his back is pretty poor (by top ifbb pro standards) so i'd say somewhere between 8-16
Yeah, or maybe a more Nasser-ish top 5? Dominant from the front, poor size and condition from the back. Actually he's only been photographed in "bulked up" off-season mode so who even know if he can get down below 5% and keep all that size? Certainly crazy legs and arms, and chest though.