Who is considered the greater all time BB, Nasser or Kevin ?

[bigbobs]

Flex Magazine Oct 2004

RANT! Nasser hates stupid questions

 NASSER EL SONBATY hasn't been happy with his placings at bodybuilding shows of late. In May, EI Sonbaty, who once was accustomed to top-tier placings, finished 15th at the Night Of Champions. He's hoping to rectify that at the GNC Show of Strength this fall.

In the meantime, he had a few definitive statements to make. "I think I'm being unfairly compared to my best-ever look of 1997. But judges should judge in the present, not in the past. They should only compare competitors to other competitors onstage at that competition, not to the way bodybuilders have looked in the past."

On the subject of when he plans to retire, EI Sonbaty is anything but near retiring. "I'm tired of being asked that stupid question. I don't know. Do you know when you're going to retire? Or when you're going to die? Or when you're going to have children? When I know I'm going to retire, I'll announce it, but until then, I don't know." Other subjects to avoid with him include how many chicken breasts he eats and how much he bench presses. You've been warned.

"I think I'm being unfairly compared to my best-ever look of 1997.



his own words

Interesting, however he definitely did not say his best ever look was at the 97 GP shows which you're referring to.  He beat Kevin at the Olympia and (AC?) that year (not sure if Levrone was in that show) but would have lost anyway as Nasser was stronger at the 97 AC than 97 Olympia.  In contrast Nasser beat Levrone in every single 96 Grand Prix show (and I think 98 too?) - so not sure why you're trying to say that he was at his best at the 97 GP shows.

Also not sure if he was referring to his best placing (97 Olympia) or his best showing - Flex mag has a way of misinterpreting at times.  I could see him saying 97 was his best placing.   I place more reliance on what Nasser said to me in person (he didnt say 97 Olympia was his best showing, nor did he say it wasn't when I asked him), than what Flex claims he told them.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Interesting, however he definitely did not say his best ever look was at the 97 GP shows which you're referring to.  He beat Kevin at the Olympia and (AC?) that year (not sure if Levrone was in that show) but would have lost anyway as Nasser was stronger at the 97 AC than 97 Olympia.  In contrast Nasser beat Levrone in every single 96 Grand Prix show (and I think 98 too?) - so not sure why you're trying to say that he was at his best at the 97 GP shows.

Also not sure if he was referring to his best placing (97 Olympia) or his best showing - Flex mag has a way of misinterpreting at times.  I could see him saying 97 was his best placing.   I place more reliance on what Nasser said to me in person (he didnt say 97 Olympia was his best showing, nor did he say it wasn't when I asked him), than what Flex claims he told them.

Interesting, however he definitely did not say his best ever look was at the 97 GP shows which you're referring to.  He beat Kevin at the Olympia and (AC?) that year (not sure if Levrone was in that show) but would have lost anyway as Nasser was stronger at the 97 AC than 97 Olympia.  In contrast Nasser beat Levrone in every single 96 Grand Prix show (and I think 98 too?) - so not sure why you're trying to say that he was at his best at the 97 GP shows.

Flex beat him at the Arnold Classic , Kevin didn't compete and it doesn't matter if he didn't look his absolute best at the Grand Prix's Kevin beat him 7 out of 8 times in a year he proclaimed he was at his best , never specified a show just a year

Also not sure if he was referring to his best placing (97 Olympia) or his best showing - Flex mag has a way of misinterpreting at times.  I could see him saying 97 was his best placing.   I place more reliance on what Nasser said to me in person (he didnt say 97 Olympia was his best showing, nor did he say it wasn't when I asked him), than what Flex claims he told them.

Oh Flex gets things wrong lmao his own words and not even Kevin's best and he just destroyed him contest in and contest out , many consider 97 Nasser's best he looked awesome that year either way Kevin still beat him a LOT that year

[Sherief Shalaby]

Flex Magazine Oct 2004

RANT! Nasser hates stupid questions

 NASSER EL SONBATY hasn't been happy with his placings at bodybuilding shows of late. In May, EI Sonbaty, who once was accustomed to top-tier placings, finished 15th at the Night Of Champions. He's hoping to rectify that at the GNC Show of Strength this fall.

In the meantime, he had a few definitive statements to make. "I think I'm being unfairly compared to my best-ever look of 1997. But judges should judge in the present, not in the past. They should only compare competitors to other competitors onstage at that competition, not to the way bodybuilders have looked in the past."

On the subject of when he plans to retire, EI Sonbaty is anything but near retiring. "I'm tired of being asked that stupid question. I don't know. Do you know when you're going to retire? Or when you're going to die? Or when you're going to have children? When I know I'm going to retire, I'll announce it, but until then, I don't know." Other subjects to avoid with him include how many chicken breasts he eats and how much he bench presses. You've been warned.

"I think I'm being unfairly compared to my best-ever look of 1997.



his own words

so what?? after mr. olympia 96 dorian mentioned in flex magazine also that he looked better than his shape of 95!!.. now after a lot of years he has changed his mind..

[NarcissisticDeity]

so what?? after mr. olympia 96 dorian mentioned in flex magazine also that he looked better than his shape of 95!!.. now after a lot of years he has changed his mind..

I think in certain areas of his physique he looked better but he's said as well as many experts 1995 was his best showing along with 1993 , every year after a contest a guy says he was better than the next year but when at the end of their careers they have time to think it through 

are you saying Nasser changed his mind? I mean this was 2004 he said this and a lot of experts agree 1997 is his best , it doesn't matter because Kevin beat him a HELL of a lot more than Nasser beat him 

[bigbobs]

Flex beat him at the Arnold Classic , Kevin didn't compete and it doesn't matter if he didn't look his absolute best at the Grand Prix's Kevin beat him 7 out of 8 times in a year he proclaimed he was at his best , never specified a show just a year

Oh Flex gets things wrong lmao his own words and not even Kevin's best and he just destroyed him contest in and contest out , many consider 97 Nasser's best he looked awesome that year either way Kevin still beat him a LOT that year

OMG ND your desperation knows no bounds, now you're playing with semantics to try to suggest that Nasser himself feels his best showings were during the 97 GP shows even though he placed 1st in many 96 GP shows and placed ahead of Levrone in every show that year. 

[bigbobs]

so what?? after mr. olympia 96 dorian mentioned in flex magazine also that he looked better than his shape of 95!!.. now after a lot of years he has changed his mind..

hahaha, brutal ownage of ND!!

I think in certain areas of his physique he looked better but he's said as well as many experts 1995 was his best showing along with 1993 , every year after a contest a guy says he was better than the next year but when at the end of their careers they have time to think it through 

 

[Sherief Shalaby]

me today in my home gym (without worming up)

[NarcissisticDeity]

OMG ND your desperation knows no bounds, now you're playing with semantics to try to suggest that Nasser himself feels his best showings were during the 97 GP shows even though he placed 1st in many 96 GP shows and placed ahead of Levrone in every show that year. 

Nasser's own words "I think I'm being unfairly compared to my best-ever look of 1997. how am I playing semantics? I never said he was at his best at the GPs I said it doesn't matter because he lost a LOT to Kevin that year , a year in which HE suggested was his best .

perhaps 1996 was his best he won a few shows and looked good  , it certainly wasn't Kevins 

[Mr Nobody]

me today in my home gym (without worming up)

Impressive Sheriff nice bi's that towel needs washing  

[NarcissisticDeity]

hahaha, brutal ownage of ND!!

 

That's what you call brutal ownage? like your ill-issued meltdown please some back when you have something of value to offer

and Ronnie said 1999 he was better than 1998 , at the close of career he said on multiple occasions he was much better in 1998 which ironically many experts feel was his best Olympia showing

[NarcissisticDeity]

me today in my home gym (without worming up)

How tall are you?

[Sherief Shalaby]

Impressive Sheriff nice bi's that towel needs washing  

although i washed it last year ................

[Sherief Shalaby]

How tall are you?

171 cm 

[Mr Nobody]

although i washed it last year ................

LMAO nice job

[bigbobs]

me today in my home gym (without worming up)

Wow!  Amazing front double biceps shot Sherief!  Showing great improvements and definitely the best natural physique on getbig!

[tendonitis]

me today in my home gym (without worming up)

where do you keep your backpack full of dynamite?

[bigbobs]

and Ronnie said 1999 he was better than 1998 , at the close of career he said on multiple occasions he was much better in 1998 which ironically many experts feel was his best Olympia showing

Just reinforces the point that because Flex mag reports a pro that claims a certain show was their best isn't always their final opinion  Nasser's most recent claim (to me) was that he was unsure of which was his best showing, and hinted that it may be one of his Arnold Classic or 96 shows.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Just reinforces the point that because Flex mag reports a pro that claims a certain show was their best isn't always their final opinion  Nasser's most recent claim (to me) was that he was unsure of which was his best showing, and hinted that it may be one of his Arnold Classic or 96 shows.

Okay let me know when he says it's NOT 1997  until then we'll stick with that. I personally think he looked better around 250 pounds his waist was svelte and his back was much better at his first pro win at 268 pounds

still means nothing because 1996 wasn't Kevin's best year 

[Sherief Shalaby]

Wow!  Amazing front double biceps shot Sherief!  Showing great improvements and definitely the best natural physique on getbig!

many thx bro. i train good these days and i am expecting to look much better than this by the end of the year..

yes like nasser my FDB is great (just kidding)

[Sherief Shalaby]

where do you keep your backpack full of dynamite?

in your mother's big ass

[regmac]

Discuss.

I vote Kevin  but Nasser's a good person!!!

[Tyr]

Nasser's own words "I think I'm being unfairly compared to my best-ever look of 1997.

Using nassers own words to prove  bobs wrong...that's gotta hurt.    


Bobs is like a dying animal trying to muster up what little defense he has left and failing.

Precision shooting by ND as always.

[Sherief Shalaby]

Using nassers own words to prove  bobs wrong...that's gotta hurt.    


Bobs is like a dying animal trying to muster up what little defense he has left and failing.

Precision shooting by ND as always.

actually you are like a dying dog who is trying to survive after being humiliated and exposed many times by team nasser

ND used nasser's words to show that nasser believes his best was at mr. olympia 97 and not at other shows as bobs had said!!.. so how come to consider this as proving bobs wrong you asshole!!.. it’s all about opinions, bobs said his own opinion which may not be the same as nasser’s own opinion.. I too agree with bobs that nasser had better shows than the Olympia 97.. so what mr. stupid? ..

[Sherief Shalaby]

nasser is good....
but kevin is a lot better...
built better..no amount of size can change that
kevin wins

Kevins whole lower body was weak in comparison to nasser’s.. nasser’s quads, hams, and calves were all clearly better and bigger than kevins..

As for the upper body both had weaknesses,.. nasser’s lacked details in his back although he had a good size and width in this area while on the contrary Kevin had a well detailed back (still not like flex wheeler or shawn ray) but needed a thicker and bigger one to go with his massive arms and shoulders.. this is why his lats always looked relatively small from the front (like flex wheeler).. kevin also needed a bigger and wider chest, you always see his arms and shoulders oversizing  his chest in the MM pose.. on the other hand nasser’s chest was massive and sick and went very good with his massive big shoulders and arms.. another weakness in levrone is his biceps, from the front it looked flat and lacked definitions, I made a thread before showing that even dorian’s biceps (of course the untorn one) looked better than kevin’s from the front..

imo when bother were a their best nasser had a better and more complete phsique and his fan base at its best was bigger than kevin’s at anytime in his career.. sure kevin deserved to be mr. Olympia (in 2000 and 2002) but he was never a popular choice to be mr. Olympia the same way as nasser was in 1996 and 1997.. but career wise sure kevin had a better one as he won more titles and stayed in the top 6 of mr. olympia for more years!!..

[Karpaasi]

Sure, Nasser was really popular back in the day but so was Kevin. Both of these guys were fan favorites so comparing them at that genre is hard and pointless.