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Re: So, how is that 'Hope & Change' working for you all?
« Reply #50 on: September 19, 2009, 01:38:06 PM »
that's not besides the point to me.

dont you find it hypocritical of these filthy rich people spending shitloads of money on themselves and consumes 100 times more materialistic shit than the average person to say that they are fighting for justice/enviroment or whatever crap they 'pledge'. it's hilarious imo.

i like obama but what was the obama administration thinking with that crap

I agree it is all bullshit, but you are still missing the point of the video. Government/elected officials are servants to US...not the other way around. It is a bit 'Hitler-esque' dont you think? Keep your eyes wide open..

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Re: So, how is that 'Hope & Change' working for you all?
« Reply #51 on: September 19, 2009, 01:38:53 PM »
Obama couldn't even place top 3 at a local show

fuck him

That too!!!  >:(  haha

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Re: So, how is that 'Hope & Change' working for you all?
« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2009, 01:40:33 PM »
I agree it is all bullshit, but you are still missing the point of the video. Government/elected officials are servants to US...not the other way around. It is a bit 'Hitler-esque' dont you think?

the entire 08 campaign had a surreal feel to it, millions of idiots drinking the same Kool Aid

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Re: So, how is that 'Hope & Change' working for you all?
« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2009, 01:43:10 PM »
240, What the hell are you talking about? Were still safe from the policies that Bush put into place and Obama is trying to take away. Geez dude!!

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Re: So, how is that 'Hope & Change' working for you all?
« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2009, 01:44:46 PM »
that's not besides the point to me.

dont you find it hypocritical of these filthy rich people spending shitloads of money on themselves and consumes 100 times more materialistic shit than the average person to say that they are fighting for justice/enviroment or whatever crap they 'pledge'. it's hilarious imo.


Sure some may come off that way but some give much more to charities each year than they spend on themselves or their families etc.  You can't tell the totally full story behind someone just by looking at what you see in public.

Also, the making, buying, selling and consumption of "materialistic sh*t" keeps our economy humming.
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Re: So, how is that 'Hope & Change' working for you all?
« Reply #55 on: September 19, 2009, 01:49:46 PM »

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Re: So, how is that 'Hope & Change' working for you all?
« Reply #56 on: September 19, 2009, 01:51:07 PM »
I find it hard to believe that Obama's detractors are not at least a small part motivated by the man's race

his supporters too, I suppose . . .

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Re: So, how is that 'Hope & Change' working for you all?
« Reply #57 on: September 19, 2009, 01:51:11 PM »
240, What the hell are you talking about? Were still safe from the policies that Bush put into place and Obama is trying to take away. Geez dude!!

Why did Bush wait til we were attaced to put those policies into place?

ya can't blame clinton.  Bush spent 5 weeks on the ranch in august ignoring vital hand-delivered intel from our allies.   He didn't get into office, recognize the weakness of the clinton policy, and change it.  He KEPT the dem policy in place.

facts are facts tho.  Proof is in the pudding.  Bush's pudding is 3000 dead that he didn't stop.  Obama's pudding is safety so far.  


Policy-wise, that's a whole nother issue.  Obama's doing a lot of things that are gonna cause long-term dbt issues, i'm not denying that at all.   You absoltely cannot say "Bush kept us safer than obama".  At this point in his presidency, bush had failed to stop the 911 attacks, it's that simple.

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Re: So, how is that 'Hope & Change' working for you all?
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Re: So, how is that 'Hope & Change' working for you all?
« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2009, 01:57:19 PM »

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Re: So, how is that 'Hope & Change' working for you all?
« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2009, 01:58:19 PM »
So don't blame Clinton for having Bin Laden in the palm of his hand more than 10 times and letting him go? Riiiiight!
As for Bush, they get threats everyday (same as Obama) which one do take more seriously than another? But after 9/11 they were all taken seriously and that precisly why we were kept safe for the last 7 1/2 years. Obama is trying to take us back to a pre 9/11 mentality that left us open in the first place. Sorry but diplomacy does't work as Obama has been proving!

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Re: So, how is that 'Hope & Change' working for you all?
« Reply #61 on: September 19, 2009, 02:04:18 PM »
So don't blame Clinton for having Bin Laden in the palm of his hand more than 10 times and letting him go? Riiiiight!
As for Bush, they get threats everyday (same as Obama) which one do take more seriously than another? But after 9/11 they were all taken seriously and that precisly why we were kept safe for the last 7 1/2 years. Obama is trying to take us back to a pre 9/11 mentality that left us open in the first place. Sorry but diplomacy does't work as Obama has been proving!

Clinton was very soft on terror.  So was Bush, until we got attacked.

I don't understand "Obama is soft on terror" when he's not only unleashed the Iraqi national forces to beat the shit out of the insurgents as CNN won't let us (and they are).

And Obama is doubling the number of troops in Afghanistan.  You know, to actually catch bin Laden and kill the taleban who got very strong thru 2008, as you well know.  They now run 80%+ of the country, and they only had 25% of the country in 2005.  Obama ain't having that shit.  He's beating the hell out of them now.  We didn't have the forces there to do that from 05 to 08 because they were cleaning up Iraq.

And he's kept most of the nifty interrogation policies in place.  our guys still do what they want. 


So can you list the exact policies Obama has done to undo the Bush policies?  We're "less safe" now, even though we have MORE troops fighting the bad guys?   I'm confused dude.

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Re: So, how is that 'Hope & Change' working for you all?
« Reply #62 on: September 19, 2009, 02:06:41 PM »
Obama needs to stop acting like a bitch, and act more like a president.

He has 5, yes FIVE interviews on TV today.  Is he running a country or pimping his new album?

Jesus Hussein Christ, get your head out of your ass.

Also, he needs to stop kissing Arabs hands when he meets them. 
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Re: So, how is that 'Hope & Change' working for you all?
« Reply #63 on: September 19, 2009, 02:07:52 PM »

Most of them could probably not name his stance on a single issue.

Howard Stern went around town and read McCain's platform and said it was Obama's to blacks.  All said they agree with it and would vote for "change".
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