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Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« on: September 03, 2009, 08:50:29 AM »
Congressman stays on message - freedom at risk
By BLAKE AUED  |  blake.aued@onlineathens.com  |  Story updated at 12:12 am on 9/3/2009


 
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MADISON - U.S. Rep. Paul Broun is again raising the specter of Democrats turning the United States into a totalitarian state.

Broun, R-Athens, apparently has not changed his belief that President Obama may be a fascist since he made similar remarks in Augusta in November and then in an Associated Press interview.

He told a meeting of the Morgan County Republicans on Wednesday night that Obama already has or will have the three things he needs to make himself a dictator: a national police force, gun control and control over the press.

"He has the three things that are necessary to establish an authoritarian government," Broun said. "And so we need to be ever-vigilant, because freedom is precious."

As he did when comparing Obama to Hitler and the Soviets last year, Broun cited a speech Obama gave in Colorado during the campaign last July calling for "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" as the military.

In the speech, Obama called young Americans to serve both at home and abroad, and said he would expand the Peace Corps, AmeriCorps and other volunteer opportunities. Broun, however, said Obama was referring to a national police force.

"'The liberals say, 'What is wrong with Americorps?' " Broun said. "Well, this is not Americorps."

Broun also said he thinks the national media is openly supporting Obama's policies. He also said he believes the president and Attorney General Eric Holder will enact new gun-control policies.

Holder said in February that he wants to renew a Clinton-era ban on assault weapons, but Obama said in April that he is putting the issue on the back burner.

Broun also cited the dozens of so-called "czars" Obama has appointed to oversee areas like the troubled car industry as evidence that he is overstepping his bounds to seek power.

"They're developing a shadow government that (does not) answer to the American people," Broun said.


At a town hall meeting in Clarkesville last month, Broun called Obama, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid a "socialistic elite" and agreed with a constituent who said they might use a flu pandemic to declare martial law.

"They're trying to develop an environment where they can take over," Broun said. "We've seen that historically."

More than 1,000 people combined turned out to hear Broun speak mostly on the topic of health care at town hall meetings Wednesday in Madison and Greene County.

About 300 attended the Madison meeting. At Lake Oconee, the audience filled three 300-seat movie theaters, where Broun spoke on the invitation of three local doctors who have been giving presentations on Democrats' proposals for health care reform, said Bob Cowles, one of the organizers. Broun spoke live in one theater, while crowds in the other two listened in over a closed circuit.

Health care reform also is about Democrats seeking more power, Broun said.

"It gives them more power, more control over your life," he said.

Health care is too expensive, he said, and he attributed the cost to government regulations like HIPPA, a 1996 patient privacy and insurance portability law. Rather than create a government-run insurance program to compete with private insurers, the current system's framework should be kept, but with changes like expanded tax-free health savings accounts, more tax credits for medical expenses and tax breaks for doctors who provide charity care, Broun said.

"Just like (when) you have a dog with fleas, you don't kill the dog, you put on a flea collar," he said.

Broun has scheduled another town hall meeting for 10 a.m. Tuesday at the Oconee County Civic Center.

Originally published in the Athens Banner-Herald on Thursday, September 03, 2009

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If he is saying this, you know there are other congressmen talking privately amongst themselves about this. 

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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2009, 09:26:35 AM »
I thought we already had a shadow government with Cheney?

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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2009, 09:30:19 AM »
I thought we already had a shadow government with Cheney?
guess that makes it ok then...

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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2009, 09:38:09 AM »
guess that makes it ok then...

did I say that?


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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2009, 09:42:50 AM »
did I say that?



Ha! 

Like you have EVER said a damn thing about any of the usurpations of the Obama admn. 

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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2009, 09:44:50 AM »
Ha! 

Like you have EVER said a damn thing about any of the usurpations of the Obama admn. 


I've critized the Obama Administration many many times on this board

maybe you haven't noticed because you're too busy posting your 50 daily anti-Obama threads

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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2009, 09:46:37 AM »

I've critized the Obama Administration many many times on this board

maybe you haven't noticed because you're too busy posting your 50 daily anti-Obama threads

I have never posted more than 49 in one day and you know it!   :o :o :o

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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2009, 09:47:06 AM »

I've critized the Obama Administration many many times on this board

maybe you haven't noticed because you're too busy posting your 50 daily anti-Obama threads
the only thing ive seen you criticize obama on is that he isnt liberal enough  ::)

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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2009, 09:52:14 AM »
the only thing ive seen you criticize obama on is that he isnt liberal enough  ::)

Off the top of my head I've criticized him for continuing some policies of the Bush Admin and even expandnig on some of them and for that stupid beer summit. 

I'm sure I could think up a long list if I actually cared

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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2009, 09:56:47 AM »
all of a sudden the shadow government is a new thing under Obama ::)  WOW...

Jesus this gets more sureal every day ::)

If I had to sum up 2009 in politics, I would say it's the year I watched two deaf dumb and blind gimps maul eachother to death.

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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2009, 09:57:59 AM »
all of a sudden the shadow government is a new thing under Obama ::)  WOW...

Jesus this gets more sureal every day ::)

If I had to sum up 2009 in politics, I would say it's the year I watched two deaf dumb and blind gimps maul eachother to death.

hahahahahaha

this is hilarious.  They're all CTers now.

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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2009, 09:59:07 AM »
all of a sudden the shadow government is a new thing under Obama ::)  WOW...

Jesus this gets more sureal every day ::)

If I had to sum up 2009 in politics, I would say it's the year I watched two deaf dumb and blind gimps maul eachother to death.
;D

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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2009, 10:51:14 AM »
The point is that the government must answer to the people.  One of the only times I am supportive of the government being secretive is in specific military plans (for obvious reasons).  Otherwise, we must put a halt on bigger, more controlling government.

I think Cheney was guilty of this as well, just in a different way.

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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2009, 12:20:22 PM »
The point is that the government must answer to the people.  One of the only times I am supportive of the government being secretive is in specific military plans (for obvious reasons).  Otherwise, we must put a halt on bigger, more controlling government.

I think Cheney was guilty of this as well, just in a different way.
my point is I'm once again totally amazed at how the right only asked wtf when a dem is at the helm.  I'm quite frankly fucking disgusted with seeing this over and over.

Listen you fuckers, if you didn't give a shit when it was happening under your man, you enabled this you idiot.  You make it ten times more likely that it becomes standard for the next president and exploited to a greater degree.  I'm so so so sick of seeing this shit years and even decades after it's to fucking late >:(

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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2009, 04:18:30 PM »
my point is I'm once again totally amazed at how the right only asked wtf when a dem is at the helm.  I'm quite frankly fucking disgusted with seeing this over and over.

Listen you fuckers, if you didn't give a shit when it was happening under your man, you enabled this you idiot.  You make it ten times more likely that it becomes standard for the next president and exploited to a greater degree.  I'm so so so sick of seeing this shit years and even decades after it's to fucking late >:(

Correct on all counts.  It's like 20 new conspiracy theories a day now.  Suddenly they give a shit.  And when a Repub gets back in, it'll be back to trusting the white house and mocking anyone who questions them.


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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2009, 04:21:49 PM »
Correct on all counts.  It's like 20 new conspiracy theories a day now.  Suddenly they give a shit.  And when a Repub gets back in, it'll be back to trusting the white house and mocking anyone who questions them.



This is coming from a member of Congress, not myself. 

This Van Jones thing has you a little raw no????

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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2009, 04:32:21 PM »
This is coming from a member of Congress, not myself. 

This Van Jones thing has you a little raw no????

nah i haven't paid all that much attention TBH.

Yes, of course all wise govts have a shadow govt in place.  plan B for everything.

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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2009, 04:47:21 PM »
all of a sudden the shadow government is a new thing under Obama ::)  WOW...

Jesus this gets more sureal every day ::)

If I had to sum up 2009 in politics, I would say it's the year I watched two deaf dumb and blind gimps maul eachother to death.

Very good post.

Bush and Cheney defines shadow government and intrusion on privacy.

It's just not serious to claim that things have gotten worse in this area with Obama.

To somehow claim that the civil liberties are being threatened because Obama and not a Republican is in the White House. ???

Obama is a disappointment as far as civil rights goes, let me put it that way.



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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2009, 05:38:45 PM »
I thought we already had a shadow government with Cheney?

Hell, how can one create something that already exists?

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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2009, 05:42:38 PM »
Hell, how can one create something that already exists?

LOL

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Re: Congressman warns that Obama is creating a "Shadow Government"
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2009, 05:52:23 PM »
This is coming from a member of Congress, not myself. 

This Van Jones thing has you a little raw no????
come on, grow a sac 3333.  does it really matter who it came from?  NOOOOO!!!!  We have someone saying it and passing it around and people all over going, OHHHH, Shit, look what Obama is doing now... and now getting all righteous about passing on the info when they were oblivious or more likely didn't give a shit the last time the same info was passed because it was under republican control....

oh but now.... watch out... it's a far left pinko commie at the helm :o  oh dear god we're fucked... waaa waaaa....  guess you all should have listened to these concerns and passed them around when it was actually important to do so.  Maybe you see why I've been willing to say fuck that to a guy I just voted for on some things.