Author Topic: "We Were Stunned When We Saw This in Michael Moore's Latest Film" — Claire Shipm (Read 5955 times)

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #1 on:** October 03, 2009, 06:38:11 AM »

Ever hear of key man insurance? Look it up and educate yourself before spouting ignorant crap from michael moore.

I swear, this board has the largest group of economic incompetents, you included Blacken, that have no clue about business. None. The level of ignorance you display is staggering.

Key Man insurance and insurance like this is to protect the business if the employee dies since the business loses the value of what that employee adds to the business. This is nothing new.

Educate yourself fool! .

blacken700 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 03, 2009, 07:02:29 AM »

YEA THE MUSIC STORE CASHEIR WAS VERY VALUABLE AND ALOT OF COMPANIES ARE NOW INSURING LOWER LEVEL EMPLOYIES FOR A TAX WRITEOFF

The level of lies you display is staggering.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #3 on:** October 03, 2009, 07:13:14 AM »

Quote from: blacken700 on October 03, 2009, 07:02:29 AM

YEA THE MUSIC STORE CASHEIR WAS VERY VALUABLE AND ALOT OF COMPANIES ARE NOW INSURING LOWER LEVEL EMPLOYIES FOR A TAX WRITEOFF

The level of lies you display is staggering.

There is nothing illegal about this and more propaganda from the left.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #4 on:** October 03, 2009, 07:20:09 AM »

Quote from: blacken700 on October 03, 2009, 07:02:29 AM

YEA THE MUSIC STORE CASHEIR WAS VERY VALUABLE AND ALOT OF COMPANIES ARE NOW INSURING LOWER LEVEL EMPLOYIES FOR A TAX WRITEOFF

The level of lies you display is staggering.

Maybe you should blame the government for this since they allow the tax deduction in the first place.

Maybe you should ask yourself why businesses feel the need to do these types of things in the first place?

Ever think that maybe taxes are too damned high Blacken?

headhuntersix · « **Reply #5 on:** October 03, 2009, 07:21:27 AM »

Evil corporations...waaaaas. I guess all businesses are Republican and Blacken doesn't buy anything from them. He grows his own food, makes his own cloths and cars...built his own computer from the metals he mined..self smarted himself into making said computer...taught himself to read from books he wrote...Blacken stop me when u get the point. Ur an idiot.

blacken700 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 03, 2009, 07:21:59 AM »

JUST BECAUSE ITS LEGAL DOES'T MAKE IT RIGHT. AND I THINK NOW YOU HAVE TO BE INFORMED

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #7 on:** October 03, 2009, 07:24:40 AM »

Quote from: blacken700 on October 03, 2009, 07:21:59 AM

JUST BECAUSE ITS LEGAL DOES'T MAKE IT RIGHT. AND I THINK NOW YOU HAVE TO BE INFORMED

Who the hell are you to say what is right or wrong?

Blame the govt for this if you dont like it. They created the tax write off in the first place.

You cant blame people or businesses for doing what is perfectly legal to lower their AGI.

blacken700 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 03, 2009, 07:24:59 AM »

I DON'T THINK I SAID IT WAS A REPUB OR DEM THING. SO GO PLAY ARMY

headhuntersix · « **Reply #9 on:** October 03, 2009, 07:25:54 AM »

U idiots blame big business for everything...go play civilian douchbag..my jobs not a agame.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #10 on:** October 03, 2009, 07:29:27 AM »

Quote from: blacken700 on October 03, 2009, 07:24:59 AM

I DON'T THINK I SAID IT WAS A REPUB OR DEM THING. SO GO PLAY ARMY

Abortion may be legal but is not right. Whats your stupid imbecilic point?

blacken700 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 03, 2009, 07:34:07 AM »

Quote from: headhuntersix on October 03, 2009, 07:25:54 AM

U idiots blame big business for everything...go play civilian douchbag..my jobs not a agame.

SORRY I FORGOT

headhuntersix · « **Reply #12 on:** October 03, 2009, 07:36:20 AM »

That would only work if I ordered the code red...with u I do it myself.

blacken700 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 03, 2009, 07:44:09 AM »

LIGHTEN UP FRANCIS

Quote from: headhuntersix on October 03, 2009, 07:36:20 AM

That would only work if I ordered the code red...with u I do it myself.

Slapper · « **Reply #14 on:** October 03, 2009, 09:34:04 AM »

I don't know why people are so "stunned" at crap like this.

I know some people are in the dark when it comes to corporate innuendo... but come on! Are you really THAT "stunned"?

It's amazing how the media is now, all of a sudden, playing stupid to all this crap that went on for all these years.

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 03, 2009, 10:09:09 AM »

They can take away tax deductions if they slash the rate of taxation. They are killing businesses who try to play by the rules. Stop the f-cking spending and lower our outrageous corporate tax rates.

Slapper · « **Reply #16 on:** October 03, 2009, 04:19:11 PM »

US governement secretly listening to our phone calls or raising our taxes is something most of you adamantly and actively denounce without any nuance.

Now, I cannot comprehend how you can understand, and be against, government intrusion but somehow "lower the bar" to corporate intrusion.

How in the friggin world do you connect them dots??

pedro01 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 03, 2009, 05:26:47 PM »

I'd rather not work for a company that benefits if I die.

Call me old fashioned but when times are tough, I'd rather not be watching my back at work...

In fact, I'd go further and say that no-one should be able to insure your life without your knowledge.

SAMSON123 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 03, 2009, 05:39:22 PM »

Why is everyone complaining? A minute ago you were all for CAPITALISM...now that you see a glowing example of it you are turned off. Remember CAPITALISM is the worship of MONEY...earn it by ANY MEANS NECESSARY is the rule of the game.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #19 on:** October 04, 2009, 05:39:06 AM »

Quote from: SAMSON123 on October 03, 2009, 05:39:22 PM

Why is everyone complaining? A minute ago you were all for CAPITALISM...now that you see a glowing example of it you are turned off. Remember CAPITALISM is the worship of MONEY...earn it by ANY MEANS NECESSARY is the rule of the game.

I really dont know why people are complaining over this. Insurance is highly regulated by the govt and insurance is nothing more than a contract between two parties as to who is going to share a risk in the event of an event.

If you left wing cry babies dont like it, contact your state represenatives and get it changed.

You guys are blaming the wrong party in this, its the govts fault, not the insurance company or business owner, since the govt regulates insurance and allows for the tax dedecution in the first place.

Slapper · « **Reply #20 on:** October 04, 2009, 05:57:11 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on October 04, 2009, 05:39:06 AM

I really dont know why people are complaining over this. Insurance is highly regulated by the govt and insurance is nothing more than a contract between two parties as to who is going to share a risk in the event of an event.

If you left wing cry babies dont like it, contact your state represenatives and get it changed.

You guys are blaming the wrong party in this, its the govts fault, not the insurance company or business owner, since the govt regulates insurance and allows for the tax dedecution in the first place.

The government has nothing to do with this. This has all to do with a tax cut and a corporation's willingness to BET on an employees life.

What you say would make sense if corporations had not fired anyone in the past 5 years. The opposite has taken place: Millions of people that were supposed to be so valuable to a corporation their lives needed to be insured were suddenly shown the door.

Aside from that, YOU, OF ALL PEOPLE, the champion of governmental mistrust, the very same guy that says that governments should have ZERO intrusion in anyone's lives, all of a sudden says it's OK for someone else to bet ON YOUR LIFE.

Talk about dropping your pants and taking a big erect penis up your arse!

Not to mention double standards.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #21 on:** October 04, 2009, 06:02:21 AM »

Quote from: Slapper on October 04, 2009, 05:57:11 AM

The government has nothing to do with this. This has all to do with a tax cut and a corporation's willingness to BET on an employees life.

What you say would make sense if corporations had not fired anyone in the past 5 years. The opposite has taken place: Millions of people that were supposed to be so valuable to a corporation their lives needed to be insured were suddenly shown the door.

Aside from that, YOU, OF ALL PEOPLE, the champion of governmental mistrust, the very same guy that says that governments should have ZERO intrusion in anyone's lives, all of a sudden says it's OK for someone else to bet ON YOUR LIFE.

Talk about dropping your pants and taking a big erect penis up your arse!

Not to mention double standards.

First off - the govt regulates what policies can be written in a state. Just go the NYS Insurance department website and take a look over there. Plus, the govt allows the tax writeoff. So, if this is so bad and evil the govt should end the tax break.

As far as the rest of your point, I think most people should be in their own businesses but that is besides the point.

Under your point, the only way the carrier would have to pay out is if all these people died, not if they get fired. The carrier would not pay because murder is not an event that usually triggers the policy to come into effect where the settlor of the policy kills the insureds' lives.

Slapper · « **Reply #22 on:** October 04, 2009, 06:06:32 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on October 04, 2009, 06:02:21 AM

First off - the govt regulates what policies can be written in a state. Just go the NYS Insurance department website and take a look over there. Plus, the govt allows the tax writeoff. So, if this is so bad and evil the govt should end the tax break.

As far as the rest of your point, I think most people should be in their own businesses but that is besides the point.

Under your point, the only way the carrier would have to pay out is if all these people died, not if they get fired. The carrier would not pay because murder is not an event that usually triggers the policy to come into effect where the settlor of the policy kills the insureds' lives.

That's BULLSHIT!

The ones carrying out the crime are corporations, not the government, and I hate the government as much as you do.

You, my friend, have some weird ass priorities.

I DO NOT WANT ANY FUCKING BODY, TAX WRITE OFFS OR NOT, TO BET ON MY LIFE. PERIOD.

(Self-censored)

Slapper · « **Reply #23 on:** October 04, 2009, 06:10:05 AM »

From now on, I expect to hear the same, or similar, schepticism on any decision the government decides to take.

I mean... if you're able to articulate and defend what some corporations are doing... You've drunk the cool aid my friend.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #24 on:** October 04, 2009, 06:11:47 AM »

Quote from: Slapper on October 04, 2009, 06:06:32 AM

That's BULLSHIT!

The ones carrying out the crime are corporations, not the government, and I hate the government as much as you do.

You, my friend, have some weird ass priorities.

I DO NOT WANT ANY FUCKING BODY, TAX WRITE OFFS OR NOT, TO BET ON MY LIFE.

FUCKING PERIOD.

Neither do I, but if you understand insurance, most carriers are not in the business to lose money. Most insurance underwriters and actuaries I have dealt with are pretty smart people and know when someone is trying to commit fraud.

Do you really think an insurance company is going to just accept neasly preimums on people and than [ay out when the settlor of the policy goes on to murder en mass to collect the policies and the carrier not figure out what is going on?

BTW Slapper - did you see that we are now the highest taxed county in the nation?