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Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« on: September 21, 2009, 07:59:16 PM »
Radicals Wrote Failed Stimulus
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, September 21, 2009 4:30 PM PT


Policymaking: If the stimulus isn't working, perhaps it's because it was largely written by a collection of leftist interest groups called the Apollo Alliance that counts among its directors a co-founder of the Weather Underground.


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The Labor Department reported Friday that 42 states lost more jobs than they gained in August, and that 14 plus Washington, D.C., reported unemployment rates of 10% or more.

Michigan's rate rose to 15.2%, highest in the nation. Nevada, represented by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, is second with 13.2%. California, home of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, is tied for fourth with Oregon at 12.2%.

Clearly, the stimulus bill that no congressman read is not working. As it turns out, no congressman may have written it either. It's largely the creation of a coalition of leftist organizations called the Apollo Alliance, whose primary interests are saving the Earth, environmental justice and redistributing wealth. They are not friends of job-creating capitalism.

On Apollo's Web site, Sen. Reid, whose state also leads in foreclosures, is quoted praising the group of which former green czar Van Jones was a board member.

"We've talked about moving forward on these ideas for decades," Reid is quoted as saying. "The Apollo Alliance has been an important factor in helping us develop and execute a strategy that makes great progress on these goals and in motivating the public to support them."

Jones, the former Oakland, Calif., community organizer and self-avowed communist, was on the board of the Apollo Alliance when he accepted the position in the Obama administration as green jobs czar.

As Phil Kerpen of Americans for Prosperity told Glenn Beck, Jones has "described the Apollo Alliance mission as sort of a grand unified field theory for progressive left causes" that would tie elements of organized labor with community organizers and environmental groups into an outfit that would restructure American society.

Wade Rathke, founder of Acorn, was also on the Apollo board, as is Gerald Hudson, vice president of the Service Employees International Union, which provides the shock troops in the movement to pass government-run health care.

John Podesta, former chief of staff to President Clinton and now president of the leftist Center for American Progress, also sits on the Apollo board. Each day his group sends out talking points to the left side of the blogosphere. Mark Lloyd, diversity czar at the Federal Communications Commission, was a senior fellow at CAP.

According to Kerpen, the Apollo Alliance put together a draft stimulus bill in 2008 that included almost everything in the final $787 billion package. Little did the voters know that the congressmen and senators they would elect would pass a bill written by activist outsiders.

Perhaps the most bizarre aspect of all this is that an even more radical Jones (no relation) has a relationship with the Apollo Alliance. Jeff Jones was a domestic terrorist in the '60s and a fugitive from justice throughout the '70s who, with Bill Ayers, helped found the Weather Underground in 1969.

Ayers, Jones and the Weathermen participated in the violent Days of Rage riots in Chicago and a nationwide anti-government bombing campaign. Like Ayers, Jeff Jones has no regrets, saying: "To this day, we still, lots of us, including me, still think it was the right thing to do."

Today, Jones finds himself director of the Apollo Alliance's New York affiliate and a consultant to the national group. One of his clients is the Workforce Development Institute, a union-controlled organization.

As a consultant to WDI, Jones helps write the grant proposals for federal stimulus dollars — funds authorized in the bill that Apollo helped write — all to ensure that taxpayer dollars end up in the hands of groups that share Apollo's political agenda.

Welcome to government of the activist, by the activist and for the activist.

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Even people who supported this must have wondered how they put that thing together so fast.  It looks like it was already written well in advance even before Obama took office. 

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2009, 08:10:20 PM »
It looks like it was already written well in advance even before Obama took office. 

LOL  welcome to last year's CTs.

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2009, 08:14:33 PM »
LOL  welcome to last year's CTs.

From the article 240:

According to Kerpen, the Apollo Alliance put together a draft stimulus bill in 2008 that included almost everything in the final $787 billion package.

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2009, 08:23:55 PM »
and PNAC wrote the bush admin playbook and populated his whitehouse.

this is news, why? 

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2009, 08:26:33 PM »
and PNAC wrote the bush admin playbook and populated his whitehouse.

this is news, why? 

You dont think its newsworthy that these groups, and not the congress, authored a 760 billion dollar bill we all have to pay for?

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2009, 08:29:06 PM »
You dont think its newsworthy that these groups, and not the congress, authored a 760 billion dollar bill we all have to pay for?

Right.  we all know Bush's wars were freebies, right?

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2009, 08:33:13 PM »
Right.  we all know Bush's wars were freebies, right?

This is not about Bush. 

Geez. 

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2009, 09:12:38 PM »
nothign wrong with a president using a group of people smarter than he write up bills or list ideas.  Bush did it, and now it looks like obama did too.

I'd be MUCH more scared of a bill written by one man very quickly.   If a think-tank writes a bill, whether or not we agree with its content, we have to feel better they weigh all the outcomes, etc.

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2009, 12:08:41 AM »
nothign wrong with a president using a group of people smarter than he write up bills or list ideas.  Bush did it, and now it looks like obama did too.

I'd be MUCH more scared of a bill written by one man very quickly.   If a think-tank writes a bill, whether or not we agree with its content, we have to feel better they weigh all the outcomes, etc.

  I agree partially. It's nice when the President aknowledges that there are plenty of people who are smarter than him and that he could use them to help with policy, but I'd be concerned if those people were far-Left goofballs as the article suggests.

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2009, 04:35:50 AM »
nothign wrong with a president using a group of people smarter than he write up bills or list ideas.  Bush did it, and now it looks like obama did too.

I'd be MUCH more scared of a bill written by one man very quickly.   If a think-tank writes a bill, whether or not we agree with its content, we have to feel better they weigh all the outcomes, etc.

240 - we did not elect a think tank to write a 786 billion dollars labeled as "stimulus." 

I have told you many times, this bill would be a complete failure and not do a damn thing for UE because it is not a "jobs" bill.  When you read articles like this, it becomes obvious why things are not going according to the "official plan" as far as UE goes. 

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2009, 06:29:44 AM »
240 - we did not elect a think tank to write a 786 billion dollars labeled as "stimulus." 
 

Um in 2000 you elected a think tank known as PNAC.  half of Bush's staff was their writers, and they followed that pnac booklet to a tee. 

And they spent way more than 786 billion dude.

So if you don't like it, start your own think tank or run for president.  Cause you can be sure if Mccain had won, he'd be initiating economic or military policy written before jan 20, 2009.  It's how shit works.  Somethign as HUGE as a military or economic policy takes years to write.  And that's a good thing.   You want them having plan B's for everything, and working out plans ahead of time.

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2009, 06:33:17 AM »
Um in 2000 you elected a think tank known as PNAC.  half of Bush's staff was their writers, and they followed that pnac booklet to a tee. 

And they spent way more than 786 billion dude.

So if you don't like it, start your own think tank or run for president.  Cause you can be sure if Mccain had won, he'd be initiating economic or military policy written before jan 20, 2009.  It's how shit works.  Somethign as HUGE as a military or economic policy takes years to write.  And that's a good thing.   You want them having plan B's for everything, and working out plans ahead of time.


Beck is in radio now talking about this and how massive shoes are about to drop on the corruption behind this. 

He says hes got the goods on this moreso than even the ACORN thing. 

And can you please stop by blaming Bush already?  Its pathetic. 


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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2009, 06:53:25 AM »
And can you please stop by blaming Bush already?  Its pathetic. 

what's pathetic is you not understanding obama doing the same things bush did, using the brainpower of others. 

If you think Dubya wrote his own policy, youre smoking something.

And Beck?  Um, he said some pretty interesting things about obama and mccain this weekend which craps all of his credibility anymore. 

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2009, 06:55:25 AM »
what's pathetic is you not understanding obama doing the same things bush did, using the brainpower of others. 

If you think Dubya wrote his own policy, youre smoking something.

And Beck?  Um, he said some pretty interesting things about obama and mccain this weekend which craps all of his credibility anymore. 

Van Jones and members of the weather underground were part of the apollo alliance 240.  i am sure you are ok with that.     

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2009, 07:02:34 AM »
Van Jones and members of the weather underground were part of the apollo alliance 240.  i am sure you are ok with that.     

and cheney and friends wrote pnac.

It is what it is, par for course buddy.

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2009, 07:04:50 AM »
and cheney and friends wrote pnac.

It is what it is, par for course buddy.

So two wrongs make a right because its your guy right 240?

When UE goes to over 10% officially and 17% unofficially and we have to deal with a dollar that is worthless partially because of this, and inflation because of all the printing that was required to finance this, its still ok?   

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2009, 07:10:41 AM »
So two wrongs make a right because its your guy right 240?

I'm telling you every president from washington to infinity is going to have groups writing policy for them.

You're now angry your revelation that obama didn't do his own homework turned out to be par for course. 

Did you know about pnac before this thread?

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2009, 07:14:16 AM »
I'm telling you every president from washington to infinity is going to have groups writing policy for them.

You're now angry your revelation that obama didn't do his own homework turned out to be par for course. 

Did you know about pnac before this thread?

Van Jones and the weather underground is not a think tank. 

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2009, 07:15:13 AM »
Did you know about pnac before this thread?

answer this Q please

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2009, 07:24:32 AM »
clock ticks as you WIKi search it :)

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2009, 07:45:00 AM »
clock ticks as you WIKi search it :)

I heard of it before.  However, stop derailing this thread and start one on that if you want.   

This is about who wrote the fraudulent "Stimulus Bill", not PNAC. 

Now again, are you ok withVan jones and weather underground people writing part of the stimulis bill?

   

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2009, 07:52:58 AM »
I heard of it before.  However, stop derailing this thread and start one on that if you want.   

This is about who wrote the fraudulent "Stimulus Bill", not PNAC. 

Now again, are you ok withVan jones and weather underground people writing part of the stimulis bill?
   

I like to debate the CONTENT of a bill, not the authors.

Tell me, do you have any clue who wrote most of Bush's policy?  No, you don't.  You didn't know what pnac was, or you wouldn't have started this thread.

If you don't like the content of a bill, tell us why that bill sucks.  But being pissed because of the authors = weak.  Do your homework dude.  Clinton probably did it too, and if you think reagan wrote his own bills...

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2009, 07:55:46 AM »
I like to debate the CONTENT of a bill, not the authors.

Tell me, do you have any clue who wrote most of Bush's policy?  No, you don't.  You didn't know what pnac was, or you wouldn't have started this thread.

If you don't like the content of a bill, tell us why that bill sucks.  But being pissed because of the authors = weak.  Do your homework dude.  Clinton probably did it too, and if you think reagan wrote his own bills...

You dont see the difference do you?

The congress passed this bill under false pretenses and they even probably did not know who actually wrote it. 

Did the PNAC write the Patriot Act like the Apollo Alliance wrote the Stim Bill?   

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2010, 08:58:12 AM »
BUMP 

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Re: Who authored the Stimulus Bill?
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2010, 09:02:25 AM »
and PNAC wrote the bush admin playbook and populated his whitehouse.

this is news, why? 


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