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Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« on: September 04, 2009, 04:00:18 AM »
FROM IRON AGE

Nice honest answer given by one of the greats of the game, and a really good guy, Dave Draper, in his current newsletter when asked about gear:

Q: You've written pretty adamantly against steroid use for
recreational lifters. When you were taking them, what did a
doctor's-supervised cycle consist of? Would competitors use them
year-round or only pre-contest? Pros today seem to have a "more is
better" philosophy, but was it like that in the '60s and '70s?

A: I know as much about steroids as the captain of Primrose High's
Varsity Debating Team (Yeah, right). However, let me take a wild stab
after some reference to the skeletal archives. In the period between
1965 and 1970, I just betcha a reasonable outline would consist of a
12-week cycle of Durabolin injectable (1 cc per week), plus Winstrol
or Anavar or Dianabol in pill form (4-6 tabs a day). Levels would be
higher or lower, according to results, or need, or the rascal's
daring, carefree-ness, ignorance, innocence, desperation, madness,
ingredient availability, ego, mood and so forth.

Every six weeks during the non-competition season, a short and light
cycle might be engaged to sustain muscle and strength and ingredient
effectiveness.

I don't have the slightest clue what the bodybuilders are involved in
today. I haven't cracked a muscle mag since Lee Haney was on a cover
in 1990. I thumbed through the pages. Wow... Cool... Far out... You
know how it is. I just know the concoctions have become exceedingly
generous and complicated, outrageously expensive, immensely effective,
not exactly law-abiding and questionably healthy and possibly deadly.

Today's pros are a subculture amid a subculture in a wild and crazy
world."

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2009, 04:19:36 AM »

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2009, 04:27:28 AM »
the ramblings of a liar...........

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2009, 05:37:44 AM »
old people  ::)

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2009, 05:43:53 AM »
the ramblings of a liar...........

Here is what you should have written.

The writings of a legend & one of the very few honest men in this sub-culture..


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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2009, 05:45:44 AM »
Here is what you should have written.


a complete load of sh.it



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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2009, 05:46:50 AM »
The writings of a legend & one of the very few honest men in this sub-culture..
LOL. Honest people lay it out. Dave lost me in the first two sentences.  ;)

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2009, 06:03:28 AM »
Here is what you should have written.

The writings of a legend & one of the very few honest men in this sub-culture..



Really? Dave makes it sound like he juiced a little back in the 60s and 70s and hasn't touched the shit since. But look at the pic. He is "adamant against steroid use for recreational lifters". What is he now? He's not a rec lifter?

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2009, 06:16:36 AM »
Really? Dave makes it sound like he juiced a little back in the 60s and 70s and hasn't touched the shit since. But look at the pic. He is "adamant against steroid use for recreational lifters". What is he now? He's not a rec lifter?
It's called politics. He has to play his politics oon the subject just like in a big company. Do you think the general public understands steroids, their uses and how they work? 80 % of the people on here are ignorant to steroids and their functions so just imagine the general public.

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2009, 06:21:01 AM »
It's called politics. He has to play his politics oon the subject just like in a big company. Do you think the general public understands steroids, their uses and how they work? 80 % of the people on here are ignorant to steroids and their functions so just imagine the general public.
So what explains the apologetic shit spewed by XS!? He's not general public.  :-\

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2009, 06:29:27 AM »
It's called politics. He has to play his politics oon the subject just like in a big company. Do you think the general public understands steroids, their uses and how they work? 80 % of the people on here are ignorant to steroids and their functions so just imagine the general public.

Correct.

In fact, more than 80% of idiots here confuse anabolics with cortico-steroids.

BTW, Draper is a great guy and deserves respect.

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2009, 06:31:07 AM »

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2009, 06:32:27 AM »
Correct.

In fact, more than 80% of idiots here confuse anabolics with cortico-steroids.

BTW, Draper is a great guy and deserves respect.
I'm sure he is, but he does himself, and us, a disservice by his disengenuity.  :-\

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2009, 06:33:23 AM »
I'm sure he is, but he does himself, and us, a disservice by his disengenuity.  :-\

How would that be?

BC you don't believe what he says?

Why would you have any reason to disbelieve him?

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2009, 06:36:56 AM »
No, Moose. Because he was/is a steroid user and dances around the subject. People can handle the truth(es); they just don't much care for being told bald-faced lies. 

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2009, 11:59:28 AM »
How would that be?

BC you don't believe what he says?

Why would you have any reason to disbelieve him?

"In the period between 1965 and 1970, I just betcha a reasonable outline would consist of"

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2009, 12:17:26 PM »
No, Moose. Because he was/is a steroid user and dances around the subject. People can handle the truth(es); they just don't much care for being told bald-faced lies. 
Lol..."lies"....lies make the world go round my friend. You thing your president isn't lying to you? It a political thing. Draper is playing his politics. You have to remember that the general public is as dumb as shit. The general public will ignore the surgeon general's warning on smoking and 20 years later they die of lung cancer. But "steroids" are bad because they are illegal. Joke.

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2009, 01:57:10 PM »

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2009, 02:01:30 PM »
Really? Dave makes it sound like he juiced a little back in the 60s and 70s and hasn't touched the shit since. But look at the pic. He is "adamant against steroid use for recreational lifters". What is he now? He's not a rec lifter?

spot on, and i bet his cycles today put his old cycles to shame.

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2009, 02:08:38 PM »
For all we know, he might be on replacement therapy altogether. :)

Really? Dave makes it sound like he juiced a little back in the 60s and 70s and hasn't touched the shit since. But look at the pic. He is "adamant against steroid use for recreational lifters". What is he now? He's not a rec lifter?
Almost always, yes.

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2009, 02:12:12 PM »
For all we know, he might be on replacement therapy altogether. :)

And replacement therepy is perfectly legal folks. So good for Dave.

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2009, 02:16:09 PM »
And replacement therepy is perfectly legal folks. So good for Dave.

Plus some Humalog from a californian Pharmacy!

No prescription needed for nothing in California!

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Re: Draper on drugs - from ironage.us
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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2009, 02:26:51 PM »
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