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Is this Liberal Cowardice?
« on: September 08, 2009, 04:36:16 PM »
As an atheist, nonbeliever, heathen, or whatever you want to call it, I don't buy into any religion.  Although I don't agree with him politically, I can respect a guy like True Adonis who will butt heads with Muslims and Christians equally.  But I think he's a rare breed.  I don't get the uber liberal love affair with Islam.  I think it's fear.  


Yale Removes Cartoons of Prophet Muhammad From Forthcoming Book, Citing Fears of Violence

Yale University wiped a forthcoming book clean of controversial cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad, fearing the images would cause another outbreak of violence.


Yale University Press, which the Ivy League school owns, removed the 12 caricatures from the book "The Cartoons That Shook the World" by Brandeis University professor Jytte Klausen — which is scheduled to be released next week.

A Danish newspaper originally published the cartoons, including one depicting Muhammad wearing a bomb-shaped turban, in 2005. Other Western publications reprinted them.

The following year, the cartoons triggered massive protests from Morocco to Indonesia. Rioters torched Danish and other Western diplomatic missions. Some Muslim countries boycotted Danish products.

Islamic law generally opposes any depiction of the prophet, even favorable, for fear it could lead to idolatry.

"There is a repeated pattern of violence when these cartoons have been republished,” University Vice President and Secretary Linda Lorimer told the Yale Daily News in August. "The homework for us here this summer was to ask people in positions who could give expert counsel whether there is still an appreciable chance of violence from publishing the cartoons.”

The university said it consulted counterterrorism officials, Muslim diplomats, the top Muslim official at the United Nations and other mostly unidentified experts in making its decision.

Those experts said they had "serious concerns about violence occurring following publication of either the cartoons or other images of the Prophet Muhammad in a book about the cartoons,” University President Richard Levin told key administrators in an Aug. 13 letter, according to the Yale paper.

Those consulted said republishing the images "ran a serious risk of instigating violence," a press spokesman told FOXNews.com in August.


The action taken by the New Haven, Conn., university regarding the book, which looks at how the illustrations caused outrage in the Muslim world, has drawn criticism from prominent Yale alumni and a national group of university professors.

"I think it's horrifying that the campus of Nathan Hale has become the first place where America surrenders to this kind of fear because of what extremists might possibly do," said Michael Steinberg, an attorney and Yale graduate.

Steinberg was among 25 alumni who signed a protest letter sent Friday to Yale Alumni Magazine that urged the university to restore the drawings to the book.

Other signers included John Bolton, a former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations under President George W. Bush, former Bush administration speechwriter David Frum and Seth Corey, a liberal doctor.

"I think it's intellectual cowardice," Bolton said Thursday. "I think it's very self defeating on Yale's part. To me it's just inexplicable."

Cary Nelson, president of the American Association of University Professors, wrote in a recent letter that Yale's decision effectively means: "We do not negotiate with terrorists. We just accede to their anticipated demands."

In a statement explaining the decision, Yale University Press said it decided to exclude a Danish newspaper page of the cartoons and other depictions of Muhammad after asking the university for help on the issue.

"The decision rested solely on the experts' assessment that there existed a substantial likelihood of violence that might take the lives of innocent victims," the statement said.

Republication of the cartoons has repeatedly resulted in violence around the world, leading to more than 200 deaths and hundreds of injuries, the statement said. It also noted that major newspapers in the United states and Britain have declined to print the cartoons.

"Yale and Yale University Press are deeply committed to freedom of speech and expression, so the issues raised here were difficult," the statement said. "The press would never have reached the decision it did on the grounds that some might be offended by portrayals of the Prophet Muhammad."

John Donatich, director of Yale University Press, said the critics are "grandstanding." He said it was not a case of censorship because the university did not suppress original content that was not available in other places.

"I would never have agreed to censor original content," Donatich said.

Klausen was surprised by the decision when she learned of it in July. She said scholarly reviewers and Yale's publication committee comprised of faculty recommended the cartoons be included.

"I'm extremely upset about that," Klausen said.

The experts Yale consulted did not read the manuscript, Klausen said, telling the school newspaper that their opinions were "terribly alarmist." She said she consulted Muslim leaders and did not believe including the cartoons in a scholarly debate would spark violence.

“I have a reputation as a fair and sympathetic observer,” Klausen told the Yale paper. “There’s absolutely nothing anti-Muslim about my book.”

Klausen said she reluctantly agreed to have the book published without the images because she did not believe any other university press would publish them, and she hopes Yale will include them in later editions.

She argues in the book that there is a misperception that Muslims spontaneously arose in anger over the cartoons when they really were symbols manipulated by those already involved in violence.

Donatich said there wasn't time for the experts to read the book, but they were told of the context. He said reviewers and the publications committee did not object, but were not asked about the security risk.

Many Muslim nations want to restrict speech to prevent insults to Islam they claim have proliferated since the terrorist attacks in the United States on Sept. 11, 2001.

Fareed Zakaria, editor of Newsweek International, a world affairs columnist and CNN host who serves on Yale's governing board, said he told Yale that he believed publishing the images would have provoked violence.

"As a journalist and public commentator, I believe deeply in the First Amendment and academic freedom," Zakaria said. "But in this instance Yale Press was confronted with a clear threat of violence and loss of life."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,547572,00.html?test=latestnews

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Re: Is this Liberal Cowardice?
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2009, 04:37:54 PM »
look, you either believe the bible word-for-word, or you're a terrorist.  Pick a side dude.



















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Re: Is this Liberal Cowardice?
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2009, 05:16:34 PM »
yale is liberal?  psycho maybe.

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Re: Is this Liberal Cowardice?
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2009, 05:21:16 PM »
yale is liberal?  psycho maybe.

Literal Biblist, or terrorist.  Which are you, Hugo?

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Re: Is this Liberal Cowardice?
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2009, 05:33:03 PM »
yale is liberal?  psycho maybe.

Yale is not liberal?

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Re: Is this Liberal Cowardice?
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2009, 05:33:58 PM »
Literal Biblist, or terrorist.  Which are you, Hugo?

The actions of the predator circling your house will be determined by your answer :)

I can smell your fear lib.   :D

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Re: Is this Liberal Cowardice?
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2009, 05:48:56 PM »
I can smell your fear lib.   :D

With a name like skip, I'm guessing you're with us. 

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Re: Is this Liberal Cowardice?
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2009, 05:49:47 PM »
It says right in there they removed it for fear of violence. This is the exact reason why we see all the Muslim ass kissing. Sure you may get the Christian wingnut every once in a while that shoots an abortion doctor or something, but you do not see cities full of Christians destroying everything in their path because someone drew a picture of Jesus.
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Re: Is this Liberal Cowardice?
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2009, 05:59:58 PM »
It says right in there they removed it for fear of violence. This is the exact reason why we see all the Muslim ass kissing. Sure you may get the Christian wingnut every once in a while that shoots an abortion doctor or something, but you do not see cities full of Christians destroying everything in their path because someone drew a picture of Jesus.

Exactly what I think.  Criticize a Christian, you get ignored for the most part.  Criticize a Muslim and they'll want to put a foot up your ass.  And, IMHO, there's just too many on the left who are too cowardly to stand up against this crap.

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Re: Is this Liberal Cowardice?
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2009, 06:01:50 PM »
Exactly what I think.  Criticize a Christian, you get ignored for the most part.  Criticize a Muslim and they'll want to put a foot up your ass.  And, IMHO, there's just too many on the left who are too cowardly to stand up against this crap.

Cowardly or just stupid
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Re: Is this Liberal Cowardice?
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2009, 06:02:16 PM »
With a name like skip, I'm guessing you're with us.  

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Re: Is this Liberal Cowardice?
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2009, 06:03:45 PM »
Cowardly or just stupid

When dealing with the hard left, that line starts to blur.   :D

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Re: Is this Liberal Cowardice?
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2009, 06:11:53 PM »
I love that sexy maid look. 

She's wearing a Freedom Maid outfit :)

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Re: Is this Liberal Cowardice?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2009, 06:15:51 PM »
Yale is not liberal?
i've always thought of them as psycho, but not nearly the most liberal.  why are they liberal?  check out the worst of the worst, the most psycho politicians and you'll see Yale seems to be a common theme.  I don't know what the hell they do there but it's wacked.

http://www.freebase.com/view/base/yalebase/views/politicians

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Re: Is this Liberal Cowardice?
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2009, 07:07:26 PM »
i've always thought of them as psycho, but not nearly the most liberal.  why are they liberal?  check out the worst of the worst, the most psycho politicians and you'll see Yale seems to be a common theme.  I don't know what the hell they do there but it's wacked.

http://www.freebase.com/view/base/yalebase/views/politicians


Ouch.  Hard to argue with a list like that.  Definetely don't think they are the "most" liberal.  Not sure what higher level educational institution could claim that moniker.

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Re: Is this Liberal Cowardice?
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2009, 11:15:53 AM »
"I think it's intellectual cowardice," Bolton said Thursday. "I think it's very self defeating on Yale's part. To me it's just inexplicable."


Agree.  Where is the ACLU?   ::)

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Re: Is this Liberal Cowardice?
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2009, 04:41:38 PM »
Agree.  Where is the ACLU?   ::)

In hiding with the rest of the uber libs.