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"Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« on: September 03, 2009, 02:12:36 PM »
'Green Jobs' Adviser's Past Could Stir Trouble for White House at Critical Time
White House green jobs adviser Van Jones' past associations and remarks are stirring controversy at a time when the Obama administration is trying to keep controversy at a minimum. 

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Thursday, September 03, 2009

President Obama's "green jobs" adviser could become a mounting liability for the Obama administration, as the latest revelation about Van Jones shows his belief that the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks may have been an inside job.

Jones joined the "9/11 truther" movement by signing a statement in 2004 calling for then-New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer and others to launch an investigation into evidence that suggests "people within the current administration may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war."

The statement asked a series of critical questions hinting at Bush administration involvement in the attacks and called for "deeper inquiry." It was also signed by former Rep. Cynthia McKinney and Code Pink co-founder Jodie Evans.

The discovery comes after Jones had to apologize Wednesday night for "offensive words" he uttered in February when he called Republicans "assholes." He said the remarks "do not reflect the views of this administration" and its bipartisan aims. 

But such statements just scratch the surface of Jones' past commentary.

He also has consistently leaned on racially charged language, pointing the finger at "white polluters and the white environmentalists" for "steering poison" to minority communities, as he makes the case for lifting up low-income and minority communities with better environmental policy.

A declared "communist" during the 1990s, Jones once associated with a group that looked to Mao Zedong as an inspiration.

Jones' exceptional past is reminiscent of associations noted during the presidential campaign, when then-Sen. Barack Obama doggedly fended off claims that he was tied to radicals and overzealous activists.

But with now-President Obama entering the perhaps trickiest phase of his young presidency -- building the kind of consensus around health care reform that President Clinton could not -- a divisive figure could prove disfiguring.

"In this environment, I think the Obama administration should be very careful of its dealings with anybody who can be labeled communist accurately," said Christopher C. Hull, an adjunct government professor at Georgetown University who runs the public affairs firm Issue Management.

"That's just going to play to the political sensibility that those on the right have that the Obama administration is socialist, literally socialist. ... It is unwise to bring in people who actually do label themselves socialist or communist."

Jones has mellowed considerably since the '90s. In some respects, he is about as mainstream as environmentalists come -- with recognition streaming in from high places over the past few years.

He's won plaudits from former Vice President Al Gore, who declared, "I love Van Jones," in an interview with The New Yorker.

Actor Leonardo DiCaprio penned the write-up on Jones when the presidential adviser was featured in Time magazine's 100 "Most Influential People."

"Steadily -- by redefining green -- Jones is making sure that our planet and our people will not just survive but also thrive in a clean-energy economy," DiCaprio wrote.

Jones was also named one of the magazine's "Heroes of the Environment 2008." He's earned a slew of other recognitions from other publications and institutions. He was even named one of Salon.com's "Sexiest Men Living" in late 2008.

Plus he's the author of the 2008 New York Times best-seller, "The Green Collar Economy."

Now a member of the White House Council on Environmental Quality, his book's central premise is that environmentalism and green jobs can lift up the economy and lift up low-income Americans.

He is the founder of Green for All, which focuses on creating green jobs in poor areas. He helped the city of Oakland pass a "green jobs corps" program in 2007. Green jobs is also one platform of the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, which he co-founded in 1996.

He also co-founded Color of Change, an advocacy group that focuses on black issues, after Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

Jones' history has drifted between mainstream activism surrounding issues of race, poverty and the environment, and activity he has described as "revolutionary."

Originally from Tennessee, Jones graduated from Yale Law School in 1993. But his life took a turn after he was swept up in arrests during a rally following the Rodney King verdict.

Jones has claimed he was monitoring police activity at the time, but that he met people in jail who changed his thinking.

"I met all these young radical people of color -- I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was like, 'This is what I need to be a part of,'" he said in a 2005 interview with the East Bay Express. Jones told the newspaper he stayed in San Francisco, and for the next 10 years worked with a lot of the people he met in jail. Months after the King verdict came down, Jones said, "I was a communist."

At the time he became involved with a group called Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM), which described itself as committed to Marxist and Leninist ideas. He also started putting pressure on police in San Francisco, monitoring and drawing attention to allegations of police brutality. He was quoted accusing the police department of "killing black people."

He became a vocal critic of the federal government during the Bush administration. He and groups he was associated with assailed "U.S. imperialism" after the Sept. 11 attacks and called the assumption that an Arab group was responsible a "rush to judgment." He later co-signed the petition calling for an investigation into government involvement in the attacks. 

For conservative critics, he has -- as Hull warned -- served as a ready target.

"You can't nominate all of these czars ... and then say, well, you know, I'm not responsible for all these people," said conservative commentator Ann Coulter. "People will start to blame Obama."

The White House has voiced great confidence in Jones, announcing in March that the "green jobs visionary" would in his new role advance the goal of improving energy efficiency and tapping renewable resources.

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Unreal.  What a complete disgrace.


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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2009, 02:16:57 PM »
lol.  Give this guy a tin foil hat.  Let's see if Obama finally does the right thing and fires the guy. 

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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2009, 02:55:41 PM »
i would honestly spit in both of your faces.













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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2009, 03:08:16 PM »
33, palin also supports a new investigation.

Is she a "truther" i dont know.

theres a fine line between "truther's" and people who think the original 9/11 commision is poppycock

where do you stand?

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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2009, 03:18:27 PM »
I have never heard Palin blame GWB for 9/11 in this fashion.  Sorry 2nd, I have never heard any person other than 240 and a few zealots claim that.  there is not one shred of evidence to prove their claims.   

I have looked at all the CT theories and none hold any water to me, not because of anything other than a plan of such magnitude could not be pulled off in the way CT theories say. 

All of the CT theories are contradictory and almost always fall on their own weight. 
 

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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2009, 03:20:45 PM »
240 - Grow the heck up. 

You have no problem with an avowed Communist being the "Green Czar" with no accountability to the congress?????












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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2009, 03:47:48 PM »
240 - Grow the heck up. 

i haven't even posted on this thread yet.  dont be a d-bag.

if 911 happened on obama's watch, with all the fishy shit around it, you'd support a new investigation.

so you keep that party politics BS talk.  To me, it's like speaking with a child on this topic.

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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2009, 03:58:04 PM »
240 - you said you would spit at me and Beach.  Did you forget that? 

Anyway, Van jones needs to go asap.  This is getting insane. 

Again - are you ok with an open communist as a Green Czar?

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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2009, 04:12:32 PM »
240 - you said you would spit at me and Beach.  Did you forget that? 

Yeah, your ability to simplify such an issue is just pathetic.  But you have a very child-like understanding of things, and I'm okay with that.  it frustrates me, but I sometimes forget that you have a simpler understanding of things.

Play with your shiny things and beat your chest about how you're "not okay" with so-and-so.  EEverybody here knows that if 911 happened on Obama's watch and there was damn good chance he chose to ignore obvious intel, you'd want a complete investigation.

Go play with your toys.

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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2009, 04:20:37 PM »
Yeah, your ability to simplify such an issue is just pathetic.  But you have a very child-like understanding of things, and I'm okay with that.  it frustrates me, but I sometimes forget that you have a simpler understanding of things.

Play with your shiny things and beat your chest about how you're "not okay" with so-and-so.  EEverybody here knows that if 911 happened on Obama's watch and there was damn good chance he chose to ignore obvious intel, you'd want a complete investigation.

Go play with your toys.

First off - Meltdown

Second - Are you ok with an open communist being the "Green CZar"?   


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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2009, 04:34:28 PM »
First off - Meltdown

Second - Are you ok with an open communist being the "Green CZar"?   

first - great response, you're officially a 14 year old emo kid now

second - you use the word 'communist' and 'traitor' like you're ordering lunch.  they've lost all meaning.  you cry about every minute detail of obama, so we really can't tell what issues are significant and which aren't. 





third - meltdown

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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2009, 04:36:09 PM »
Ha ha - you know I like you 240 - its all good.    Your a good guy. 

On a serious note, Van Jones is an avowed marxist.   He said it himself.   


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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2009, 04:39:56 PM »
Ha ha - you know I like you 240 - its all good.    Your a good guy. 

On a serious note, Van Jones is an avowed marxist.   He said it himself.   

4 years ago, i was a loud truther.  12 or 16 years ago, Beach bum was voting Clinton. 

When did this guy say it?  Also, what is his job title, and how could any marxist policy cause issues?

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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2009, 04:45:01 PM »
4 years ago, i was a loud truther.  12 or 16 years ago, Beach bum was voting Clinton. 


And how are those 2 related?

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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2009, 04:47:53 PM »
And how are those 2 related?

we all have evolving political beliefs.  I don't think 33 was screaming about marxism when he was in 1st grade.   When I see ppl getting grief over things they wrote in college papers in the past, I shrug. 

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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2009, 04:55:37 PM »
we all have evolving political beliefs.  I don't think 33 was screaming about marxism when he was in 1st grade.   When I see ppl getting grief over things they wrote in college papers in the past, I shrug. 

IC.  makes sense.

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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2009, 06:08:27 PM »
sometimes it changes by the week.  Hannity suddenly loves Ron paul, after almost single-handedly sinking his 2008 run :(

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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2009, 07:43:29 PM »
And how are those 2 related?

They're not related.  And my political beliefs did not evolve.   ::)

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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2009, 07:44:00 PM »
IC.  makes sense.

No it doesn't.   :)

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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2009, 08:14:02 PM »
Now he has disavowed the nutty CT stuff.  He still needs to be fired:

Jones on Thursday apologized for offending anyone with the statements he made in the past.

"In recent says some in the news media have reported on past statements I made before I joined the administration - some of which were made years ago," the statement released late Thursday read. "If I have offended anyone with statements I made in the past, I apologize. As for the petition that was circulated today, I do not agree with this statement and it certainly does not reflect my views now or ever."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/03/green-jobs-advisers-past-stir-trouble-white-house-critical-time/

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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2009, 08:20:58 PM »
No it doesn't.   :)

People don't have evolving political beliefs?

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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2009, 08:25:59 PM »
People don't have evolving political beliefs?

Sure they do.  Was referring to the connection between me voting for Clinton (twice) and someone being a nutty conspiracy theorist. 

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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2009, 08:30:33 PM »
Sure they do.  Was referring to the connection between me voting for Clinton (twice) and someone being a nutty conspiracy theorist. 

No I wasn't.

I pointed out you voted Clinton in 92 for quite the liberal ride... then you were a Bush-ie 8 years later.

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Re: "Green Czar" Van Jones was a "9/11 Truther"
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2009, 08:33:22 PM »
No I wasn't.

I pointed out you voted Clinton in 92 for quite the liberal ride... then you were a Bush-ie 8 years later.

Who cares?  Other than you.  That's what independent voters do.  Now if I was a phoney baloney Republican who voted for Clinton, that would be another story.  Still has zero to do with being a nutty conspiracy theorist.  Or whether this particular "czar" should be fired. 

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« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2009, 08:38:25 PM »
Sure they do.  Was referring to the connection between me voting for Clinton (twice) and someone being a nutty conspiracy theorist. 
I wasn't comparing you to nutty CT'er professors  lol