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House to Discipline Wilson for 'You Lie!' Outburst
« on: September 15, 2009, 11:40:34 AM »
Let me go out on a limb and predict the vote will be along party lines. 

House to Discipline Wilson for 'You Lie!' Outburst
House Democratic leadership has decided to bring a "resolution of disapproval" Tuesday afternoon against Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., for his jeer last week at President Obama
By Chad Pergram

FOXNews.com

Tuesday, September 15, 2009

House Democratic leaders have decided to formally discipline Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., on Tuesday for his jeer last week at President Obama during a joint session of Congress.

The punishment is expected take the form of a "resolution of disapproval," which is a milder version of other more traditional means of congressional discipline like a censure or fine. Wilson can avoid the rap on the wrists by apologizing to his colleagues on the House floor, but Wilson -- who already apologized directly to the White House -- has said that's not going to happen. 

Wilson bellowed "You lie!" at Obama during his address. It's against House rules to call the president a "liar" or accuse him of "lying" when the House is in session.

"We're not the British parliament for a reason," said Kristie Greco, spokeswoman for House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn, D-S.C.,."Ignoring the issue sets a precedent for bad behavior."

Greco described the resolution as "direct" and "non-partisan."

"It goes directly to conduct on the House floor," Greco said.

Most Democrats in the House appear poised to sanction Wilson. But many Republicans argue that since the South Carolina Republican has already apologized, this step is unnecessary. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., opposed punishing Wilson until Clyburn and other Democratic leaders persuaded her to change her mind.

Critics say Democrats are only prolonging the issue and hurting themselves by pushing for further action against Wilson. Republicans may use the Wilson resolution to try to embarrass Democrats Tuesday, by bringing up the alleged ethical lapses of House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y., or Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., or others.

The resolution is "privileged," meaning whenever it is introduced the measure goes to the front of the legislative line. It is unclear who will call up the measure.

A "resolution of disapproval" is not one of the four forms of discipline typically meted out in the House. The most commonly used means of punishment are expulsion, censure, reprimand or fine.

For instance, in 1997, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was both reprimanded and fined for his book deal. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., was reprimanded in 1990 for ethical breaches tied to a male prostitute. Republicans tried to censure Rep. Pete Stark, D-Calif., in 2007 for comments he made on the House floor about President Bush. But Democrats voted to set aside that effort.

A simple majority vote is needed to approve the resolution against Wilson.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/15/house-discipline-wilson-lie-outburst/?test=latestnews

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Re: House to Discipline Wilson for 'You Lie!' Outburst
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2009, 11:59:08 AM »
If the repubs were smart they will not say a word they will ignore the debate and say we have no comment on the situation. Then when asked to vote simply don't.

There has been an apology and an acceptance, no one is buying into this grandstanding bullshit.
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Re: House to Discipline Wilson for 'You Lie!' Outburst
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2009, 12:11:28 PM »
If the repubs were smart they will not say a word they will ignore the debate and say we have no comment on the situation. Then when asked to vote simply don't.

There has been an apology and an acceptance, no one is buying into this grandstanding bullshit.

Thats because Wilson was telling the truth and the typical RATS were not happy that their schemes were exposed.   

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Re: House to Discipline Wilson for 'You Lie!' Outburst
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2009, 12:12:29 PM »
Are repubs mad that Dems are simply enforcing rules for discipline created during the Bush years by a repub congress?

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Re: House to Discipline Wilson for 'You Lie!' Outburst
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2009, 12:15:50 PM »
Are repubs mad that Dems are simply enforcing rules for discipline created during the Bush years by a repub congress?
probably the constant hypocrisy from the left is whats ticking ppl off 240 again they booed and bashed bush during his SOU did anybody get punished?

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Re: House to Discipline Wilson for 'You Lie!' Outburst
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2009, 12:16:34 PM »
Let me go out on a limb and predict the vote will be along party lines.  

House to Discipline Wilson for 'You Lie!' Outburst
House Democratic leadership has decided to bring a "resolution of disapproval" Tuesday afternoon against Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., for his jeer last week at President Obama
By Chad Pergram

FOXNews.com

Tuesday, September 15, 2009

House Democratic leaders have decided to formally discipline Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., on Tuesday for his jeer last week at President Obama during a joint session of Congress.

The punishment is expected take the form of a "resolution of disapproval," which is a milder version of other more traditional means of congressional discipline like a censure or fine. Wilson can avoid the rap on the wrists by apologizing to his colleagues on the House floor, but Wilson -- who already apologized directly to the White House -- has said that's not going to happen.  

Wilson bellowed "You lie!" at Obama during his address. It's against House rules to call the president a "liar" or accuse him of "lying" when the House is in session.

"We're not the British parliament for a reason," said Kristie Greco, spokeswoman for House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn, D-S.C.,."Ignoring the issue sets a precedent for bad behavior."

Greco described the resolution as "direct" and "non-partisan."

"It goes directly to conduct on the House floor," Greco said.

Most Democrats in the House appear poised to sanction Wilson. But many Republicans argue that since the South Carolina Republican has already apologized, this step is unnecessary. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., opposed punishing Wilson until Clyburn and other Democratic leaders persuaded her to change her mind.

Critics say Democrats are only prolonging the issue and hurting themselves by pushing for further action against Wilson. Republicans may use the Wilson resolution to try to embarrass Democrats Tuesday, by bringing up the alleged ethical lapses of House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y., or Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., or others.

The resolution is "privileged," meaning whenever it is introduced the measure goes to the front of the legislative line. It is unclear who will call up the measure.

A "resolution of disapproval" is not one of the four forms of discipline typically meted out in the House. The most commonly used means of punishment are expulsion, censure, reprimand or fine.

For instance, in 1997, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was both reprimanded and fined for his book deal. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., was reprimanded in 1990 for ethical breaches tied to a male prostitute. Republicans tried to censure Rep. Pete Stark, D-Calif., in 2007 for comments he made on the House floor about President Bush. But Democrats voted to set aside that effort.

A simple majority vote is needed to approve the resolution against Wilson.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/15/house-discipline-wilson-lie-outburst/?test=latestnews

Wilson's Wife: 'Joe, Who's the Nut That Hollered Out, 'You Lie'?'




Washington Post Sept 15 2009  By Garance Franke-Ruta
Roxanne Wilson, wife of controversial South Carolina Republican Rep. Joe Wilson, said her first impression of the person who interrupted President Obama's speech to Congress last week was that he was a "nut."

It was only after the speech she learned that nut was her husband.

"Joe called me after the speech on Wednesday night and I said, 'Joe, who's the nut that hollered out, "You lie" or "You Liar"?' " Roxanne Wilson said in a Web video released Tuesday morning by Wilson's congressional reelection campaign.

"And he goes, 'It was me.' And I said, 'No, really, who did it?' I couldn't believe that Joe would say that."

The video is a biographical spot that appears designed as an attempt to soften Wilson's image in advance of a possible House floor vote later today censuring him for his outburst.


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Re: House to Discipline Wilson for 'You Lie!' Outburst
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2009, 12:17:44 PM »
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Re: House to Discipline Wilson for 'You Lie!' Outburst
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2009, 12:27:06 PM »
probably the constant hypocrisy from the left is whats ticking ppl off 240 again they booed and bashed bush during his SOU did anybody get punished?

dude, any dem that screamed something like that should be disciplined too.  I was under the impression that no dems every did that.  Booing and mumbling happens for 2 centuries now, but yelling = discipline, a rule repubs affirmed for 8 years. 

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Re: House to Discipline Wilson for 'You Lie!' Outburst
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2009, 12:41:06 PM »
Punished by their own rules... damn what irony.

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Re: House to Discipline Wilson for 'You Lie!' Outburst
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2009, 12:44:28 PM »
Such a huge difference between booing, hissing, shouting "no" and what this guy did.   ::)

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Re: House to Discipline Wilson for 'You Lie!' Outburst
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2009, 01:01:18 PM »
I hope they do it.Joe Wilson will raise more money then ANY congressman in history if they do.

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Re: House to Discipline Wilson for 'You Lie!' Outburst
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2009, 01:32:33 PM »
Thats fine, but then they have to discipline any congressmen who makes a disturbance.  They are trying to focus all the attention on this, which deserved some time but not nearly this degree.  Wilson appologized the following day.  We need to get our gov back on task to things that really matter.

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Re: House to Discipline Wilson for 'You Lie!' Outburst
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2009, 03:15:15 PM »
Imagine that.  A party line vote.   ::)

House Votes to Discipline Wilson for Outburst
FOXNews.com

Tuesday, September 15, 2009

The House of Representatives, on the heels of an impassioned and lively debate, voted Tuesday to formally admonish Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., for accusing the president of lying during a joint session of Congress a week ago.

The vote was 240-179. Five lawmakers voted "present."

Ahead of the tally, lawmakers hurled an arsenal of accusations at each other over the issue, with Republicans calling the effort a "partisan stunt" and Democrats stepping up their condemnation of Wilson's original offense.

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/15/house-disciplines-wilson-outburst/