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The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« on: September 22, 2009, 10:52:24 PM »
...if eveyone was a conscientious objector... well you can figure out the rest.

Besides, to the best of my knowledge America has never really won a war. So what's the point in dying, or killing third world losers, for multinational corporations profits?



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Alright luke defend your statement

Lets start with the American revolution...

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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2009, 11:09:16 PM »
Alright luke defend your statement

Lets start with the American revolution...

Libs pretty much make up their own reality.

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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2009, 01:19:57 AM »
it's a very odd statement.
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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2009, 01:55:35 AM »
Alright luke defend your statement

Lets start with the American revolution...

How about the largest and toughest war in history...WW2!!!?

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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2009, 02:08:45 AM »
How about the largest and toughest war in history...WW2!!!?
dang right... only we fought in wwii!!! and we had no help in the revolution!!!  booya bitches!

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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2009, 04:14:58 AM »
dang right... only we fought in wwii!!! and we had no help in the revolution!!!  booya bitches!

USA didn't win WWII on its own, in fact Russia was the main factor. But USA was a winner in WWII.

To claim otherwise is just... insane.

Or have I misunderstood everything? ???
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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2009, 05:12:28 AM »
USA didn't win WWII on its own, in fact Russia was the main factor. But USA was a winner in WWII.

To claim otherwise is just... insane.

Or have I misunderstood everything? ???

Gulf War 1? 
War of 1812?
Spanish -American War?
Mexican War?
Bosnia? 
Panama (Mons should know since he fought there?)?
Revolutionary War?
WW2?



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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2009, 05:44:00 AM »
Since the country came into existance we have won every war by a mile.

2 Exceptions: Vietnam= Loss
                   Korea= Tie

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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2009, 05:49:34 AM »
USA didn't win WWII on its own, in fact Russia was the main factor. But USA was a winner in WWII.

To claim otherwise is just... insane.

Or have I misunderstood everything? ???

Very true. But without the U.S., the Russians wouldn't of had the chance to win in the East.

It is also very impressive that the U.S. fought a 2 front conflict and came out on top.

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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2009, 06:18:34 AM »
Very true. But without the U.S., the Russians wouldn't of had the chance to win in the East.

It is also very impressive that the U.S. fought a 2 front conflict and came out on top.

Not for long though...while we did, if it would have lasted any longer it might have been disastrous.  That, and we had help on the other front.

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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2009, 07:34:40 AM »
USA didn't win WWII on its own, in fact Russia was the main factor. But USA was a winner in WWII.

To claim otherwise is just... insane.

Or have I misunderstood everything? ???
yes we did!!!!  wwii was all us.  don;t you watch movies >:( 

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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2009, 07:37:17 AM »
yes we did!!!!  wwii was all us.  don;t you watch movies >:( 

You mean Tom Hanks was not responsible for winning WW2?

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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2009, 07:41:41 AM »
Very true. But without the U.S., the Russians wouldn't of had the chance to win in the East.

It is also very impressive that the U.S. fought a 2 front conflict and came out on top.

Yes.

You're right.

How many percent of the victory "belonged" to USA or Russia, or England, isn't important.

They won. That's what mattered.
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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2009, 07:52:01 AM »
You mean Tom Hanks was not responsible for winning WW2?
I'm pretty sure Mel Gibson defeated the British.

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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2009, 08:14:03 AM »
I'm pretty sure Mel Gibson defeated the British.
single handedly at that  ;D

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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2009, 08:15:31 AM »
You mean Tom Hanks was not responsible for winning WW2?
I just said he was you piss poor attempt at a speed reader. ::)

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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2009, 08:18:16 AM »
I just said he was you piss poor attempt at a speed reader. ::)

I thought you were referring to John Wayne or stuff like that. 

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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2009, 08:23:14 AM »
I just said he was you piss poor attempt at a speed reader. ::)
funny getbig comment of the day 5 points for hugo

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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2009, 08:25:50 AM »
dang right... only we fought in wwii!!! and we had no help in the revolution!!!  booya bitches!

1.You moron, no one said that the US was the only side... actually your whole post is idiotic since a war have to be fought by 2 parties or more.

2.There is no doubt that the Hitler would have conquered all of Europe INCLUDING Russia if the US didn't come in to the war, not to mention that the Japanese would have closed on the Russians from the other direction.


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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2009, 08:59:05 AM »
1.You moron, no one said that the US was the only side... actually your whole post is idiotic since a war have to be fought by 2 parties or more.

2.There is no doubt that the Hitler would have conquered all of Europe INCLUDING Russia if the US didn't come in to the war, not to mention that the Japanese would have closed on the Russians from the other direction.


wow ::)

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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2009, 09:17:39 AM »
I think we killed way more Viet-Cong then the other way around though, like 10:1 I think?

So it wasn't like they beat us-beat us...
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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2009, 09:49:39 AM »
IFBB, you're clearly a very special geniot. I shall listen to you oh wise one from Israel.  You are far to clever and cunning for me to oppose.

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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2009, 09:51:10 AM »
I think we killed way more Viet-Cong then the other way around though, like 10:1 I think?

So it wasn't like they beat us-beat us...

Vietnam wasn't a traditional "loss" as we think about in other wars. The Viet-Cong were finished as an effective/respected force after Tet and the NVA was effectively neutralized after 1971 and the following Easter Offensive.

It was the first war that was politically lost and that the media etc had a hand in forming policy.

And to Hedgehog, I was not trying to break the victory down into %'s with my statement. Just that the U.S. helped many nations during the war with more than military/industrial strength.

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Re: The Luke: "America has never really won a war"
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2009, 10:17:54 AM »
To all the people who always bring up Russia, let's ask this. Would Russia have stood any chance had Germany not been focused with the USA? Nope. Meanwhile, we were fighting on multiple fronts across 3/4 of the planet.

The Luke is a dipshit who sent out 2,000 job applications in the glorious country of Ireland (economic juggernaut according to him), couldn't find gainful employment and now (when he's not living in his parent's basement) spends his time chasing Bigfoot across the planet. He spends his summers tasting animal dropping across the American northwest or wherever the fuck Sasquatch was spotted this year.  ::)