The Senator that shouted out " You Lie" during the Obama Speech

[CalvinH]

my response and commentary to the getbig commentary

i dont remember him saying that. i remember somehting similar though. either way, it was made up of alot of different things. he didnt say it was ONLY made of arguments.

now, that being said, i shouldnt have responded to you at all. because the issue you are bringing up really has nothing at all to do with anything he was talking about. your pulling parts of sentences out of the speach and out of contet, and then trying to imply a idealogical undertone. media spin 101 classis move.
 obama hasnt not at all been what i thought he was going to be. but he is an imporvement from what weve had, and he may not do enough good to pull our country to its full potential, but he will do some good to it. hes going to leave america better than when he came in, which is more than the gop can say during their last 12 years of presidencies. obama fucing up the freeedom? america is hardly the most free country in the world. if you mean corporate freedoms? well yes out of the industrialized countries, america really does have the most freedoms for large sized business and corporations.  but for the majority of people who live under a government freedom doesnt refer to economic freedoms, but to social freedoms.as far as the everyday citizens freedoms go, america is probably the most restrictive goverment of all the industrialized countries... barring some muslim countries and north korea. obama will increase americans freedoms for the most part. he will increase rules and regulations in the economic sector, he has already started to. but most of the new legislation doesnt breach any inherent freedoms... just things which american business has had the privilidge of doing up untill now (unfairly so).
this is a perfect example of exactly what is horrible with "politics" today. complete fabrications are given light in the media and in the congress. people look for things to accuse their political rivals of, things that would look as if they could be true..   like picking out provisions in a bill that seem to be worded in away that may allow for a dark evil hidden legal loophole..."the president is hiding hyis intentions inside this provision .. he wnats to control everything!!!!!!!!"   yeah... whatever. lol.





on the whole i have to say im dissapointed with obama. he has failed to put forth any serious legislation for shutting down carbon emmisions globaly. he has failed to take the one micro second it would take to sign an endorsement of a federal bill repealing unconstitutional laws telling citizens what they can and can not put in their own bodies. we still are spendign enormous amounts of money on a daily basis funding military operations in the middle east.  addressing healthcare... i think he gave up too easily on universal healthcare. instead he is just trying to get a governemtn health insurance program that would be cheaper than what is out there right now. a one payer system is the only way to go. and it would be cheaper than the system currently in place, especially if he could put some legislation on drug patents that would allow for generic brands to produce very cheap and affordable medicines. the markups on drugs are iinsane, and that is where a alot of the money spent in healthcare goes. also, another reaosn why healthcare is so expensive, is the salaries paid to the medical professionals. the amoutnof qualified surgeons is very low to the demand when compared with other markets. the solution to this one lies in boosting admissions and quality of education , and lowering costs (better yet do like germany and provide totally free university education to all citizens) to all colleges

two things he said tonight=

1. people will be forced to have some kind of insurance, just like how some states force people to have car insurance.  this fries my ass, the governmenbt has absolutely no right whatsoever to legislate that citizens must purchase ANYTHING.. it is completely aginst the basic principles of the constitution and bill of rights.

2. make it illegal for an insurance  provider to deny insurance coverage because of an existing illness. this is complete bullshit. the government doesnt possess the ability to mandate bad business decisions. as a human beign i have the inherent right to invest my money as i see fit... and the government can not force me to give an insurance plan to someone who i know is going to be a big risk for high cost medical operations and drugs... thats just a stupid investment.

Talk to me when you pay taxes

[CalvinH]

freedom of ....stupidity???

I never said it wasn't stupid.

[Gino30]

lots of black loving in this thread

Obama = FAIL

"judge me by those who I surround myself with"


lol

[kiwiol]

Hell, no Nobel Prize is safe with this intellectual giant on the prowl. And I can only assume that his professors are, at this very moment, petitioning to change the tenure system to allow Professor tbombz to join the department without the usual academic rigmarole.   

 

jsut becoz you dont bileive dont mean its not true

There are things going on with the illuminati that would make you shit your pants if you knew. I was held by them for 17 years during whcih they probed my anus non-stop.

Talk to me when you know all this things which will be never

[lax]

history says it'll be a far-right candidate like a Palin.

or this guy, who tried to make a name for himself tonight

shouldn't you be attending to your client's needs instead of dicking around on the internet?

[lax]

POLITICO Breaking News:
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Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.), who yelled out “you lie!’ in the midst of President Obama’s speech before a joint session of Congress, has called the White House to offer an apology to Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.

For more information...http://www.politico.com


YOU DON'T FUCK WITH OBAMA!

Why don't you train your legs?

[The Ugly]

hopefully the GOP puts someone electable on the ticket, not another neocon or religious wingnut.

How about this guy?

[dr.chimps]

jsut becoz you dont bileive dont mean its not true

There are things going on with the illuminati that would make you shit your pants if you knew. I was held by them for 17 years during whcih they probed my anus non-stop.

Talk to me when you know all this things which will be never

Sevastase crossing channels with Debussey!? Now, that would be a mindfuck.   

[kiwiol]

Sevastase crossing channels with Debussey!? Now, that would be a mindfuck.   

You have a point - I shouldn't have included the line about the 17 year probe cause it doesn't fit in there.

Next time...

[Coach is Back!]

POLITICO Breaking News:
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Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.), who yelled out “you lie!’ in the midst of President Obama’s speech before a joint session of Congress, has called the White House to offer an apology to Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.

For more information...http://www.politico.com


YOU DON'T FUCK WITH OBAMA!

I'm learning real quick you're not exactly smartest around here are ya? Are you one of those people who voted for him for the sole reason he's black? Like most, you didn't put alot thought into your vote. You deserve what you got.  

[CalvinH]

I'm learning real quick you're not exactly smartest around here are ya? Are you one of those people who voted for him for the sole reason he's black? Like most, you didn't put alot thought into your vote. You deserve what you got.  

He's not an American.he's from bumblefuck Canada.

[The Showstoppa]

He's not an American.he's from bumblefuck Canada.

Plus he's mildly retarded.

[dr.chimps]

He's not an American.he's from bumblefuck Canada.

Hell, we're not proud of that fact, bro. Keep it on the DL.

[The Showstoppa]

Hell, we're not proud of that fact, bro. Keep it on the DL.

Don't worry doc, we have our fair share here too...

[CalvinH]

Plus he's mildly retarded.

Mildly,now your just being nice.

[The Showstoppa]

Mildly,now your just being nice.

You know me, always looking on the bright side. 

[GigantorX]

SHOULD BE BURNED ALIVE!

Take a hike MattT, adults are talking.

[BM OUT]

it aint england but we do have free speech.  the legislator's outburst confirmed what we already knew....Wilson is an A-hole

So when the filthy scum bag dems had an uproar over GWBs state of the union they were a-holes also right?

[Option D]

freedom of speech you fuckin moron.

so when bush was lying about wmd it would have been cool for someone to shout out you lie..

[George Whorewell]

GWB was always highly respected by all members of Congress during his two term presidency. Also, the public and media respected him in an almost absolute fashion. This disrespect for Obama is very sudden and quite frankly offensive. The only conclusion I can draw is that everyone who criticizes Obama is a racist and is envious of all black men in power, even those in menial positions like the assistant manager at the Vitamin Shoppe by my house.

When Wilson shouted out "you lie", he was really thinking in his head "stupid junglebunny, I dont like you because your black."

Of course there is no evidence of this, but because he is white, republican and criticizes Obama, we all know thats what he meant.

Not only should he apologize, but he should agree to be Obama's butler for 2 months just like the story from the Seinfeld pilot Jerry and George wrote that was aired by NBC. Maybe then Wilson will understand what it means to be black in America.

[Soul Crusher]

GWB was always highly respected by all members of Congress during his two term presidency. Also, the public and media respected him in an almost absolute fashion. This disrespect for Obama is very sudden and quite frankly offensive. The only conclusion I can draw is that everyone who criticizes Obama is a racist and is envious of all black men in power, even those in menial positions like the assistant manager at the Vitamin Shoppe by my house.

When Wilson shouted out "you lie", he was really thinking in his head "stupid junglebunny, I dont like you because your black."

Of course there is no evidence of this, but because he is white, republican and criticizes Obama, we all know thats what he meant.

Not only should he apologize, but he should agree to be Obama's butler for 2 months just like the story from the Seinfeld pilot Jerry and Georgre wrote that was aired by NBC. Maybe then Wilson will understand what it means to be black in America.

Wilson said what the other 534 people in that room know. 

[bears]

so when bush was lying about wmd it would have been cool for someone to shout out you lie..

no just about 20-30 of them booing and hissing.  GWB is still waiting for their apology.  i'm quite sure you have chosen not to remember those speeches.

[George Whorewell]

Really?

You must have graduated at the top of your medical school. 


Also, humans can't breathe under water and hamsters don't have thumbs.

[Soul Crusher]

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/hhs-awards-85-million-obamacare-money-25


HHS: Obamacare-Funded Health Centers for 'Migrants' Won't Check Immigration Status
cnsnews.com ^ | August 10, 2011 | Matt Cover


(CNSNews.com) - The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) announced on Tuesday that it has awarded $28.8 million to 67 community health centers with funds from the Obamacare health reform law.

Of that $28.8 million, "approximately $8.5 million will be used by 25 New Access Point awardees to target services to migrant and seasonal farm workers," Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) Spokeswoman Judy Andrews told CNSNews.com. HRSA is a part of HHS.

Andrews said that grant recipients will not check the immigration status of people seeking services.

“Health centers do not, as a matter of routine practice, ask about or collect data on citizenship or other matters not related to the treatment needs of the patients seeking health services at the center,” Andrews said.

Further, the grant recipients are required to serve "all residents" who walk through their doors.

“The Program’s authorizing statute does not affirmatively address immigration status,” said Andrews. “Rather, it simply states that health centers are required to provide primary health care to all residents of the health center's service area without regard for ability to pay.”

These Obamacare disbursements seem to contradict a claim President Obama famously made in a nationally televised speech to a joint session of Congress on Sept. 9, 2009.

“The reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally,” Obama said then.

When Obama said these words, Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) shouted out from the House floor: "You lie!"



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Looks like he was right. 

[Soul Crusher]

I hope Joe Wilson yells at obama again this year. 

Obama is set to give another lie filled "Bread and Circuses" Chavesqe rant in the Capitol tommorow night and needs to be called out for his bullshit.