Author Topic: Kai or Jay for the win (Read 2241 times)

tbombz · « **on:** September 25, 2009, 11:02:35 PM »

kai edges jay out because of his dominance from the back. but jay is much harder and more aesthetic than i think anyone was expecting. its up to politics..

victor for third

Wiggs · « **Reply #1 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:04:17 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on September 25, 2009, 11:02:35 PM

kai edges jay out because of his dominance from the back. but jay is much harder and more aesthetic than i think anyone was expecting. its up to politics..

victor for third

Victor won't be in the top 6 and and yes Kai should win...

Waist has improved dramatically.

20inch calves · « **Reply #2 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:06:07 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on September 25, 2009, 11:02:35 PM

kai edges jay out because of his dominance from the back. but jay is much harder and more aesthetic than i think anyone was expecting. its up to politics..

victor for third

i can't agree. kai;s back is strange attaches at the waist. he has a short upper body. jays back although not as sharp is wider and he got the wrinkles fixed. jay kills him from the front though. i think its jays show

PJim · « **Reply #3 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:07:00 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on September 25, 2009, 11:04:17 PM

Victor won't be in the top 6 and and yes Kai should win...

Waist has improved dramatically.

Fucking amazing.

tbombz · « **Reply #4 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:10:04 PM »

kai has the most exaggerated X frame of everyone, and nobody has better conditioning or size, although a few match him on that. victor has the bext upper body v taper, but loses it on the legs. phil is too small to compete for the top, dexter as well. branch looks good but he just doesnt have the body to compete for the top sots. kai's weakness is his waist(which is imporved from the arnold) and his rear lat spread(his back is amazing in very other pose but it just doesnt get the width or detail in that shot)

jay is huge and freaky but his back double bicep lacks compared to kais, and so do his hamstrings in the side poses.

tbombz · « **Reply #5 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:12:18 PM »

jtsunami · « **Reply #6 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:13:50 PM »

Kai looked small to me on prejudging webcast, in these pictures he looks much better, must be how dark he is geeez he's almost invisible on video.

jt

Ex Coelis · « **Reply #7 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:16:28 PM »

Kai destroyed Phil, Dex, and Branch

he should have been in the last call-out next to Jay but I think they were trying to show Dexter respect

Royal Lion · « **Reply #8 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:17:35 PM »

Kai definitely got better as the night wore on. But Jay simply outsized him and any advantage Kai had in conditioning was trivial.

Here is the link to the Flex comparisons. These along with the webcast show Jay on a whole different level than the rest. Kai could very well be in second.

http://www.flexonline.com/09contests/09olympia/men/first_callout/index.html

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #9 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:20:43 PM »

horrible lat spreads on heath and jay

Greene should win the Olympia

Royal Lion · « **Reply #10 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:22:41 PM »

Quote from: sevastase on September 25, 2009, 11:20:43 PM

horrible lat spreads on heath and jay

Greene should win the Olympia

Based on one pic? Did you watch the webcast?

tbombz · « **Reply #11 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:23:20 PM »

Quote from: sevastase on September 25, 2009, 11:20:43 PM

horrible lat spreads on heath and jay

Greene should win the Olympia

the pictures taken of the stage give advantage to the other guys with less width on their backs from the front. kai has unbelievable width in that shot, but the photo is taken from below so it makes him lookos blocky and takes away form the taper. you have a good eye so your able to tell he is destroyin those guys there. this happened to victor at the 07 olympia with his front lat spread as well.

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #12 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:23:32 PM »

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #13 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:26:01 PM »

Quote from: Royal Lion on September 25, 2009, 11:22:41 PM

Based on one pic? Did you watch the webcast?

YES i DID

KAI LOOKED RIDICULOUS

Jayis cut but whata blocky horrid structure

Phil ? out of top 4

dex: worse tha last year

I have :

1 Kai

2 Cutler

3 Dex

4 Branch

5 Heath

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #14 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:27:57 PM »

I havewatched the webcast :

I kept sarring at Kai : just ridiculous !

Owns Jay in size and conditioning

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #15 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:30:19 PM »

Matt C · « **Reply #16 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:32:44 PM »

Quote from: sevastase on September 25, 2009, 11:20:43 PM

horrible lat spreads on heath and jay

Greene should win the Olympia

I must be seeing things but is Jay making Phil look soft?

Royal Lion · « **Reply #17 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:33:27 PM »

Quote from: sevastase on September 25, 2009, 11:27:57 PM

I havewatched the webcast :

I kept sarring at Kai : just ridiculous !

Owns Jay in size and conditioning

I guess that's why it's subjective. I thought Jay completely outsized everyone, including Kai. Kai may have an edge on conditioning, but not enough to make up for Jay's size advantage.

I have: 1-Jay; 2-Kai; 3-Dex; 4-Heath; 5-Branch; 6-Rockel

Royal Lion · « **Reply #18 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:35:51 PM »

Jay wins in these pics imo, but his superiority was more evident in watching the video.

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #19 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:36:15 PM »

Quote from: Royal Lion on September 25, 2009, 11:33:27 PM

I guess that's why it's subjective. I thought Jay completely outsized everyone, including Kai. Kai may have an edge on conditioning, but not enough to make up for Jay's size advantage.

I have: 1-Jay; 2-Kai; 3-Dex; 4-Heath; 5-Branch; 6-Rockel

i HOPE YOU ARE JOKING LOL

KAI looked trice as big as Jay

Matt C · « **Reply #20 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:37:52 PM »

They all look very good.

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #21 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:38:52 PM »

Jay : smaller, less aesthetic, smaller, worse structure, smaller, blockier, smaller, less conditioned and a bit smaller than KAI

I got a new nickname 4 KAI

Kai " Silverback " Greene

Tigerman · « **Reply #22 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:39:53 PM »

Kai is dominating Jay in each and every pose

jwb · « **Reply #23 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:40:29 PM »

Quote from: Tigerman on September 25, 2009, 11:39:53 PM

Kai is dominating Jay in each and every pose

I agree..

jwb · « **Reply #24 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:43:18 PM »

Phil's narrowness is made worse by the huge indents he has in his pecs... anyone else notice that?