Author Topic: How do the pros are able to have kids? (Read 3876 times)

Meso_z · « **on:** August 22, 2009, 10:00:10 AM »

after all these years of drug use?

I mean quite recently Markus, Victor etc.... how?

i asked the same q to gh15 so we can see whats his take on this too

big L dawg · « **Reply #1 on:** August 22, 2009, 10:01:09 AM »

they have sex...basic birds & bee's stuff..

local hero · « **Reply #2 on:** August 22, 2009, 10:20:22 AM »

i know plenty doormen and top amatures whove been on for decades, and theyve all got a few kids each, a few of them in later life too...

not everyone is effected the same!

4thAD · « **Reply #3 on:** August 22, 2009, 10:52:25 AM »

I have a friend who is getting really close to getting his pro card, and is sterile. Some get lucky, some don't.

tstmaniac · « **Reply #4 on:** August 22, 2009, 11:05:56 AM »

4th, if he's close to gettin his pro card he probably hasn't been off for a long time...was he sterile even when he was off the sauce?

Meso_z · « **Reply #5 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:10:56 PM »

how can anyone see if hes sterile or not?

I mean you take hormonal tests? can you take one when on cycle?

4thAD · « **Reply #6 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:22:19 PM »

Quote from: tstmaniac on August 22, 2009, 11:05:56 AM

4th, if he's close to gettin his pro card he probably hasn't been off for a long time...was he sterile even when he was off the sauce?

Oh yeah, there is no doubt he is sterile on or off. He was tested multiple times, and its a done deal.

Rinc · « **Reply #7 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:39:27 PM »

Quote from: 4thAD on August 22, 2009, 12:22:19 PM

Oh yeah, there is no doubt he is sterile on or off. He was tested multiple times, and its a done deal.

You roll the dice, sometimes you win and sometimes you.....

tstmaniac · « **Reply #8 on:** August 22, 2009, 01:02:39 PM »

That's one side effect that worries me because I'm not ready for kids for about ten years lol...are his natural test levels 0 too?

Nasty Nate · « **Reply #9 on:** August 22, 2009, 01:08:55 PM »

Why have kids? They'd shit in my lambo.

tstmaniac · « **Reply #10 on:** August 22, 2009, 01:15:30 PM »

Gotta keep the family name going bro.

muscle19 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 22, 2009, 04:28:33 PM »

so this guy who is sterile, was he sterile before he started juiceing? i doubt he would know and maybe its from the sauce but like anything, our bodies are made to return to homeostasis after we stop juiceing meaning your natty hormones will eventually return back and i dont believe itll stop completely lol

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #12 on:** August 22, 2009, 09:59:39 PM »

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Q: Do you know anyone who has suffered from the effects of exogenus testosterone usage to the point it is affected their baby making capabilities? I'm already working with an Urologist, and I just wanted different input if you know of anyone who has happened to have been through this.

A:milos sarcev Maaaany bodybuilders have that problem and surely we all know why we have that problem. Our HPTA gets screwed up for some strange, medically unknown reason.

A common practice which I would highly suggest you try is to use Bulgarian Tribestan, and some of the guys have suggested that Biotest's product is worthy as well. Take 3 capsules in the morning on an empty stomach, and 3 more eight hours later. 5 days on, 2 off. Clomid was 50mg/ed. Do this for 8 weeks and took 4 weeks off and then repeat the cycle. At the begining of the second cycle a blood test showed that the Hypothalamus started to produce FSH again, this hormone tells the testes to start working. After you reach normal FSH value it will take approx 60 days before the sperm count starts to rise.

Certainly, this system would not work for everyone. It depends on individuality and where the core problems comes from. Doctors would try to treat both "H" and "T". Normally - to increase your FSH and LH they would (more than likely) put you on METRODIN (generic name - urofollitropin) or PERGONAL (menotropin) with dosage between 75 and 150 IU/day for 7 to 10 days. Followed by one shot of 10000 IU of PROFASI (chorionic gonadotropin), and than 3 more shoots of 5000 IU every 3 days ( 3 to 5 shoots maximum). At the same time I would suggest you to take tribestan or tribex (I guess it works according to a lot of the guys?!). Gonadorelin is also successfully used in Europe (product named KRYPTOCUR) and there are different products here in USA. But, as you are going to see a doctor - let us know what he (or she ??) recommends! BTW, did anyone tell you that having sex would help too?

Bobby · « **Reply #13 on:** August 23, 2009, 02:19:11 PM »

i thought this was a myth

io856 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 23, 2009, 08:48:55 PM »

Quote from: 4thAD on August 22, 2009, 10:52:25 AM

I have a friend who is getting really close to getting his pro card, and is sterile. Some get lucky, some don't.

was he tested for fertility before he hit the juice?

tstmaniac · « **Reply #15 on:** August 24, 2009, 06:39:19 AM »

Quote from: io856 on August 23, 2009, 08:48:55 PM

was he tested for fertility before he hit the juice?

thats what i was thinking..some people just can't have kids even if they didnt touch juice

beard · « **Reply #16 on:** August 24, 2009, 10:38:07 AM »

Quote from: tstmaniac on August 22, 2009, 01:02:39 PM

That's one side effect that worries me because I'm not ready for kids for about ten years lol...are his natural test levels 0 too?

Can't you leave some sperms to a sperm bank? Then you don't have to worry ...

big L dawg · « **Reply #17 on:** August 24, 2009, 11:12:57 AM »

do you guys know how catabolic kids can be?

Luv2Hurt · « **Reply #18 on:** August 24, 2009, 06:21:38 PM »

Quote from: big L dawg on August 24, 2009, 11:12:57 AM

do you guys know how catabolic kids can be?

LMAO!!

Yes forget life as you know it if you have any.

Massquest · « **Reply #19 on:** August 25, 2009, 03:43:23 AM »

I guess this means clomid and hcg are a waste of time... or at the very least a shot in the dark.

Luv2Hurt · « **Reply #20 on:** August 25, 2009, 05:03:12 AM »

Quote from: Massquest on August 25, 2009, 03:43:23 AM

I guess this means clomid and hcg are a waste of time... or at the very least a shot in the dark.

I would very much agree with this statement, maybe not a complete waste but for sure "a shot in the dark" IMO