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[Skip8282]

How long before the libs import this crap over here?   




European Groups Ban 'Racist' Everyday Phrases


It could be construed as a black day for the English language — but not if you work in the public sector in Europe.

Dozens of quasi non-governmental organization and taxpayer-funded organizations have ordered a purge of common words and phrases so as not to cause offense.

Among the everyday sayings that have been quietly dropped in a bid to stamp out racism and sexism are "whiter than white," "gentleman’s agreement," "black mark" and "right-hand man."

The Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission has advised staff to replace the phrase "black day" with "miserable day," according to documents released under freedom of information rules.

It points out that certain words carry with them a "hierarchical valuation of skin color." The commission even urges employees to be mindful of the term "ethnic minority" because it can imply "something smaller and less important."

The National Gallery in London believes that the phrase "gentleman’s agreement" is potentially offensive to women and suggests that staff should replace it with "unwritten agreement" or "an agreement based on trust" instead. The term "right-hand man" is also considered taboo by the gallery, with "second in command" being deemed more suitable.

[Eyeball Chambers]

WTF?   

[Skip8282]

WTF?   

I'm highly offended by those three letters.  Could you please use, "WTH" in the future?   

[Eyeball Chambers]

I'm highly offended by those three letters.  Could you please use, "WTH" in the future?   

lol

[Hugo Chavez]

I think this must be a joke.

[The True Adonis]

There is nothing to be outraged about at all.  Nothing is happening other than the suggestion of using different phrases in place of another within a work environment.


It would be akin to working at a corporation and everyone called the janitors "wetbacks".  Hopefully management would suggest that you do not call people "wetbacks".

Or the usage of guy) in the workplace etc...


What frightens me most is the knee-jerk reaction and failure to comprehend the article amongst many here, as if in fact this were some mandate that carries a punishable term should certain words or phrases be uttered.

Come on guys, you gotta read "articles" with a bit more attention put towards actual comprehension.

[Skip8282]

I think this must be a joke.

No, it's very real.

[Skip8282]

There is nothing to be outraged about at all.  Nothing is happening other than the suggestion of using different phrases in place of another within a work environment.


It would be akin to working at a corporation and everyone called the janitors "wetbacks".  Hopefully management would suggest that you do not call people "wetbacks".

Or the usage of guy) in the workplace etc...


What frightens me most is the knee-jerk reaction and failure to comprehend the article amongst many here, as if in fact this were some mandate that carries a punishable term should certain words or phrases be uttered.

Come on guys, you gotta read "articles" with a bit more attention put towards actual comprehension.

C'mon TA, this is bunk.  My own female supervisor referred to me as right-hand man.  And trying to compare the terms in the article with clearly racist terms is just nonsense.  It may be a suggestion now, but it wouldn't surprise me if it led to a law in the future.  It's political correctness taken to a ridiculous extreme.

And what's wrong with whiter than white?  A black person may refer to themselves by the N-word or any other designation, but a white person can't say whiter than white?  Utter nonsense...

[OzmO]

How long before the libs import this crap over here?   




European Groups Ban 'Racist' Everyday Phrases


It could be construed as a black day for the English language — but not if you work in the public sector in Europe.

Dozens of quasi non-governmental organization and taxpayer-funded organizations have ordered a purge of common words and phrases so as not to cause offense.

Among the everyday sayings that have been quietly dropped in a bid to stamp out racism and sexism are "whiter than white," "gentleman’s agreement," "black mark" and "right-hand man."

The Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission has advised staff to replace the phrase "black day" with "miserable day," according to documents released under freedom of information rules.

It points out that certain words carry with them a "hierarchical valuation of skin color." The commission even urges employees to be mindful of the term "ethnic minority" because it can imply "something smaller and less important."

The National Gallery in London believes that the phrase "gentleman’s agreement" is potentially offensive to women and suggests that staff should replace it with "unwritten agreement" or "an agreement based on trust" instead. The term "right-hand man" is also considered taboo by the gallery, with "second in command" being deemed more suitable.

This crap is already here.  You have to say "Happy Holidays" or "______ person".  It's lame.

[24KT]

WTF?   

I know it sounds absurd, ...but there is rationale for it. I used to know a Black girl in my acting class who used to refer to  innocent little fibs as "black lies" and HUGE whopping blatants lies as "white lies". I thought she was one of those idiots who saw racism in everything and one day I called her out on it. She justified her comments saying it was her way of waking people up to the subtle institutionalized racism that denigrates people everyday. we all thought she was bonkers until she suggested we try it and see what happens. So everyone in our class Black/White/Asian/Jews did this social experiment for a week. We inverted various expressions she gave us. It was AMAZING!!!! The way people responded blew our minds.

One day I was working on a Sidney Poitier film, and I was joking around with one of the AD's who happened to be a lesbian. Some stupid bigotted chick made a comment to me to be careful 'cause she might come onto me. The Assistant Director overheard it and said "She doesn't have to worry about me hitting on her, I know she leads an alternative lifestyle". It made me burst out laughing!

I've seen this type of reversal in films as well. There was one film whose title will go unmentioned, ...but it did it with expertise. AS we left the screening, ...white people were saying how much they hated the film. They just didn't enjoy it, ...and they couldn't quite put their fingers on why? Meanwhile, all the Black people leaving the theatre were exchanging knowing glances among themselves. They knew why it was so uncomfortable for the white audience. They saw the subleties thrown in, subtleties they spotted, ...not because they were smarter, but simply because they had so much more experience recognizing & dealing with it. Whereas, the caucasians in the audience were encountering it for the very first time, were completely disoriented... and all they could do was whine "I dunno... I didn't like it." They were like poor innocent babes in the woods.

[24KT]

This crap is already here.  You have to say "Happy Holidays" or "______ person".  It's lame.

You call it lame, ...but if you were ever refered to in the female gender... you'd freak!

There is the assumption that people in certain professions are male, and women are expected to accept that.
We always have taken it in stride that we will on occasion be refered to in the male gender, ...but when you call a man a woman, even if by error, ...they flip out and take huge offence. Some will even start fights. Men often reserve the female gender as nothing more than a pejorative. So to refer to it as lame is a cop out and a failure to acknowledge the institutionalized racism & sexism that permeates patriarchal cultures.

Not to mention all the Christian fundies who would freak if someone ever wished them a Happy Ramadan.

Why don't you go out and try it? It's Ramadan... go wish all the Christians you meet a Happy Ramadan.
...then tell them they can't eat nothing til the sun goes down. 

[OzmO]

You call it lame, ...but if you were ever refered to in the female gender... you'd freak!

There is the assumption that people in certain professions are male, and women are expected to accept that.
We always have taken it in stride that we will on occasion be refered to in the male gender, ...but when you call a man a woman, even if by error, ...they flip out and take huge offence. Some will even start fights. Men often reserve the female gender as nothing more than a pejorative. So to refer to it as lame is a cop out and a failure to acknowledge the institutionalized racism & sexism that permeates patriarchal cultures.

Not to mention all the Christian fundies who would freak if someone ever wished them a Happy Ramadan.

Why don't you go out and try it? It's Ramadan... go wish all the Christians you meet a Happy Ramadan.
...then tell them they can't eat nothing til the sun goes down. 

NO. 

When people "freak" out because someone called a woman a handyman or a male nurse freaks out because somebody assumed he was a woman IT IS THEIR FAULT FOR FREAKING OUT. 

This kind of BS breads weak over sensitive self esteem challenged pansies in society.  People need to get over themselves.  All this kind of thinking does is give lawyers jobs.

This crap is about as lame as it could get. 

[Skip8282]

You call it lame, ...but if you were ever refered to in the female gender... you'd freak!

There is the assumption that people in certain professions are male, and women are expected to accept that.
We always have taken it in stride that we will on occasion be refered to in the male gender, ...but when you call a man a woman, even if by error, ...they flip out and take huge offence. Some will even start fights. Men often reserve the female gender as nothing more than a pejorative. So to refer to it as lame is a cop out and a failure to acknowledge the institutionalized racism & sexism that permeates patriarchal cultures.

Not to mention all the Christian fundies who would freak if someone ever wished them a Happy Ramadan.

Why don't you go out and try it? It's Ramadan... go wish all the Christians you meet a Happy Ramadan.
...then tell them they can't eat nothing til the sun goes down. 

When I was younger, a man, not a boy, an operator on the phone said, "What is your name ma'am?" (I was making a collect call).  I didn't freak out or ask for her supervisor or even let it bother me in any way.  It's what you make of it.  If you want to act as though it's a life altering experience, then that's what it's going to be.  I also have two girls and it's not uncommon for one girl to come up to a group of girls and say, "What's up GUYS!". 

This is nothing more than making a mountain out of a molehill.

And why are you defending this anyway?  You're endlessly calling people stupid, dumb, ignorant...

[OzmO]

rotf

[Bindare_Dundat]

When I was younger, a man, not a boy, an operator on the phone said, "What is your name ma'am?" (I was making a collect call).  I didn't freak out or ask for her supervisor or even let it bother me in any way.  It's what you make of it.  If you want to act as though it's a life altering experience, then that's what it's going to be.  I also have two girls and it's not uncommon for one girl to come up to a group of girls and say, "What's up GUYS!". 

This is nothing more than making a mountain out of a molehill.

And why are you defending this anyway?  You're endlessly calling people stupid, dumb, ignorant...

You should teach your girls to say, "Whats up assholes?", then there wouldn't be a problem.

[gcb]

this isn't a big deal - get over it

[Skip8282]

You should teach your girls to say, "Whats up assholes?", then there wouldn't be a problem.

If I did that, my wife would ream mine.   

[Eyeball Chambers]

When I was younger, a man, not a boy, an operator on the phone said, "What is your name ma'am?" (I was making a collect call).  I didn't freak out or ask for her supervisor or even let it bother me in any way.  It's what you make of it.  If you want to act as though it's a life altering experience, then that's what it's going to be.  I also have two girls and it's not uncommon for one girl to come up to a group of girls and say, "What's up GUYS!". 

This is nothing more than making a mountain out of a molehill.

And why are you defending this anyway?  You're endlessly calling people stupid, dumb, ignorant...

haha, when I first got my drivers license I was ordering food at the speaker of Wendy's and the girls working said "Can I help you Ma'am".  It was awkward when I pulled up to the window. 

[24KT]

When I was younger, a man, not a boy, an operator on the phone said, "What is your name ma'am?" (I was making a collect call).  I didn't freak out or ask for her supervisor or even let it bother me in any way.  It's what you make of it.  If you want to act as though it's a life altering experience, then that's what it's going to be.  I also have two girls and it's not uncommon for one girl to come up to a group of girls and say, "What's up GUYS!". 
This is nothing more than making a mountain out of a molehill.

And why are you defending this anyway?  You're endlessly calling people stupid, dumb, ignorant...

That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's so institutionalized that females generally don't have a problem being refered to in the male gender. But when a boy walks into a room full of other boys, and says "What's up girls?"... what is the reaction? Whether they make a big deal about it is irrelevant. They will feel offput by it, ...whether it is expressed or not. they will be momentarily disoriented, ...not sure what to make of it. "Is this guy insulting us?" "Is this guy gay and just being effeminate?" They're not quite sure what to make of it, ...but it's not casually accepted in stride without a 2nd thought. That's what I'm talking about.... the everyday acceptance of common terms & phrases. Term & phrases so institutionalized, that people rarely give thought to any possible offense or denigration they may bring for others.

You ask why I defend it. I don't defend it, ...I just don't see a reason to attack it. A better question for you is,
...are you so blinded by a sense of entitlement & priviledge, that you are unable to see how some things may cause subtle and/or unstated offence to others, ...and are you so inconsiderate that you would attack suggestions for people to practice conscious tconsideration. I thought we were tired of people sleep walking. What's so wrong with being aware? ...other than the fact that with awareness comes personal accountability?

[24KT]

You should teach your girls to say, "Whats up assholes?", then there wouldn't be a problem.

I dunno.... the vajayjay might feel a bit neglected... and go on a hunger strike for equal rights.
You never want that to happen. You should always keep the vajayjay very well fed. 

[24KT]

haha, when I first got my drivers license I was ordering food at the speaker of Wendy's and the girls working said "Can I help you Ma'am".  It was awkward when I pulled up to the window. 

My girlfriend had a 14 yr old son, ...and there were so many times when he'd answer the phone, and I mistook his voice for hers. It killed me every time I did that. I felt like crap. lol. And I couldn't help it. His voice sounded so much like hers, ...especially with that Louisiana accent. The poor kid never said anything, but I knew it bugged him.

He'd always complain to his Mom that she was an Amazon at 5' 11" and he was a midget who sounded like a girl. He was desperate for puberty to set in, and he was terrified he'd inherit his height from his Dad who was only 5'2".  I hadn't talked with her for a while, and one day in 2003, he answered the phone, and I swear, no word of a lie, ...he sounded like a MAN! His voice was almost as deep as Barry White's. I thought she had a man living with her. When she came to the phone I was like "So who's the new guy in your life? Dish girl dish!" She just laughed and said... no that was Brian... he finally hit puberty. lol. I didn't believe her, ...then I heard him in the background yelling "Mom can I take your truck tonight?" I couldn't believe it was the same kid. One things for sure, ...I'll never be mistaking his voice for hers anymore.

[Bindare_Dundat]

I dunno.... the vajayjay might feel a bit neglected... and go on a hunger strike for equal rights.
You never want that to happen. You should always keep the vajayjay very well fed. 

lol

Can I feed your vajajay?

[24KT]

lol

Can I feed your vajajay?

I dunno... it's a gluttinous little thing... but it's also a real finicky eater too.... only eats sausages. 

[Bindare_Dundat]

I dunno... it's a gluttinous little thing... but it's also a real finicky eater too.... only eats sausages. 

It might like a large Cavendish banana.

[24KT]

It might like a large Cavendish banana.

Eeeek!

Ummm... it finds bananas very yummy too, ...but that one might be a bit too big for it.