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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #150 on: September 09, 2009, 12:40:22 PM »
*Yawn*  ND still trying to suggest that the question of who is a better bodybuilder can simply be answered by quantitative factors alone, while ignoring the major qualitative factor that Levrone only beat Nasser when he was not at his best.  Your "stats" focus on years when Nasser was still growing (his first five years as a pro) as well as his last few years where he was not even competing seriously anymore.

Using your purely statisitcal method Levrone probably has more wins against Ronnie Coleman than vice versa, so obviously stats alone do not answer the question.

Ronnie Coleman can continue competing until he's 50 or 60 and as his placings drop, would that make him a poorer bodybuilder than if he just chooses to retire now?  Of course not.

Similarly, the fact that Nasser continued to compete for several years past his prime does not make him a worse bodybuilder than if he retired after 99 or 2000, yet ND's "statistics" incorrectly suggest this does make him a worse bodybuider.

During his best Nasser got top 3 in 29 of 31 consecutive shows over 4 years (with only two 4th places).  He also beat Levrone 11 tinmes during this period (including the 96 Olympia).  There's a reason why at the 98 O Flex mag believed it to be a competition between Nasser and Wheeler (Levrone and Ray weren't even considered top contednders).

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*Yawn*  ND still trying to suggest that the question of who is a better bodybuilder can simply be answered by quantitative factors alone, while ignoring the major qualitative factor that Levrone only beat Nasser when he was not at his best.  Your "stats" focus on years when Nasser was still growing (his first five years as a pro) as well as his last few years where he was not even competing seriously anymore.

The question of who is a better bodybuilder has been answered you just don't like the results because as usual your hero doesn't make the cut. You're just gonna have to accept that facts Nasser wasn't as good as you and the other zealots make him out to be

Kevin only beat Nasser when he wasn't at his best? This is Kevin's fault? Nasser didn't show up in great shape and it's Kevin's fault? and that works two ways Bob-o , Nasser only beat Kevin when Kevin was off once again you trying to have it both ways

I posted all the stats that cover both of their entire careers and Kevin outclassed Nasser


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Using your purely statisitcal method Levrone probably has more wins against Ronnie Coleman than vice versa, so obviously stats alone do not answer the question.

It's not only wins against each other it's the whole career , wins against each other , wins against others , professional wins , second places , loses , impact everything has to be considered don't just cherry pick one aspect and cry foul


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Ronnie Coleman can continue competing until he's 50 or 60 and as his placings drop, would that make him a poorer bodybuilder than if he just chooses to retire now?  Of course not.

No and why? he has the most career wins and EIGHT Sandows this sets him apart from everyone and always will

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Similarly, the fact that Nasser continued to compete for several years past his prime does not make him a worse bodybuilder than if he retired after 99 or 2000, yet ND's "statistics" incorrectly suggest this does make him a worse bodybuider

It makes him worse because Kevin even at the twilight of his career was still competitive 3rd place in his last contest which shows he was more competitive throughout his entire career and unlike Nasser who had a few good years

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During his best Nasser got top 3 in 29 of 31 consecutive shows over 4 years (with only two 4th places).  He also beat Levrone 11 tinmes during this period (including the 96 Olympia).  There's a reason why at the 98 O Flex mag believed it to be a competition between Nasser and Wheeler (Levrone and Ray weren't even considered top contednders

Oh so you only wanna count the good years  ::) not how it's done . he did NOT beat Levrone 11 times stop typing this out right LIE he did NOT beat Levrone in 1996 he was disqualified for cheating he beat Levrone 10 times and Kevin beat him 25 , Kevin beat him a hell of a lot more than he beat him

And oh you're touting Flex magazine when it suits your purpose but when it doesn't they're flat-out wrong , I see you went to the Hulkster school of hypocrisy . Levrone & Ray were always considered top contenders in 1998 , with the odds on favorites going to Flex ( who was racking up spring show wins ) and Nasser who was the runner-up in 1997 and he blew it , wide open field he had the clear advantage of being the runner-up the previous year and the fan favorite and like the Yankees he choked


Kevin is not only a better bodybuilder than Nasser , he's a much better bodybuilder than Nasser it's not close , not stat wise not physique wise not career wise .


Nasser was a ho-hum bodybuilder that appealed to a base level of fans because he was super massive and not much more , keep trying to create him into something more and good luck because you've failed thus far .

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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #151 on: September 09, 2009, 01:07:18 PM »
The question of who is a better bodybuilder has been answered you just don't like the results because as usual your hero doesn't make the cut. You're just gonna have to accept that facts Nasser wasn't as good as you and the other zealots make him out to be

Kevin only beat Nasser when he wasn't at his best? This is Kevin's fault? Nasser didn't show up in great shape and it's Kevin's fault? and that works two ways Bob-o , Nasser only beat Kevin when Kevin was off once again you trying to have it both ways

I posted all the stats that cover both of their entire careers and Kevin outclassed Nasser


It's not only wins against each other it's the whole career , wins against each other , wins against others , professional wins , second places , loses , impact everything has to be considered don't just cherry pick one aspect and cry foul


No and why? he has the most career wins and EIGHT Sandows this sets him apart from everyone and always will

It makes him worse because Kevin even at the twilight of his career was still competitive 3rd place in his last contest which shows he was more competitive throughout his entire career and unlike Nasser who had a few good years

Oh so you only wanna count the good years  ::) not how it's done . he did NOT beat Levrone 11 times stop typing this out right LIE he did NOT beat Levrone in 1996 he was disqualified for cheating he beat Levrone 10 times and Kevin beat him 25 , Kevin beat him a hell of a lot more than he beat him

And oh you're touting Flex magazine when it suits your purpose but when it doesn't they're flat-out wrong , I see you went to the Hulkster school of hypocrisy . Levrone & Ray were always considered top contenders in 1998 , with the odds on favorites going to Flex ( who was racking up spring show wins ) and Nasser who was the runner-up in 1997 and he blew it , wide open field he had the clear advantage of being the runner-up the previous year and the fan favorite and like the Yankees he choked


Kevin is not only a better bodybuilder than Nasser , he's a much better bodybuilder than Nasser it's not close , not stat wise not physique wise not career wise .


Nasser was a ho-hum bodybuilder that appealed to a base level of fans because he was super massive and not much more , keep trying to create him into something more and good luck because you've failed thus far .

What a cock Bigbobs is.

Now Nasshole wasn't "competing seriously" for the last 5 years of his career, and he was "still growing" in his first 5. I've never seen someone make more bullshit excuses for someone in my life.

He was only serious when he won, right Bigknobs  ::) ::)

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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #152 on: September 09, 2009, 01:09:18 PM »
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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #153 on: September 09, 2009, 01:20:37 PM »
Kevin versus Nasser really isn't even a fair comparison.  Kevin has arguably one of the greatest physiques ever.
Nasser is really remembered more for what his physique lacked (back) and the use of synthol.

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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #154 on: September 09, 2009, 01:27:32 PM »
What a cock Bigbobs is.

Now Nasshole wasn't "competing seriously" for the last 5 years of his career, and he was "still growing" in his first 5. I've never seen someone make more bullshit excuses for someone in my life.

He was only serious when he won, right Bigknobs  ::) ::)

Exactly like it's Kevin's fault Nasser wasn't as good right out the box as him or Kevin beat him more often than not because Nasser wasn't in shape lol great logic




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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #155 on: September 09, 2009, 01:30:24 PM »
Exactly like it's Kevin's fault Nasser wasn't as good right out the box as him or Kevin beat him more often than not because Nasser wasn't in shape lol great logic





Nasser sells more "sports memorabilia" currently than Kevin, who doesn't sell any. Does that not give the Wizard an advantage ???

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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #156 on: September 09, 2009, 01:35:10 PM »
There's 40 000 pre-orders for the Nasser bestseller.  Look it up at Amazon.

If you factor in the entire aura of greatness that surrounds Nasser (ie. Nasser's massive popularity, penchant for the truth, smashing pumpkins)  He might be the greatest pageant contestant of all time

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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #157 on: September 09, 2009, 01:50:55 PM »
Kevin versus Nasser really isn't even a fair comparison.  Kevin has arguably one of the greatest physiques ever.
Nasser is really remembered more for what his physique lacked (back) and the use of synthol.

Yes...Nasser the filthy used synthol to bring up his weak bodyparts because he wasn't serious  ::)

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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #158 on: September 09, 2009, 01:58:55 PM »
Nasser sells more "sports memorabilia" currently than Kevin, who doesn't sell any. Does that not give the Wizard an advantage ???

What's funny is they swore up and down he did NOT sell them now they try and down play how pathetic things have become for him by spinning and saying he's merely doing it as a service to his fans  ::)


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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #159 on: September 09, 2009, 02:00:28 PM »
The question of who is a better bodybuilder has been answered you just don't like the results because as usual your hero doesn't make the cut. You're just gonna have to accept that facts Nasser wasn't as good as you and the other zealots make him out to be

Kevin only beat Nasser when he wasn't at his best? This is Kevin's fault? Nasser didn't show up in great shape and it's Kevin's fault? and that works two ways Bob-o , Nasser only beat Kevin when Kevin was off once again you trying to have it both ways

I posted all the stats that cover both of their entire careers and Kevin outclassed Nasser


It's not only wins against each other it's the whole career , wins against each other , wins against others , professional wins , second places , loses , impact everything has to be considered don't just cherry pick one aspect and cry foul


No and why? he has the most career wins and EIGHT Sandows this sets him apart from everyone and always will

It makes him worse because Kevin even at the twilight of his career was still competitive 3rd place in his last contest which shows he was more competitive throughout his entire career and unlike Nasser who had a few good years

Oh so you only wanna count the good years  ::) not how it's done . he did NOT beat Levrone 11 times stop typing this out right LIE he did NOT beat Levrone in 1996 he was disqualified for cheating he beat Levrone 10 times and Kevin beat him 25 , Kevin beat him a hell of a lot more than he beat him

And oh you're touting Flex magazine when it suits your purpose but when it doesn't they're flat-out wrong , I see you went to the Hulkster school of hypocrisy . Levrone & Ray were always considered top contenders in 1998 , with the odds on favorites going to Flex ( who was racking up spring show wins ) and Nasser who was the runner-up in 1997 and he blew it , wide open field he had the clear advantage of being the runner-up the previous year and the fan favorite and like the Yankees he choked


Kevin is not only a better bodybuilder than Nasser , he's a much better bodybuilder than Nasser it's not close , not stat wise not physique wise not career wise .


Nasser was a ho-hum bodybuilder that appealed to a base level of fans because he was super massive and not much more , keep trying to create him into something more and good luck because you've failed thus far .

Whoa, can you say MELTDOWN of epic proportions? lol, have never seen anyone melt so badly at one of my posts.  FACT is that during their respective bests, Nasser repeatedly beat Kevin over and over for 4 consecutive years (11 shows), and only lost a few of the less significant 97 GP shows.  All Mr. O's and Arnold Classics during this time went to Nasser > Levrone.  You can't stand this fact so you resort to comparing their careers while Nasser was an early pro or right before his retirement when he was going downhill.  

Levrone was at or near his best throughout his whole competitive career, so its simply BS that he was in poor shape during Nasser's prime and therefore Nasser supposedly didn't beat Levrone at his best.

If Nasser held off on competing in a pro qualifier until 94 or 95 then he'd be able to say he won his first pro show within a year of turning pro - and that would supposedly make him a better bodybuilder? LMAO.  Or if he decided to retire after the 2000 Olympia?   ::)

And Nasser soundly beat Levrone (and Flex Wheeler) at the 96 Olympia.  Just as Jay Cutler's 2001 placing is recognized, so is Nasser's.  Regardless of whether the IFBB took back the prize money and updated the placings on their website, the majority of followers of the "sport" recognize his 96 placing.  


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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #160 on: September 09, 2009, 02:10:18 PM »
Whoa, can you say MELTDOWN of epic proportions? lol, have never seen anyone melt so badly at one of my posts.  FACT is that during their respective bests, Nasser repeatedly beat Kevin over and over for 4 consecutive years (11 shows), and only lost a few of the less significant 97 GP shows.  All Mr. O's and Arnold Classics during this time went to Nasser > Levrone.  You can't stand this fact so you resort to comparing their careers while Nasser was an early pro or right before his retirement when he was going downhill.  

Levrone was at or near his best throughout his whole competitive career, so its simply BS that he was in poor shape during Nasser's prime and therefore Nasser supposedly didn't beat Levrone at his best.

If Nasser held off on competing in a pro qualifier until 94 or 95 then he'd be able to say he won his first pro show within a year of turning pro - and that would supposedly make him a better bodybuilder? LMAO.  Or if he decided to retire after the 2000 Olympia?   ::)

And Nasser soundly beat Levrone (and Flex Wheeler) at the 96 Olympia.  Just as Jay Cutler's 2001 placing is recognized, so is Nasser's.  Regardless of whether the IFBB took back the prize money and updated the placings on their website, the majority of followers of the "sport" recognize his 96 placing.  



Nasser was disqualified in 96 for using an illegal diuretic. he did not finish third.

He resorted to using Diuretics that were unacceptable to the IFBB. remember this was in the aftermath of Andreas Munzer dropping dead and they were trying to reel in the drastic drying out.

Nasser being the smug Cock-Licker that he is, thought this didn't apply to him and was justly disciplined for being a douchebag, he got what he deserved

this is fact 

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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #161 on: September 09, 2009, 02:13:03 PM »
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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #162 on: September 09, 2009, 02:18:25 PM »
Nasser was disqualified in 96 for using an illegal diuretic. he did not finish third.

He resorted to using Diuretics that were unacceptable to the IFBB. remember this was in the aftermath of Andreas Munzer dropping dead and they were trying to reel in the drastic drying out.

Nasser being the smug Cock-Licker that he is, thought this didn't apply to him and was justly disciplined for being a douchebag, he got what he deserved

this is fact 

Actually, practically every competitor in 96 took diuretics.  They made a rumour that there would be a test to show that they're "doing something" about the drug "problem," but in actuality no test occured.  Nasser mentioned in passing that he took diuretics to Matarazzo, who mentioned it to certain IFBB officials, and based on that they took away Nasser's prize money on the basis that he "cheated" just in order to find a scapegoat and show that they're "doing something" about diuretics. 

Ask anyone who competed in the 96 Olympia whether or not an actual test occured, you'll be surprised ;)

Majority of bb-followers consider Nasser as getting third in 96.  Ask 10 bb fans who got 3rd in 96, and most will say "Nasser," not whatever the name of the person is who got 4th prior to Nasser's disqualification.  Also, no one will say "Nasser lost to Levrone in 96 because he got disqualified" lol.

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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #163 on: September 09, 2009, 02:20:03 PM »
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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #164 on: September 09, 2009, 02:26:22 PM »
Whoa, can you say MELTDOWN of epic proportions? lol, have never seen anyone melt so badly at one of my posts.  FACT is that during their respective bests, Nasser repeatedly beat Kevin over and over for 4 consecutive years (11 shows), and only lost a few of the less significant 97 GP shows.  All Mr. O's and Arnold Classics during this time went to Nasser > Levrone.  You can't stand this fact so you resort to comparing their careers while Nasser was an early pro or right before his retirement when he was going downhill.  

Levrone was at or near his best throughout his whole competitive career, so its simply BS that he was in poor shape during Nasser's prime and therefore Nasser supposedly didn't beat Levrone at his best.

If Nasser held off on competing in a pro qualifier until 94 or 95 then he'd be able to say he won his first pro show within a year of turning pro - and that would supposedly make him a better bodybuilder? LMAO.  Or if he decided to retire after the 2000 Olympia?   ::)

And Nasser soundly beat Levrone (and Flex Wheeler) at the 96 Olympia.  Just as Jay Cutler's 2001 placing is recognized, so is Nasser's.  Regardless of whether the IFBB took back the prize money and updated the placings on their website, the majority of followers of the "sport" recognize his 96 placing.  



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Whoa, can you say MELTDOWN of epic proportions? lol, have never seen anyone melt so badly at one of my posts.  FACT is that during their respective bests, Nasser repeatedly beat Kevin over and over for 4 consecutive years (11 shows), and only lost a few of the less significant 97 GP shows.  All Mr. O's and Arnold Classics during this time went to Nasser > Levrone.  You can't stand this fact so you resort to comparing their careers while Nasser was an early pro or right before his retirement when he was going downhill. 

What else are you going to say? you can't argue with the facts so when faced with an irrefutable facts cry ' meltdown ' do you even know what a meltdown is? where is the personal attacks? the obscene language ? I mean this is what you're offering us? this is it?  ??? seriously you're making yourself look a LOT worse than I just did

FACT you don't even know Levrone's best is , FACT whenever they faced each other Kevin Levrone soundly beat Nasser 25 to 10 , you only wanna take into consideration when Nasser was beating Kevin ( which was rare ) the FACTS can't be changed out of the two Levrone is the greater bodybuilder of all time

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Levrone was at or near his best throughout his whole competitive career, so its simply BS that he was in poor shape during Nasser's prime and therefore Nasser supposedly didn't beat Levrone at his best.

Again YOU don't even know when Kevin's best was , and Nasser beat him ONLY when he was off NOT on the stats confirm this 25 to 10

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If Nasser held off on competing in a pro qualifier until 94 or 95 then he'd be able to say he won his first pro show within a year of turning pro - and that would supposedly make him a better bodybuilder? LMAO.  Or if he decided to retire after the 2000 Olympia?   ::)

Again factor in ALL these things and we're not talking about if's or buts or ands we're talking about FACTS

Fact Kevin was a winner right out of the gate , Nasser wasn't
FACT Kevin won a pro show in his first year , Nasser took years , he turned pro in 1990 and didn't win a pro show until 5 years later , FACT Levrone was more competitive at the start , middle and end of his career ALL factors considered not just cherry picking like you

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And Nasser soundly beat Levrone (and Flex Wheeler) at the 96 Olympia.  Just as Jay Cutler's 2001 placing is recognized, so is Nasser's.  Regardless of whether the IFBB took back the prize money and updated the placings on their website, the majority of followers of the "sport" recognize his 96 placing. 

NO he didn't sorry slick you can't rewrite history , 199 Mr Olympia Nasser was DQ he has NO placing i.e. he did NOT beat Kevin Levrone he did NOT beat Flex Wheeler , Nasser agreed in 1996 as did ALL the competitors that not only would they lose their contest placings but they would also forfeit their contest earnings , Nasser knew he cheated he doesn't exist at the 199 Mr Olympia with the exception of an asterisk saying he was disqualified for cheating , he did NOT beat anyone in 1996

like Hulkster you can't touch the facts you look for diversions like claiming ' meltdown '  ::) from him that was expected from you it shows how desperate you've become because you're not good enough ( ironically like your hero ) to compete with me so look for another way out


Kevin Levrone is the superior bodybuilder compared to Nasser , case closed. 


 

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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #165 on: September 09, 2009, 02:30:08 PM »

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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #166 on: September 09, 2009, 02:34:19 PM »
Actually, practically every competitor in 96 took diuretics.  They made a rumour that there would be a test to show that they're "doing something" about the drug "problem," but in actuality no test occured.  Nasser mentioned in passing that he took diuretics to Matarazzo, who mentioned it to certain IFBB officials, and based on that they took away Nasser's prize money on the basis that he "cheated" just in order to find a scapegoat and show that they're "doing something" about diuretics. 

Ask anyone who competed in the 96 Olympia whether or not an actual test occured, you'll be surprised ;)

Majority of bb-followers consider Nasser as getting third in 96.  Ask 10 bb fans who got 3rd in 96, and most will say "Nasser," not whatever the name of the person is who got 4th prior to Nasser's disqualification.  Also, no one will say "Nasser lost to Levrone in 96 because he got disqualified" lol.

You're just like Nasser so full of shit , no test was done , PROVE IT ! don't rehash what Nasser tells you he's biased as they come what else is he gonna say? and even entertaining this garbage Nasser was an idiot for mentioning to Matarazzo so either way he's a loser

And your proof is ask anyone at the 96 Olympia  ::) PROVE there was no test taken I don't care about hear say or anecdotal evidence , prove there was no test done and prove everyone took them

Nasser's name does NOT appear on ANY list other than the one he has on his own website as a 3rd place winner in 1996 Olympia who cares what the fans say? they don't judge contests


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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #167 on: September 09, 2009, 02:38:30 PM »
What else are you going to say? you can't argue with the facts so when faced with an irrefutable facts cry ' meltdown ' do you even know what a meltdown is? where is the personal attacks? the obscene language ? I mean this is what you're offering us? this is it?  ??? seriously you're making yourself look a LOT worse than I just did

FACT you don't even know Levrone's best is , FACT whenever they faced each other Kevin Levrone soundly beat Nasser 25 to 10 , you only wanna take into consideration when Nasser was beating Kevin ( which was rare ) the FACTS can't be changed out of the two Levrone is the greater bodybuilder of all time

Again YOU don't even know when Kevin's best was , and Nasser beat him ONLY when he was off NOT on the stats confirm this 25 to 10

Again factor in ALL these things and we're not talking about if's or buts or ands we're talking about FACTS

Fact Kevin was a winner right out of the gate , Nasser wasn't
FACT Kevin won a pro show in his first year , Nasser took years , he turned pro in 1990 and didn't win a pro show until 5 years later , FACT Levrone was more competitive at the start , middle and end of his career ALL factors considered not just cherry picking like you

NO he didn't sorry slick you can't rewrite history , 199 Mr Olympia Nasser was DQ he has NO placing i.e. he did NOT beat Kevin Levrone he did NOT beat Flex Wheeler , Nasser agreed in 1996 as did ALL the competitors that not only would they lose their contest placings but they would also forfeit their contest earnings , Nasser knew he cheated he doesn't exist at the 199 Mr Olympia with the exception of an asterisk saying he was disqualified for cheating , he did NOT beat anyone in 1996

like Hulkster you can't touch the facts you look for diversions like claiming ' meltdown '  ::) from him that was expected from you it shows how desperate you've become because you're not good enough ( ironically like your hero ) to compete with me so look for another way out


Kevin Levrone is the superior bodybuilder compared to Nasser , case closed. 


 


Whoa ! as the creator of this thread I am proud of the passion that Big Bobs ad N Diety have shown in defending their respective BB's, the passion, wasted time errr research that it must have taken to go back and forth with the stats is truely outstanding.  I don't even think Nasser and Kevin went that hard against each other in stage.  Even though I am a Kevin fan you cannot dismiss Nasser as being average, I believe that for period of 4 years Nasser was top 2-3 in the world, Kevin was Top 2-3 for about 6 years so they both were great but based on the stats Kevin wins overall.  So who will give up first out of these stubborn and highly intelligent posters?  So far N Diety has a bit of an edge in terms of arguements but I have faith in my friend Big Bobs to come back and sway the masses.   :D

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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #168 on: September 09, 2009, 02:43:06 PM »
1997 ALONE Nasser faced Kevin 8 times and lost 7 of them , this was the same year he placed second at the Olympia and many consider his best year NOT Kevin's  ;D

1998 Nasser faced Kevin 3 times and lost 2 of them , a year BigBobs claims was among his best , yet he entered 4 contests and didn't win ANY of them

1999 Nasser faced Kevin 4 times and lost 3 of them , a year BigBobs claims was among his best

hahahahahahhaahahah Kevin killed him at Nasser's best years , wanna keep going Bobs?  ;D  ;) I enjoy correcting people ask Hulkster

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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #169 on: September 09, 2009, 02:45:58 PM »
1997 ALONE Nasser faced Kevin 8 times and lost 7 of them , this was the same year he placed second at the Olympia and many consider his best year NOT Kevin's  ;D

1998 Nasser faced Kevin 3 times and lost 2 of them , a year BigBobs claims was among his best , yet he entered 4 contests and didn't win ANY of them

1999 Nasser faced Kevin 4 times and lost 3 of them , a year BigBobs claims was among his best

hahahahahahhaahahah Kevin killed him at Nasser's best years , wanna keep going Bobs?  ;D  ;) I enjoy correcting people ask Hulkster


BOOM ! Diety delivers the final blow, will Bobs survive ? I have still have faith in Bobs that he can recover but the above may have delivered the winning blow in this arguement, the ball is in Big Bobs court now   :o

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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #170 on: September 09, 2009, 02:49:38 PM »
What else are you going to say? you can't argue with the facts so when faced with an irrefutable facts cry ' meltdown ' do you even know what a meltdown is? where is the personal attacks? the obscene language ? I mean this is what you're offering us? this is it?  ??? seriously you're making yourself look a LOT worse than I just did

FACT you don't even know Levrone's best is , FACT whenever they faced each other Kevin Levrone soundly beat Nasser 25 to 10 , you only wanna take into consideration when Nasser was beating Kevin ( which was rare ) the FACTS can't be changed out of the two Levrone is the greater bodybuilder of all time

Again YOU don't even know when Kevin's best was , and Nasser beat him ONLY when he was off NOT on the stats confirm this 25 to 10

Again factor in ALL these things and we're not talking about if's or buts or ands we're talking about FACTS

Fact Kevin was a winner right out of the gate , Nasser wasn't
FACT Kevin won a pro show in his first year , Nasser took years , he turned pro in 1990 and didn't win a pro show until 5 years later , FACT Levrone was more competitive at the start , middle and end of his career ALL factors considered not just cherry picking like you

NO he didn't sorry slick you can't rewrite history , 199 Mr Olympia Nasser was DQ he has NO placing i.e. he did NOT beat Kevin Levrone he did NOT beat Flex Wheeler , Nasser agreed in 1996 as did ALL the competitors that not only would they lose their contest placings but they would also forfeit their contest earnings , Nasser knew he cheated he doesn't exist at the 199 Mr Olympia with the exception of an asterisk saying he was disqualified for cheating , he did NOT beat anyone in 1996

like Hulkster you can't touch the facts you look for diversions like claiming ' meltdown '  ::) from him that was expected from you it shows how desperate you've become because you're not good enough ( ironically like your hero ) to compete with me so look for another way out


Kevin Levrone is the superior bodybuilder compared to Nasser , case closed. 


 

I said "Meltdown" due to the length  of your posts and the exaggerated comments you use - its obvious when you make exaggerated claims like, "Its not even close!"  that you're getting irritated!

You can't prove who is a better bodybuilder with stats, unless the difference is so significant such a top tier pro versus a third tier pro who never came close in any contest they both competed in, and that's not the case here.  The fact that they've both beat each other many times itself shows it is a close comparison.  If we're going by stats then I can use the stat that Nasser got top 3 in 29 of 31 consecutive shows over 4 years (with only two 4th placings) and argue that Levrone never had such a consistent streak over his career and would dip below 3rd and 4th during 31 consecutive shows.  The fact that stats can be used in either's favour also shows its a close comparison.

The comparison is subjective and we can probably go for thousands of posts and years like you and Hulkster have.  Personally I don't have the passion to do so.  I believe Nasser is a greater bodybuilder than Kevin, and you can believe Kevin is.

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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #171 on: September 09, 2009, 02:49:55 PM »
Holy Fuck ND is just blasting the hell out of bob the schmoe.

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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #172 on: September 09, 2009, 02:50:42 PM »

BOOM ! Diety delivers the final blow, will Bobs survive ? I have still have faith in Bobs that he can recover but the above may have delivered the winning blow in this arguement, the ball is in Big Bobs court now   :o

Correction :  The balls are in Bigknobs mouth, where they have always been

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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #173 on: September 09, 2009, 02:53:58 PM »
Holy Fuck ND is just blasting the hell out of bob the schmoe.

The only thing he's blasting is the back of your throat from the dick-sucking going on with your post here  ;D

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Re: Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?
« Reply #174 on: September 09, 2009, 02:54:49 PM »
I said "Meltdown" due to the length  of your posts and the exaggerated comments you use - its obvious when you make exaggerated claims like, "Its not even close!"  that you're getting irritated!

You can't prove who is a better bodybuilder with stats, unless the difference is so significant such a top tier pro versus a third tier pro who never came close in any contest they both competed in, and that's not the case here.  The fact that they've both beat each other many times itself shows it is a close comparison.  If we're going by stats then I can use the stat that Nasser got top 3 in 29 of 31 consecutive shows over 4 years (with only two 4th placings) and argue that Levrone never had such a consistent streak over his career and would dip below 3rd and 4th during 31 consecutive shows.  The fact that stats can be used in either's favour also shows its a close comparison.

The comparison is subjective and we can probably go for thousands of posts and years like you and Hulkster have.  Personally I don't have the passion to do so.  I believe Nasser is a greater bodybuilder than Kevin, and you can believe Kevin is.

If you want to break it down physically,

Kevin had no weaknesses... massive, symmetrical physique with great lines

Nasser a shit back and synthol in his bi's and delts.  plus his head was too big, he smelled awful and he wore glasses and was bald