i started just before my 20th bday, for an under21 show.. i played it far too safe dose and duration wise and def would have went much further than i did, it doesnt sink in until later that u need to stay on long time with a decent dose to look how your supposed to, the kid who beat me ( who was actualy 22 at the time of winning) told me he hadnt been off for 2yrs, he went on to win the britain, europe etc
i was 19st with out taking any drugs, altho i was quite fat...
these days before i just went back on, i never went under 230 the whole 2yr i was off