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Re: Paco KO!!!!!!!
« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2009, 07:32:37 AM »
Risking diabetes is so fucking stupid, its almost impossible to justify.

Sure you can do it safe but once you get type 2 or even 1 if you are that unlucky you will but glycating for life, causing all sorts of health problems. Diabetes is a disease i fear because of its sequelae.

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« Reply #51 on: October 02, 2009, 07:34:02 AM »
he doesn't look hypo to me

when I start going hypo I sure as hell don't smile, I shake and I feel bad !

looks like he was just tired from his workout

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« Reply #52 on: October 02, 2009, 07:35:43 AM »
tired musclestuds ready for relaxation vol 2.

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Re: Paco KO!!!!!!!
« Reply #53 on: October 02, 2009, 07:39:36 AM »
he doesn't look hypo to me

when I start going hypo I sure as hell don't smile, I shake and I feel bad !

looks like he was just tired from his workout
He said but digestion.
Then I asked
"Low blood sugar isnt it?"
He replyed
"No, I know how i feel when my blood sugar is low."


Also his face was not pale. he just felt bad.

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Re: Paco KO!!!!!!!
« Reply #54 on: October 02, 2009, 07:41:18 AM »
what are his plans now kyomu?

when is he competing next>
He is planning to do IRONMAN.

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« Reply #55 on: October 02, 2009, 07:43:47 AM »
THATS were bbing has ventured way of the beaten path,anabolics for a level playing field fine,gh combos fine,the other stuff is science to the extreme.pro caliber body is way too much maintence to get and stay pro size without down time to be just normal big ,freaky big is all what ur body can handle.

Hence IFBB pros = all drugs.

Diabetes risk is mostly myth. I know someone juicing and using slin into his late 40s and no diabetes. He comes off slin more than 6 months of the year. He also tells me he's yet to meet a lifter who contracted diabetes from slin. He's always been very honest with me and tells me of real pro cycles and doses so I know he isn't sugar coating things.

Even if it was a risk, lifters using that much slin are already using it at every meal so it's not a big problem. All that's happened is that endogenous production is now retarded. They're already pinning insulin prior to most if not all meals (or using long acting slin plus short acting).

This is like crying about the dangers of being shut down. Pros are taking grams of juice. Being at 3000-4000 instead of a natural 700-900 max is much better. They're all drugs so who needs natural hormones? They've made the decision to fuck up their body long before the damage begins. It's no surprise to them. All drugs and schmoe pleasing. Living the life!!

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Re: Paco KO!!!!!!!
« Reply #56 on: October 02, 2009, 07:49:17 AM »
Hence IFBB pros = all drugs.

Diabetes risk is mostly myth. I know someone juicing and using slin into his late 40s and no diabetes. He comes off slin more than 6 months of the year. He also tells me he's yet to meet a lifter who contracted diabetes from slin. He's always been very honest with me and tells me of real pro cycles and doses so I know he isn't sugar coating things.

Even if it was a risk, lifters using that much slin are already using it at every meal so it's not a big problem. All that's happened is that endogenous production is now retarded. They're already pinning insulin prior to most if not all meals (or using long acting slin plus short acting).

This is like crying about the dangers of being shut down. Pros are taking grams of juice. Being at 3000-4000 instead of a natural 700-900 max is much better. They're all drugs so who needs natural hormones? They've made the decision to fuck up their body long before the damage begins. It's no surprise to them. All drugs and schmoe pleasing. Living the life!!
Well well, I know several case of serious hypo(calling ambulance) caused by Insulin usage around here.
Its like driving F1. Bit mistake in the corner,boom crush and DIE.

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« Reply #57 on: October 02, 2009, 08:10:03 AM »
Being hyperglyemic has the same effect. I took 75 grams of dextrose instead of 50 in post workout drink once and i had to lie in bed for 20 mins.
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« Reply #58 on: October 02, 2009, 08:46:07 AM »
... Maybe iron organs he has?

Hi Yoda.

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« Reply #59 on: October 02, 2009, 08:48:04 AM »
Hence IFBB pros = all drugs.

Diabetes risk is mostly myth. I know someone juicing and using slin into his late 40s and no diabetes. He comes off slin more than 6 months of the year. He also tells me he's yet to meet a lifter who contracted diabetes from slin. He's always been very honest with me and tells me of real pro cycles and doses so I know he isn't sugar coating things.

Even if it was a risk, lifters using that much slin are already using it at every meal so it's not a big problem. All that's happened is that endogenous production is now retarded. They're already pinning insulin prior to most if not all meals (or using long acting slin plus short acting).

This is like crying about the dangers of being shut down. Pros are taking grams of juice. Being at 3000-4000 instead of a natural 700-900 max is much better. They're all drugs so who needs natural hormones? They've made the decision to fuck up their body long before the damage begins. It's no surprise to them. All drugs and schmoe pleasing. Living the life!!

GOOD POST,like i said u could have a really good build or an obscene build if u are willing to do whatever is needed to do so.its a science russian roulette.

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« Reply #60 on: October 02, 2009, 09:33:04 AM »
GOOD POST,like i said u could have a really good build or an obscene build if u are willing to do whatever is needed to do so.its a science russian roulette.

Yeah, after a certain point safety gets thrown out the window. After a gram of androgens and starting to use multiple peptides, the dangers are all the same. So if you're using those sorts of doses for long periods (basically staying on all the time with small breaks, but only "cruising" breaks) it's no big deal to up the dosage more and more. Same shit, different pile. The margin of damage becomes minute as you increase the doses, because it's already exorbitant. Pro's don't give a shit. A few extra jabs of slin and GH each day means nothing but more muscle to them. Scary way of living day to day.

Kyomu, hypoglycemia is not a big deal for bodybuilders. If you've seen people in town get taken away in an ambulance then you've got some extremely stupid lifters in that country you're in. In Canada you can buy slin over the counter. Humalog can be purchase online without a script either, and it's being used by plenty of competitors and gym rats. When they go hypo, aside from some deep regret, there's not much else that comes of it. It takes a big hit on your CNS which most people aren't aware of though.

It's not smart to allow yourself to get hypoglycemic but if you treat low blood sugar at the first signs, it's not a huge medical challenge. Your adrenals will go into overdrive and your CNS will take a hit, but other than that it's nothing for a bodybuilder who's familiar with it. When people here become hypo, they just feel stupid that they didn't consume enough carbs right away. They don't waste the time of an EMT and ambulance because they are becoming a tapped resource in Canada. And the ERs are getting very full. Hypoglycemia is no big deal for juicers and meat heads. I guarantee you that all your big buddies who say they don't use slin, are using slin themselves. It's too cheap and effective an anabolic not to be using it at their level. They are lying right to your face, my friend. Don't give them your respect, they are real bodybuilders aka liars. You are too righteous and pure to give them respect.

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« Reply #61 on: October 02, 2009, 09:53:17 AM »
Yeah, after a certain point safety gets thrown out the window. After a gram of androgens and starting to use multiple peptides, the dangers are all the same. So if you're using those sorts of doses for long periods (basically staying on all the time with small breaks, but only "cruising" breaks) it's no big deal to up the dosage more and more. Same shit, different pile. The margin of damage becomes minute as you increase the doses, because it's already exorbitant. Pro's don't give a shit. A few extra jabs of slin and GH each day means nothing but more muscle to them. Scary way of living day to day.

Kyomu, hypoglycemia is not a big deal for bodybuilders. If you've seen people in town get taken away in an ambulance then you've got some extremely stupid lifters in that country you're in. In Canada you can buy slin over the counter. Humalog can be purchase online without a script either, and it's being used by plenty of competitors and gym rats. When they go hypo, aside from some deep regret, there's not much else that comes of it. It takes a big hit on your CNS which most people aren't aware of though.

It's not smart to allow yourself to get hypoglycemic but if you treat low blood sugar at the first signs, it's not a huge medical challenge. Your adrenals will go into overdrive and your CNS will take a hit, but other than that it's nothing for a bodybuilder who's familiar with it. When people here become hypo, they just feel stupid that they didn't consume enough carbs right away. They don't waste the time of an EMT and ambulance because they are becoming a tapped resource in Canada. And the ERs are getting very full. Hypoglycemia is no big deal for juicers and meat heads. I guarantee you that all your big buddies who say they don't use slin, are using slin themselves. It's too cheap and effective an anabolic not to be using it at their level. They are lying right to your face, my friend. Don't give them your respect, they are real bodybuilders aka liars. You are too righteous and pure to give them respect.
Of course i know what you say. Nobody lies to me here and I know many tiny tits doing slin. And they are open to talk about it. I know why Paco dont do slin. but I cant tell that reason here. And that scares me out of shit.

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« Reply #62 on: October 02, 2009, 02:18:18 PM »
Of course i know what you say. Nobody lies to me here and I know many tiny tits doing slin. And they are open to talk about it. I know why Paco dont do slin. but I cant tell that reason here. And that scares me out of shit.
As deranged as it is, I can somewhat understand a Pro, who is trying to be the best in the world and get nutrition sponsors etc doing insulin and heavy stacks...but some of the guys I see posting photos in drug forums look like nothing. I see guys that could never place in a local show talking about their cycles of 2 grams a week of test, "slin", G.H. I don't get it. If you can't build a body capable of winning a local show on regular anabolics, why are you taking insulin?..That should be for a guy who wants to compete in the Nationals. Then half these guys I see usually carry 40-50 pounds of fat and are year round permabulkers. Guess what, it looks like shit. "Oh, I'll get cut when I'm bigger." No you won't.  And what's with all these clowns who obviously never train their calves?

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Re: Paco KO!!!!!!!
« Reply #63 on: October 02, 2009, 02:20:01 PM »
I dont think Paco will compete again again he seems exhausted.

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« Reply #64 on: October 02, 2009, 02:22:19 PM »
As deranged as it is, I can somewhat understand a Pro, who is trying to be the best in the world and get nutrition sponsors etc doing insulin and heavy stacks...but some of the guys I see posting photos in drug forums look like nothing. I see guys that could never place in a local show talking about their cycles of 2 grams a week of test, "slin", G.H. I don't get it. If you can't build a body capable of winning a local show on regular anabolics, why are you taking insulin?..That should be for a guy who wants to compete in the Nationals. Then half these guys I see usually carry 40-50 pounds of fat and are year round permabulkers. Guess what, it looks like shit. "Oh, I'll get cut when I'm bigger." No you won't.  And what's with all these clowns who obviously never train their calves?
Thats what i am saying to people around me all day. And they hate me ;D

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« Reply #65 on: October 02, 2009, 02:22:44 PM »
Of course i know what you say. Nobody lies to me here and I know many tiny tits doing slin. And they are open to talk about it. I know why Paco dont do slin. but I cant tell that reason here. And that scares me out of shit.
Nicely said!   ;D

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« Reply #66 on: October 02, 2009, 02:23:24 PM »
I dont think Paco will compete again again he seems exhausted.
I will tell it to him tomorrow. ;D

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« Reply #67 on: October 02, 2009, 02:23:33 PM »
Thats what i am saying to people around me all day. And they hate me ;D
No one likes to hear the truth.

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« Reply #68 on: October 02, 2009, 02:26:03 PM »
I will tell it to him tomorrow. ;D
Get him some Ginseng.

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« Reply #69 on: October 02, 2009, 02:27:18 PM »
No one likes to hear the truth.
Thats why My only friends in the gym is Paco and a couple of guys. :'( ;D

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« Reply #70 on: October 02, 2009, 02:28:26 PM »
Get him some Ginseng.
I think the fvcker will grow even with Ginseng  >:(

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« Reply #71 on: October 02, 2009, 02:28:55 PM »
Thats why My only friends in the gym is Paco and a couple of guys. :'( ;D
They probably hate you because you're natural and look better than a lot of juicers.

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« Reply #72 on: October 02, 2009, 02:33:07 PM »
They probably hate you because you're natural and look better than a lot of juicers.
Paco says so. I dont have good genetic. Just these people are lazy as fvck and train like pussys >:(
They do everything and dont do diet nor train hard. Its beyond my imagination.
One of the reason why i dont do it is that i dont want to live like a pro thinking "Hey, you are sacrificing money and health, so you must get the result anyway.".
But when it comes to these people......... :-\

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« Reply #73 on: October 02, 2009, 02:55:52 PM »
Paco says so. I dont have good genetic. Just these people are lazy as fvck and train like pussys >:(
They do everything and dont do diet nor train hard. Its beyond my imagination.
One of the reason why i dont do it is that i dont want to live like a pro thinking "Hey, you are sacrificing money and health, so you must get the result anyway.".
But when it comes to these people......... :-\
Agreed, they scrare me out of shite too

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« Reply #74 on: October 02, 2009, 03:01:06 PM »
Agreed, they scrare me out of shite too
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But why are you scared?