Author Topic: The day Mr. Olympia got toppled (Read 36400 times)

Neptune100 · « **Reply #350 on:** August 28, 2009, 08:01:53 PM »

Ronnie 8
Dorian 6

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #351 on:** August 29, 2009, 04:30:53 PM »

Quote from: Neptune100 on August 28, 2009, 08:01:53 PM

Ronnie 8
Dorian 6

You seem to cling to that stat like the Holy Grail, while ignoring many other more pertinent statistics.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #352 on:** August 29, 2009, 04:41:16 PM »

Quote from: BuffD on August 28, 2009, 07:59:55 PM

So with that logic then how many O's does Haney have? Who actually beat Dorian? Thanks for playing.

Ouch

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #353 on:** August 29, 2009, 04:45:57 PM »

Exactly. This Neptune gimmick keeps fixating on 8 Olympia wins. In that case, Haney beats the shit out of Coleman, big time. Haney won his first title at a much younger age, and never lost during his reign, retiring as the man. Haney > Coleman! Then again, so was Gunter in 2002.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #354 on:** August 29, 2009, 04:50:55 PM »

Quote from: Mr.1derful on August 29, 2009, 04:45:57 PM

Exactly. This Neptune gimmick keeps fixating on 8 Olympia wins. In that case, Haney beats the shit out of Coleman, big time. Haney won his first title at a much younger age, and never lost during his reign, retiring as the man. Haney > Coleman! Then again, so was Gunter in 2002.

Hell the only questionable win for Haney was 1990 and that's not really questionable and he retired on stop literally his best conditioning was 1991
the same can't be said for Ronnie or Dorian

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #355 on:** August 30, 2009, 06:17:33 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on August 29, 2009, 04:50:55 PM

Hell the only questionable win for Haney was 1990 and that's not really questionable and he retired on stop literally his best conditioning was 1991
the same can't be said for Ronnie or Dorian

Haney > Ronnie
Dorian > Ronnie
Gunter 2002 > Ronnie
Jay 2001 > Ronnie
Jay 2006 > Ronnie
Everyone 2007 + > Ronnie

Hulkster · « **Reply #356 on:** August 30, 2009, 06:22:19 AM »

11th place competitor >>>dorian.

so much for good judging LOL

BuffD · « **Reply #357 on:** August 30, 2009, 07:00:06 AM »

Right. If Dorian was flexing his abs and quads that pic would look a WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT! Post some pics of Ronnie standing totally relaxed and not flexing against an 11th place finisher flexing and see what you get schmoe.

MethodGNA · « **Reply #358 on:** August 30, 2009, 07:13:38 AM »

Quote from: Hulkster on August 30, 2009, 06:22:19 AM

11th place competitor >>>dorian.

so much for good judging LOL

ridiculous that anyone would use that photo as "ammunition"..................obviou sly the competitors flanking him are standing flexed, and dorian was exhaling for a moment...........a good argument is one thing, ,but passing off inaccurate propaganda is something else entirely.

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #359 on:** August 30, 2009, 08:45:59 AM »

Quote from: MethodGNA on August 30, 2009, 07:13:38 AM

ridiculous that anyone would use that photo as "ammunition"..................obviou sly the competitors flanking him are standing flexed, and dorian was exhaling for a moment...........a good argument is one thing, ,but passing off inaccurate propaganda is something else entirely.

Huckster = Owned by logic! Again.

andreisdaman · « **Reply #360 on:** August 30, 2009, 08:52:07 AM »

Dorian was a good champion but lets face it guys, he was beaten more than once by Flex and Levrone and maybe even by Shawn and Nasser....NO WAY he deserved all those Olympias...Flex and Levrone especially were robbed

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #361 on:** August 30, 2009, 10:10:09 AM »

Quote from: andreisdaman on August 30, 2009, 08:52:07 AM

Dorian was a good champion but lets face it guys, he was beaten more than once by Flex and Levrone and maybe even by Shawn and Nasser....NO WAY he deserved all those Olympias...Flex and Levrone especially were robbed

Not one singletime did Flex put it all together to bring his best package against Dorian. Not once. How then, and at which contest was he supposedly robbed? Levrone had his moments, as he looked good in 1995 for example, but Dorian was even better. Shawn, well, Shawn was hanging in the land of the giants. He was good, but never good enough. Besides of which, Dorian is not the topic here, as much as Huck and his band of trolls would like to make him into the issue. Gunter beating Ronnie is, but they don't like that topic.

andreisdaman · « **Reply #362 on:** August 30, 2009, 10:14:01 AM »

Quote from: Mr.1derful on August 30, 2009, 10:10:09 AM

Not one singletime did Flex put it all together to bring his best package against Dorian. Not once. How then, and at which contest was he supposedly robbed? Levrone had his moments, as he looked good in 1995 for example, but Dorian was even better. Shawn, well, Shawn was hanging in the land of the giants. He was good, but never good enough.

oh Flex had a much more beautiful physique than Dorian..but your point has some validity...I really feel there should be a "beauty" round..but you don't have to call it that...meaning that the guy with the prettier, more asthetic, more visually satisfying physique should get some extra points for that as well

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #363 on:** August 30, 2009, 10:22:34 AM »

Quote from: andreisdaman on August 30, 2009, 10:14:01 AM

oh Flex had a much more beautiful physique than Dorian..but your point has some validity...I really feel there should be a "beauty" round..but you don't have to call it that...meaning that the guy with the prettier, more asthetic, more visually satisfying physique should get some extra points for that as well

That tends to be the conflict. Dorian's physique was less pleasing to one like Wheeler's, no doubt. However, Dorian's better ecompassed all of the requirements according to the criteria. Should how pleasing a physique is come more into play? Many would argue it should. That's an entire subject in itself, however.

Hulkster · « **Reply #364 on:** August 30, 2009, 10:31:09 AM »

Quote from: MethodGNA on August 30, 2009, 07:13:38 AM

ridiculous that anyone would use that photo as "ammunition"..................obviou sly the competitors flanking him are standing flexed, and dorian was exhaling for a moment...........a good argument is one thing, ,but passing off inaccurate propaganda is something else entirely.

ahahaha exhaling for a moment ahahahahaa

I suppose he was exhaling all the time onstage LOL

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #365 on:** August 30, 2009, 10:35:10 AM »

Just to get things back on point, Gunter 21 VS Ronnie 41. 20 point win by the German giant. Carry on.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #366 on:** August 30, 2009, 11:03:12 AM »

Quote from: Hulkster on August 30, 2009, 10:31:09 AM

ahahaha exhaling for a moment ahahahahaa

I suppose he was exhaling all the time onstage LOL

He's not fully flexed and you know it you troll and you're scared shit to post accurate pics

Hulkster · « **Reply #367 on:** August 30, 2009, 12:34:42 PM »

classic twigs on a blocky barrel haha

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #368 on:** August 30, 2009, 12:53:02 PM »

All that Ronnie fans see on the man is his arms and his ass...

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #369 on:** August 30, 2009, 12:57:56 PM »

Quote from: #1 Klaus fan on August 30, 2009, 12:53:02 PM

All that Ronnie fans see on the man is his arms and his ass...

Well, if they look for calves they're unlikely to find any.

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #370 on:** August 30, 2009, 01:40:05 PM »

Quote from: Mr.1derful on August 22, 2009, 05:43:04 PM

Gunther at his absolute best is a little bit better than Coleman at his absolute worst. So what? Coleman is an infinitely superior bodybuilder to Gunther, and Gunther only beat Coleman once because he was at his best and Coleman at his worst.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

BuffD · « **Reply #371 on:** August 30, 2009, 03:07:14 PM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on August 30, 2009, 01:40:05 PM

Gunther at his absolute best is a little bit better than Coleman at his absolute worst. So what? Coleman is an infinitely superior bodybuilder to Gunther, and Gunther only beat Coleman once because he was at his best and Coleman at his worst.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Ummm that is kind of the point of this thread. No one is saying Gunther is better than Coleman. It's just that on that one single day Gunther WAS better.

BuffD · « **Reply #372 on:** August 30, 2009, 03:15:05 PM »

Quote from: Hulkster on August 30, 2009, 10:31:09 AM

ahahaha exhaling for a moment ahahahahaa

I suppose he was exhaling all the time onstage LOL

Seriously schmoe you know damn well he isn't flexing in any of those pics. How come you didn't post any pics of Ronnie standing completely relaxed like I asked? Ah cuz you ignored that because you know damn well he'd look like ass next to anyone else that was standing next to him with their abs flexed and quads flexed. You just pick and chose pics that make someone look bad. You NEVER post great pics of both and don't pull that bullshit that Dorian never looked good. Again REAL industry experts, competitors, and judges will ALL admit that Dorian is one of the best ever. You don't cuz you are too much of a schmoe and too in love with Ronnie and aren't a judge, competitor or industry expert.

andreisdaman · « **Reply #373 on:** August 30, 2009, 03:26:36 PM »

Quote from: Mr.1derful on August 30, 2009, 10:22:34 AM

That tends to be the conflict. Dorian's physique was less pleasing to one like Wheeler's, no doubt. However, Dorian's better ecompassed all of the requirements according to the criteria. Should how pleasing a physique is come more into play? Many would argue it should. That's an entire subject in itself, however.

true

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #374 on:** August 30, 2009, 05:30:08 PM »

Quote from: BuffD on August 30, 2009, 03:07:14 PM

Ummm that is kind of the point of this thread. No one is saying Gunther is better than Coleman. It's just that on that one single day Gunther WAS better.

Exactly. At no time would I suggest that career vs career, Gunter is remotely close to Ronnie. But, Ronnie made the fatal mistake of taking the competition lightly and he got toppled.