Canadians visit U.S. to get health care

[headhuntersix]

Oh yeah things are great with Canadian Healthcare right TA...sure thing dude.

http://freep.com/article/20090820/BUSINESS06/908200420/1319/


Hospitals in border cities, including Detroit, are forging lucrative arrangements with Canadian health agencies to provide care not widely available across the border.
Agreements between Detroit hospitals and the Ontario Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care for heart, imaging tests, bariatric and other services provide access to some services not immediately available in the province, said ministry spokesman David Jensen.
The agreements show how a country with a national care system -- a proposal not part of the health care changes under discussion in Congress -- copes with demand for care with U.S. partnerships, rather than building new facilities.
Michael Vujovich, 61, of Windsor was taken to Detroit's Henry Ford Hospital for an angioplasty procedure after he went to a Windsor hospital in April. Vujovich said the U.S. backup doesn't show a gap in Canada's system, but shows how it works.
"I go to the hospital in Windsor and two hours later, I'm done having angioplasty in Detroit," he said. His $38,000 bill was covered by the Ontario health ministry.
Canada eyed in the health care debate
Dany Mercado, a leukemia patient from Kitchener, Ontario, is cancer-free after getting a bone marrow transplant at the Barbara Ann Karmanos Cancer Institute in Detroit.

Told by Canadian doctors in 2007 he couldn't have the procedure there, Mercado's family and doctor appealed to Ontario health officials, who agreed to let him have the transplant in Detroit in January 2008.
The Karmanos Institute is one of several Detroit health facilities that care for Canadians needing services not widely available in Canada.
Canada, for example, has waiting times for bariatric procedures to combat obesity that can stretch to more than five years, according to a June report in the Canadian Journal of Surgery.
As a result, the Ontario Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care in April designated 13 U.S. hospitals, including five in Michigan and one more with a tentative designation, to perform bariatric surgery for Canadians.

[Ex Coelis]

bariatric surgery? haha

those fat fucks can lose weight on their own time

[OzmO]

Yeah, 30-40 members of my family who live in Canada are all dying, sick, etc. because of the canadian health care system. 

I've spoken in detail with them about their health care and no one has any serious complaints.  No system is perfect and those poor blokes pay through the nose in taxes for it.  But it works better this mess down here overall IMO.

I don't trust Obama's plan.  I think in the end he's selling his soul to the medical industry to get this done.

[Bindare_Dundat]

Yeah, 30-40 members of my family who live in Canada are all dying, sick, etc. because of the canadian health care system. 

I've spoken in detail with them about their health care and no one has any serious complaints.  No system is perfect and those poor blokes pay through the nose in taxes for it.  But it works better this mess down here overall IMO.

That's the main issue for me. In a country where the debt is at unbelievable highs and more demands are being placed on the tax payer, where will the money come from when there are no real cuts being purposed anywhere else? As a matter of fact the debt ceiling is being raised yet again.

[James]

[24KT]

Headhunter, ...you don't get it do you? Under universal coverage the patient is still getting treatment, and the health care costs are covered.

It's a good deal for everyone concerned. if there happens to be a temporary shortage of beds, or a shortage of a particular type of specialist, the patient still gets treatment and is still covered under our system regardless of where they are being treated. My father once fell ill on a plane flying from Oklahoma back to Toronto. They had to divert the plane midflight to the nearest airport, where they had ambulances on standby waiting to bring him to the hospital. He stayed in the hospital for a few weeks before he got the green light to fly back home. The costs for his stay & his treatment were completely covered. He was completely covered. Under your current system, the insurance companies would have accepted his money for premiums, but the moment he tried to make a claim, it would have been denied as a pre-existing condition. $80 for one pill is outrageous!

The reason there are usually so many beds available in the US, is because so few people CAN afford to use them. And those with insurance... are usually cut off the moment they go to use it. But guess what, ...all those vacant beds represent fixed overhead costs that are passed on to patients. It's like a plane flight. The tickets are generally more economical if that airlines planes are generally filled. If a plane always has to take off with only one passenger on board, chances are that over a period of time, you're going to see tickets on that flight go from $700 a ticket to $70,000 a ticket. You should be overjoyed when you're able to pick up the overflow from a more efficient system like Canada's. It applies downward pressure to your health care costs.

[Mons Venus]

Oh yeah things are great with Canadian Healthcare right TA...sure thing dude.

http://freep.com/article/20090820/BUSINESS06/908200420/1319/


Hospitals in border cities, including Detroit, are forging lucrative arrangements with Canadian health agencies to provide care not widely available across the border.
Agreements between Detroit hospitals and the Ontario Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care for heart, imaging tests, bariatric and other services provide access to some services not immediately available in the province, said ministry spokesman David Jensen.
The agreements show how a country with a national care system -- a proposal not part of the health care changes under discussion in Congress -- copes with demand for care with U.S. partnerships, rather than building new facilities.
Michael Vujovich, 61, of Windsor was taken to Detroit's Henry Ford Hospital for an angioplasty procedure after he went to a Windsor hospital in April. Vujovich said the U.S. backup doesn't show a gap in Canada's system, but shows how it works.
"I go to the hospital in Windsor and two hours later, I'm done having angioplasty in Detroit," he said. His $38,000 bill was covered by the Ontario health ministry.
Canada eyed in the health care debate
Dany Mercado, a leukemia patient from Kitchener, Ontario, is cancer-free after getting a bone marrow transplant at the Barbara Ann Karmanos Cancer Institute in Detroit.

Told by Canadian doctors in 2007 he couldn't have the procedure there, Mercado's family and doctor appealed to Ontario health officials, who agreed to let him have the transplant in Detroit in January 2008.
The Karmanos Institute is one of several Detroit health facilities that care for Canadians needing services not widely available in Canada.
Canada, for example, has waiting times for bariatric procedures to combat obesity that can stretch to more than five years, according to a June report in the Canadian Journal of Surgery.
As a result, the Ontario Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care in April designated 13 U.S. hospitals, including five in Michigan and one more with a tentative designation, to perform bariatric surgery for Canadians.

How's your FREE government healthcare HH6?