Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?

[Sherief Shalaby]

Flex magazine pointed out that at an Olympia expo the lineup at Nasser's booth for photos/autographs was very very long while Kevin Levrone's booth seated next to him was empty or near empty

wow bobs i swear i wrote my previous comment before reading yours

[Sherief Shalaby]

1996 was the ONLY year Nasser had a better record that Levrone.

That's YEAR.....singular, as in ONE. So being that they both competed in the same 10 year span, that means Kevin won 9 rounds to Nasser's 1

BTW Nasser got DQ'ed at the Olympia that year for being sub-human scum

Levrone placed 4th 

You are a cool dude BigKnobs and an intelligent, well spoken guy

But you need to STFU with this already, the numbers don't lie. You being an accountant and all should know this.

you dont make any sense when saying that nasser got disdualified and levrone placed 4th!!.. like this levrone placed 3rd asshole

[Sherief Shalaby]

Kevin.  Just like his physique better.  

I also align Kevin with an entire era of bb.  He, Shawn, and Flex, for that matter - to me they were the epitome of the 90's bb revival.  More than Dorian or Ronnie, actually.   When I think of Nasser, I just think 96-97.  Like I only think of 83-84 when I think of Samir; truly great briefly, but not for an 'era', like the guys above, or Arnold, Franco, and Zane in the 70's.

samir was better in 82 than in 84.. imo in 82 he should have won (you can check the video on youtube).. in 85 or so his triceps was severely injured in  car accident and after recovery he couldn't present his best shape again.. by the way samir is christian (this note is for the idiots who always claim i support nasser because he is muslim)..

[LatsMcGee]

you dont make any sense when saying that nasser got disdualified and levrone placed 4th!!.. like this levrone placed 3rd asshole

Wow,  and you called him an asshole? Wow.

[WillGrant]

Dam Shereif you are on a posting spree 

[Sherief Shalaby]

Dam Shereif you are on a posting spree 

 

[LatsMcGee]

Dam Shereif you are on a posting spree 

He might get "disdualified" if he doesn't act fast.

[#1 Klaus fan]

Wolf's gonna win it...

[Sherief Shalaby]

quads + hams + calves = lower body = half body..

nasser has all the 3 of them much better than levrone..

just a quick note came to my mind ..

[just_a_pilgrim]

Until this thread hits 400 pages who really cares

[Gino30]

  Nasser the Filthy Arab

Filthy and full of oil.


He is seen as a filthy disgrace to all Arnold winners.

[Playboy]

Discuss.

its all about the winnings and Kevin Levrone has way, way, way more. Common sense.

[Gino30]

But you need to STFU with this already, the numbers don't lie. You being an accountant and all should know this.

An arab accountant...........tax refunds = homous + suicide packs

[bigbobs]

There is NO discussion . Levrone by a country mile

20 professional wins 4 Mr Olympia runner-up spots

6 professional wins for Nasser with 1 Mr Olympia runner-up spot

So according to your logic theree is no discussion either between who is a greater bodybuilder between Ronnie Coleman and Dorian Yates, as the former has many more pro wins

[Sherief Shalaby]

So according to your logic theree is no discussion either between who is a greater bodybuilder between Ronnie Coleman and Dorian Yates, as the former has many more pro wins

hahahhahahahahaa..

[FlexGuns]

There is NO discussion . Levrone by a country mile

20 professional wins 4 Mr Olympia runner-up spots

6 professional wins for Nasser with 1 Mr Olympia runner-up spot

Great Post!   
QFT. Kevin beats him clearly. LOL  End of Discussion. Kevin > Nasser

[bigdumbbell]

kevin

[NarcissisticDeity]

So according to your logic theree is no discussion either between who is a greater bodybuilder between Ronnie Coleman and Dorian Yates, as the former has many more pro wins

Purely from a statistical standpoint Ronnie is a greater bodybuilder than Dorian because he has more Olympia wins and professional wins , I don't have a problem with that it doesn't mean much in the context of Dorian-vs-Ronnie because zero of those wins are against Dorian 

And you're missing the big picture win/loss ratio Dorian 88% vs Ronnie's 40%  Dorian was a winning machine never once placing below second place in a professional contest that's insanity not even matched to this day . from a statistical standpoint Dorian would beat Ronnie , especially considering he faced Ronnie 8 times and beat him all 8 times 

53 contests for Nasser with just 6 wins that's a win/loss ratio of 11%
62 contests for Kevin with 20 wins that's a win/loss ratio of 32%
16 contests for Lee Haney with 11 wins that's a win/loss ratio of 68% never once placing below 3rd in a pro contest

[Tyr]

Purely from a statistical standpoint Ronnie is a greater bodybuilder than Dorian because he has more Olympia wins and professional wins , I don't have a problem with that it doesn't mean much in the context of Dorian-vs-Ronnie because zero of those wins are against Dorian 

And you're missing the big picture win/loss ratio Dorian 88% vs Ronnie's 40%  Dorian was a winning machine never once placing below second place in a professional contest that's insanity not even matched to this day . from a statistical standpoint Dorian would beat Ronnie , especially considering he faced Ronnie 8 times and beat him all 8 times 

53 contests for Nasser with just 6 wins that's a win/loss ratio of 11%
62 contests for Kevin with 20 wins that's a win/loss ratio of 32%
16 contests for Lee Haney with 11 wins that's a win/loss ratio of 68% never once placing below 3rd in a pro contest

You're wasting your time. Logical arguments have no effect on the nasser cabal.
They'll read this - stare at each other dumbly and then start another old Dorian Vs Nasser, reiterating the same points that they were proven wrong in the past.

[NarcissisticDeity]

You're wasting your time. Logical arguments have no effect on the nasser cabal.
They'll read this - stare at each other dumbly and then start another old Dorian Vs Nasser, reiterating the same points that they were proven wrong in the past.

With each post these guys commit to their ignorance & delusion and we all get to sit back and enjoy the show .

All they can do is try and fluff him up ( pun intended ) to more than what he really was

[bigbobs]

Purely from a statistical standpoint Ronnie is a greater bodybuilder than Dorian because he has more Olympia wins and professional wins , I don't have a problem with that it doesn't mean much in the context of Dorian-vs-Ronnie because zero of those wins are against Dorian 

And you're missing the big picture win/loss ratio Dorian 88% vs Ronnie's 40%  Dorian was a winning machine never once placing below second place in a professional contest that's insanity not even matched to this day . from a statistical standpoint Dorian would beat Ronnie , especially considering he faced Ronnie 8 times and beat him all 8 times 

53 contests for Nasser with just 6 wins that's a win/loss ratio of 11%
62 contests for Kevin with 20 wins that's a win/loss ratio of 32%
16 contests for Lee Haney with 11 wins that's a win/loss ratio of 68% never once placing below 3rd in a pro contest

LMAO @ "big picture" - bodybuilding is not statistics.  Yates did not enter very many shows and retired early.  There's also a lot more than "how many contests did you win" otherwise someone with 5 wins and 5 last places would look better (according to your "statistics") than someone with 4 wins and 6 2nd placings. 

[Tyr]

LMAO @ "big picture" - bodybuilding is not statistics.  Yates did not enter very many shows and retired early.  There's also a lot more than "how many contests did you win" otherwise someone with 5 wins and 5 last places would look better (according to your "statistics") than someone with 4 wins and 6 2nd placings. 

Yet nasser competed in over 3 times as many shows as Yates and was only able to accomplish 6 wins. He was always in an "also ran" slot and could never even repeat a win - dropping down in placings in competitions he had won the previous year.

Yates played it smart and retired before he endangered his health
Nasser continued to spiral downwards and only retired after he had destroyed his health and was unable to compete anymore. 
 

[NarcissisticDeity]

LMAO @ "big picture" - bodybuilding is not statistics.  Yates did not enter very many shows and retired early.  There's also a lot more than "how many contests did you win" otherwise someone with 5 wins and 5 last places would look better (according to your "statistics") than someone with 4 wins and 6 2nd placings. 

No why take that into context of who is better 

Dorian didn't need to enter many contests his main focus and goal wad the Olympia every other one was an after thought and I agree there is more than how many contests you win many points to ponder which is exact why I included how many runner-ups at the Olympia and how many Kevin beat Nasser ( which I did before ) don't hyper-focus on one element I can embarrass you even more with how many second place contests Kevin won and how he never placed below 8th in a pro contest compared to Nasser if you'd like 

out of the two Kevin is by far the superior bodybuilder without question it's not debatable

[bigbobs]

Yet nasser competed in over 3 times as many shows as Yates and was only able to accomplish 6 wins. He was always in an "also ran" slot and could never even repeat a win - dropping down in placings in competitions he had won the previous year.

Yates played it smart and retired before he endangered his health
Nasser continued to spiral downwards and only retired after he had destroyed his health and was unable to compete anymore. 
 

It's not as though he'd win then completely drop, he was very consistent with 29 top 3 placings in 31 consecutive shows over 4 years (with the other two being 4th places).  Before that he was an up-commer for his first four-five years as a pro and afterwards his placings dropped as he came closer to retirement.  

Nasser is open about his few visits to the hospital and shares them with the public as he is not ashamed of it at all.  Just because Yates has not come out and discussed any health issues he had in the past does not mean he's healthier.  None of us can say who is healthier today between the two of them.

[Tyr]

No why take that into context of who is better 

Dorian didn't need to enter many contests his main focus and goal wad the Olympia every other one was an after thought and I agree there is more than how many contests you win many points to ponder which is exact why I included how many runner-ups at the Olympia and how many Kevin beat Nasser ( which I did before ) don't hyper-focus on one element I can embarrass you even more with how many second place contests Kevin won and how he never placed below 8th in a pro contest compared to Nasser if you'd like 

out of the two Kevin is by far the superior bodybuilder without question it's not debatable

Good points.  Same thing with Ronnie. Once he devoted himself to the Olympia he rarely prepared for any other competition.  Nasser on the other hand was competing everywhere - US and Internationally and all he accomplished was a  stunning record of 6 wins and ended up in 15th place before being forced to retire. Of course its all due to racism