 for the election for a week for GWB and spent day after day at canvassing boards, precincts, etc for that louse.  

Then, right after inaugaration, the first thing jackass tries to push is amnesty for illegals, etc.  I sent my resignation letter to the RNC and will dig it up for you.  

I said all along, GWB's second term was over in Feb. 2005 when he spent all his "capital" on pushing for amnesty for illegals and insulted us all as "vigilantes".  

At that moment I was done with him.    

don't blame me.  It wasn't exactly hard to see the first 4 years were filled with solid doublespeak and epic bullshit lies.  Now I'm not going to vote for Obama with 4 years of that even if it means a republican will get in by default.  You watched or ignored 4 years of Bush retardation and chose to campaign for him?  BAAAAAA  BAAAAAA

[Hugo Chavez]

He did throw you guys under the bus.  He asked for you to get in our faces and support his program, and after you do that, drops the public option so publicly, which he did today. 

that's exactly right.  If he thought his good looks and messiah image would allow him to ride out these slaps in the face so he could appease the industry and republicans then he's got another thing coming. 

[James]

People are now seeing the real Obama, and are starting to realize that he is not the "hope and change" he pretended to be.

[Soul Crusher]

that's exactly right.  If he thought his good looks and messiah image would allow him to ride out these slaps in the face so he could appease the industry and republicans then he's got another thing coming. 

Serious Hugo - he explicity said to "get in your negihbors' face" and go door to door over this and then drops it like that? 

Now you know why we all bailed on GWB when he tried amnesty for illegals.  Many of us defended him over the WOT, and to push amnesty for illegals at the same time was too much to swallow. 

[Mons Venus]

 I traveled to Jacksonville in 2004 for the election for a week for GWB   

                                    DOUCHEBAG !

[Hugo Chavez]

People are now seeing the real Obama, and are starting to realize that he is not the "hope and change" he pretended to be.

Just as long as we're seeing the picture correctly here.  Obama is doing this to himself with his base.  This isn't a victory for the right, it is a failure by Obama.  You're getting a freebee in the next election.

[Soul Crusher]

                                    DOUCHEBAG !

[Hugo Chavez]

Serious Hugo - he explicity said to "get in your negihbors' face" and go door to door over this and then drops it like that? 

Now you know why we all bailed on GWB when he tried amnesty for illegals.  Many of us defended him over the WOT, and to push amnesty for illegals at the same time was too much to swallow. 

yea lol... I heard people calling in that were actually doing that.  Putting their time in on it and that's it, gone.  I knew it would be gone before he said it too.  That story from huffington you posted and the commentary from Democracy Now that I posted painted the picture pretty clearly.  But I think Obama had to make it LOOK like he tried so these weeks have been spent two timing his own voters.  Like I said in another thread, my red flag went up when Rham E. tried to get the leftwing talking heads to shut up on the issue.  Major Red Flag.

[Hugo Chavez]

skull and bones... you know he did that on purpose right...  look at that picture.  guy clearly went out of his way to get the lamest shot ever taken of a candidate.  He did several clearly intentional self-sabotaging things.

[Soul Crusher]

I just cant stand the duplicity and doublespeak.  

Its like Ron Paul, or Kucinich, or some others, I know where I stand with them and what they really believe.  

Even though I may disagree with Kucinich on things, I know exactly what he really thinks and probably could make a deal with a guy like that because i know he is not lying to me.  What ever happened to normal language where someone says something clear and in a way that you know exactly what they mean?  

Bush, Obama, etc you never really know where they are, what they really think, and I think they do it intentionally so we all are infighting with each other while some other shady shit goes down that no one really knows about.  
  

[Hugo Chavez]

I just cant stand the duplicity and doublespeak.  

Its like Ron Paul, or Kucinich, or some others, I know where I stand with them and what they really believe.  

Even though I may disagree with Kucinich on things, I know exactly what he really thinks and probably could make a deal with a guy like that because i know he is not lying to me.  What ever happened to normal language where someone says something clear and in a way that you know exactly what they mean?  

Bush, Obama, etc you never really know where they are, what they really think, and I think they do it intentionally so we all are infighting with each other while some other shady shit goes down that no one really knows about.  
  

It's been my contention for quite some time that we're focused on the wrong villians.  Everyone sits here yelling about corrupt and bad politicians...  Well no fucking shit, they're politicians.  Clearly the honest politician is rare.  We can all agree with that!  So why do we waste our fucking time post after post after post blaming the politician?  They are doing what is in their nature.  We are not likely to ever get 1 of the half a dozen or less honest politicians in the white house.  So what is the logical step?  Clearly if you can't fix the corrupt and bad politicians, we need to fucking target the ones corrupting!!!!  #1 Bankers... Pharmacudicals... Insurance companies... Big agri... on and on... Do we ever go after them?  Hell fucking no.  They might take some heat for a short period of time but we're soon off complaining about the politicians.  That is the worst strategy I've ever heard of.  If this were a war, you cut off the enemy supply routes.  You cut of what enables the enemy.  I'm not talking about killing anyone, I'm talking about keeping the focus solidly on the enablers, the corrupters.  We sit around and tell eachother to fucking write letters to our representitives, the one's who've been corrupted... LOLOL... BRILLIANT... We should not focus on that, we should focus on the media, even if it's just e-mailing leading blogs and holding their feet to the fire on covering it.  The politicians, if they were ever willing to get the message in the first place, will get it even stronger then and the corrupters will have the public eye on them making it much harder to do what they do.

[tonymctones]

Just as long as we're seeing the picture correctly here.  Obama is doing this to himself with his base.  This isn't a victory for the right, it is a failure by Obama.  You're getting a freebee in the next election.

hopefully in 10 at least ppl will be fed up with both and go a little more independent even if the do pick a rep or dem hopefully they are more center then right or left

[Hugo Chavez]

hopefully in 10 at least ppl will be fed up with both and go a little more independent even if the do pick a rep or dem hopefully they are more center then right or left

I hope so, that would be fine by me, but these two parties seem to have a real knack at forcing people into voting for one guy because they're horrified by the other.

I think it's time to realize both parties are fucking sucking and to go third party.

[Soul Crusher]

I hope so, that would be fine by me, but these two parties seem to have a real knack at forcing people into voting for one guy because they're horrified by the other.

I think it's time to realize both parties are fucking sucking and to go third party.

Hugo - I think you will really enjoy Celente's interview I posted. 

[tonymctones]

I hope so, that would be fine by me, but these two parties seem to have a real knack at forcing people into voting for one guy because they're horrified by the other.

I think it's time to realize both parties are fucking sucking and to go third party.

LOL well put

I agree I dont really know if I would agree with alot of ideas thrown out by some 3rd party candidates but shit it cant be much worse then what weve seen in the past and at least they tend to be more center.

[Hugo Chavez]

Hugo - I think you will really enjoy Celente's interview I posted. 

who do you think sticked it.