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2nd cycle - need advice
« on: September 13, 2009, 07:47:38 PM »
This is my first post.  I've been around here for about a year when I did my first cycle, but I thought I'd get some of the expert's advice before I jumped in again.  Brief history, I'm 39 and I've been working out off and on (mostly on) since I was 15.  All natural until last year.  My first cycle was just Cypionate for 3 months.  It kicked ass and my bench seen new heights and body fat new lows.  The only side effect is the acne.  I still have it on my shoulders and upper back and it's been a year.  I was waiting for it to completely go away before I start back.  It seems like it doesn't flare up nearly as much so I'm jumping back in.  What I have access to is Omnadren, Trenbolone and maybe Winstol.  I'm thinking from what I've read is:
1-12 weeks Omnadren
1-4 weeks Trenbolone
and maybe 8-12 Winstrol
PCT to follow

Does this cycle look correct?

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Re: 2nd cycle - need advice
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2009, 09:15:27 PM »
go omnadren for 12 weeks ok. go trenbolone acetate for 8-10 weeks..300-400mg a week.
winstrol you can do for 8-10 weeks 50mg a day
so go:

500mg omnadren 1-12
400mg trenbolone acet 1-10
50mg d-bol a day 1-4
50mg winstrol a day 5-12
1mg arimidex eod 1-14
hcg for end

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Re: 2nd cycle - need advice
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2009, 11:09:53 PM »
go omnadren for 12 weeks ok. go trenbolone acetate for 8-10 weeks..300-400mg a week.
winstrol you can do for 8-10 weeks 50mg a day
so go:

500mg omnadren 1-12
400mg trenbolone acet 1-10
50mg d-bol a day 1-4
50mg winstrol a day 5-12
1mg arimidex eod 1-14
hcg for end
that is too much tren for too long for a second cycle. i say run the tren from week 2-8, or week 4-10 at 75 mg EOD.

i see nothing else wrong. i would personaly use test E instead of omna's though.

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Re: 2nd cycle - need advice
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 10:05:05 AM »
Why Test E over Omnadren?  That's Test Ethenate?

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Re: 2nd cycle - need advice
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2009, 10:31:13 AM »
Why Test E over Omnadren?  That's Test Ethenate?
omnadren is just overated IMO. i always got much better results from test e.

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Re: 2nd cycle - need advice
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 11:32:13 PM »
Why Test E over Omnadren?  That's Test Ethenate?

yeah, test e is test enanthate.

test e has a long acting ester, omnadren is a test blend...multi ester.

the theory is that the onma is kinda like a time released test...the problem is that your blood levels seem to jump around more.


longer ester....less frequent shots...blood levels plateau longer

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Re: 2nd cycle - need advice
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2009, 06:38:01 PM »
Ok, I got most of my gear for my 2nd cycle. 
30 cc of 250 Test Enthenate
25 cc of Tren
Should I use HGC instead of Clomid/Nolv.?
If so, how should I use it?

Cycle:
500 test week 1-12
? tren week 2-8 (how much tren should I take?)

Thanks for the help.

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Re: 2nd cycle - need advice
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2009, 01:15:18 PM »
I love tren and use it frequently with tes and if I were u I would do 1cc eod with the tes

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Re: 2nd cycle - need advice
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2009, 01:17:34 PM »
yeah, test e is test enanthate.

test e has a long acting ester, omnadren is a test blend...multi ester.

the theory is that the onma is kinda like a time released test...the problem is that your blood levels seem to jump around more.


longer ester....less frequent shots...blood levels plateau longer

If injected eod your blood levels will be more stable than with test e. Susts were designed for more stable blood levels in TRT.

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Re: 2nd cycle - need advice
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2009, 02:07:48 PM »
Ok, I got most of my gear for my 2nd cycle. 
30 cc of 250 Test Enthenate
25 cc of Tren
Should I use HGC instead of Clomid/Nolv.?
If so, how should I use it?

Cycle:
500 test week 1-12
? tren week 2-8 (how much tren should I take?)

Thanks for the help.
500 test 200-250 tren yes get some HCG it will keep your boys dropped and also ease you into the PCT but also keep your clomid and nolva for the PCT one other thing you were saying you have acne flare ups thats because of the high level of estrogen so grab you some anti e

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Re: 2nd cycle - need advice
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2009, 09:08:14 AM »
What kind of anti e?

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Re: 2nd cycle - need advice
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2009, 11:01:37 PM »
This is my first post.  I've been around here for about a year when I did my first cycle, but I thought I'd get some of the expert's advice before I jumped in again.  Brief history, I'm 39 and I've been working out off and on (mostly on) since I was 15.  All natural until last year.  My first cycle was just Cypionate for 3 months.  It kicked ass and my bench seen new heights and body fat new lows.  The only side effect is the acne.  I still have it on my shoulders and upper back and it's been a year.  I was waiting for it to completely go away before I start back.  It seems like it doesn't flare up nearly as much so I'm jumping back in.  What I have access to is Omnadren, Trenbolone and maybe Winstol.  I'm thinking from what I've read is:
1-12 weeks Omnadren
1-4 weeks Trenbolone
and maybe 8-12 Winstrol
PCT to follow

Does this cycle look correct?

You must genetically dispositioned to acne. Is the size your gonna get worth the horrible acne scars? I am lucky  I never got them as a kid or from a cycle .

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Re: 2nd cycle - need advice
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2009, 06:21:15 AM »
You must genetically dispositioned to acne. Is the size your gonna get worth the horrible acne scars? I am lucky  I never got them as a kid or from a cycle .

I have never had any acne at all on my back or shoulders until my first cycle a year ago.  Even after a year, I still get an occational bump now, but nothing like I did after about 2.5 months on my cycle.  Evidently, I do not scare that easily because there is no permenant marks from them.