Author Topic: No Gran Prix Shows?!?! (Read 5912 times)

Royal Lion · « **on:** October 03, 2009, 09:50:13 AM »

It seems like every year there are a couple of European Gran Prix shows in which the Mr.O contenders compete. Are there none this year?

inzane · « **Reply #1 on:** October 03, 2009, 10:16:21 AM »

i think there were no shows last year as well.....seem to have been cancelled

Royal Lion · « **Reply #2 on:** October 03, 2009, 10:42:11 AM »

That's too bad....with everyone in shape for the Mr.O, it would be nice to seem them compete a couple more times.

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #3 on:** October 03, 2009, 10:47:20 AM »

Last year there was just the Romanian Grand Prix which Dexter won, this year there will be the Sacremento pro i november

timfogarty · « **Reply #4 on:** October 03, 2009, 10:53:25 AM »

The only men's pro IFBB show remaining this year is in Sacramento, California, November 7

If you want to see pro bodybuilding in Europe you have

UPBF Battle of Giants, Ciampino, Rome, October 18

UPBF Battle of Giants, Larvik Norway, October 24

NABBA Pro Universe, Southport , UK, October 24

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #5 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:07:19 AM »

Quote from: timfogarty on October 03, 2009, 10:53:25 AM

The only men's pro IFBB show remaining this year is in Sacramento, California, November 7

If you want to see pro bodybuilding in Europe you have

UPBF Battle of Giants, Ciampino, Rome, October 18

UPBF Battle of Giants, Larvik Norway, October 24

NABBA Pro Universe, Southport , UK, October 24

NAC Mr and Ms Universe, Hamburg, Germany, December 5th, have a new pro division this year

Victor VonDoom · « **Reply #6 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:12:29 AM »

Quote from: inzane on October 03, 2009, 10:16:21 AM

i think there were no shows last year as well.....seem to have been cancelled

Is it the economy? Bah!

timfogarty · « **Reply #7 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:12:48 AM »

Quote from: Schmoe Buster on October 03, 2009, 11:07:19 AM

NAC Mr and Ms Universe, Hamburg, Germany, December 5th, have a new pro division this year

Forgot about WABBA World's too, November 7, Budapest, Hungary

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #8 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:14:37 AM »

Quote from: timfogarty on October 03, 2009, 11:12:48 AM

Forgot about WABBA World's too, November 7, Budapest, Hungary

who needs the grand prix tours, plenty of good bodybuilding in Europe this winter

Royal Lion · « **Reply #9 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:28:50 AM »

Are any of the top Mr. O contenders competing in Sacramento? It just seems that there should a couple of more shows following the Mr. O (like the Euro Gran Prixs used to be) because everyone is in shape.

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #10 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:30:54 AM »

Quote from: Royal Lion on October 03, 2009, 11:28:50 AM

Are any of the top Mr. O contenders competing in Sacramento? It just seems that there should a couple of more shows following the Mr. O (like the Euro Gran Prixs used to be) because everyone is in shape.

there should be but Chick says when you cross the I's and dot the T's the numbers dont add up

Royal Lion · « **Reply #11 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:34:45 AM »

Well that sucks from a fan's perspective -- that is what is lame about this "sport", the top guys only compete once per year.

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #12 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:37:04 AM »

Quote from: Royal Lion on October 03, 2009, 11:34:45 AM

Well that sucks from a fan's perspective -- that is what is lame about this "sport", the top guys only compete once per year.

X2

Matt C · « **Reply #13 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:47:21 AM »

Quote from: Victor VonDoom on October 03, 2009, 11:12:29 AM

Is it the economy? Bah!

Rich Gaspari said his company is doing better than ever:

http://videos.bodybuilding.com/watch/28261/2009-olympia-expo-gaspari-nutritions-rich-gaspari-interview

He also sponsors 85 shows every year. If there is an economic incentive [increased exposure, sales] to sponsor or promote shows, the companies will do it. If they aren't doing it, presumably that is because there is no such incentive.

timfogarty · « **Reply #14 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:56:11 AM »

Quote from: Matt C on October 03, 2009, 11:47:21 AM

If they aren't doing it, presumably that is because there is no such incentive.

or maybe there is a dis-incentive, an overpriced sanction fee

karu · « **Reply #15 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:40:28 PM »

chick says bodybuilding is bigger than ever.

no euro tour = bigger than ever ?

Dr Kincaid · « **Reply #16 on:** October 04, 2009, 12:59:45 AM »

Quote from: karu on October 03, 2009, 12:40:28 PM

chick says bodybuilding is bigger than ever.

no euro tour = bigger than ever ?

He is being scrcastic.

Chick · « **Reply #17 on:** October 04, 2009, 06:32:12 AM »

Quote from: karu on October 03, 2009, 12:40:28 PM

chick says bodybuilding is bigger than ever.

no euro tour = bigger than ever ?

Here is a hint for you....The state of pro BB has never rested on whether or not there was a Euro-tour.

They come and go as promoters do...if the economy dictated it (or the fan base/ response/ vendors, etc)...then there would certainly be more shows in Europe...

That said, there are new shows slated for 2010, like the Arizona Pro, 2 more Europa Pro's, Sac pro, and others...

Determinator · « **Reply #18 on:** October 04, 2009, 06:34:43 AM »

Quote from: Chick on October 04, 2009, 06:32:12 AM

Here is a hint for you....The state of pro BB has never rested on whether or not there was a Euro-tour.

They come and go as promoters do...if the economy dictated it (or the fan base/ response/ vendors, etc)...then there would certainly be more shows in Europe...

That said, there are new shows slated for 2010, like the Arizona Pro, 2 more Europa Pro's, Sac pro, and others...

Is Joe Weider's Pro World cup expect to happen in 2010? That has been shelved twice now, hence i don't think anyone will believe it until they see it .

fathead · « **Reply #19 on:** October 04, 2009, 06:36:38 AM »

who's doing the sacramento pro show?

is there a competitor list yet?

divcom · « **Reply #20 on:** October 04, 2009, 06:38:47 AM »

Zona Pro - hope there is fig and bikini cause it will be all bottom feeders as far as pros.

as far as gasp with 85 shows...what is that in $s and cents? 100-150k write off?

Chick · « **Reply #21 on:** October 04, 2009, 06:53:40 AM »

Quote from: Determinator on October 04, 2009, 06:34:43 AM

Is Joe Weider's Pro World cup expect to happen in 2010? That has been shelved twice now, hence i don't think anyone will believe it until they see it .

Twice? Not to my knowledge...

It's tougher than you think to stage a show overseas...venue location, pricing, sponsor considerations, etc...when you're not actually THERE, it makes it much more challenging.

Determinator · « **Reply #22 on:** October 04, 2009, 06:58:57 AM »

Quote from: Chick on October 04, 2009, 06:53:40 AM

Twice? Not to my knowledge...

It's tougher than you think to stage a show overseas...venue location, pricing, sponsor considerations, etc...when you're not actually THERE, it makes it much more challenging.

It has been shelved after the 08 and 09 Olympias.
It is 'supposed' to be on for next year (well, it was advertised as such). Do you know if it is still going ahead?
You must also admit, the webcasts have taken a big elbow too, with comparison to the 07 season (say)?

Chevron427 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 04, 2009, 07:01:34 AM »

Quote from: Chick on October 04, 2009, 06:53:40 AM

Twice? Not to my knowledge...

It's tougher than you think to stage a show overseas...venue location, pricing, sponsor considerations, etc...when you're not actually THERE, it makes it much more challenging.

The IFBB doesn't cancel shows, only the incompetent promoters do..........

Chick · « **Reply #24 on:** October 04, 2009, 07:14:52 AM »

Quote from: Determinator on October 04, 2009, 06:58:57 AM

It has been shelved after the 08 and 09 Olympias.
It is 'supposed' to be on for next year (well, it was advertised as such). Do you know if it is still going ahead?
You must also admit, the webcasts have taken a big elbow too, with comparison to the 07 season (say)?

It wasnt even a consideration in 08, I would know, as I work with Roin Chang...

The webcasts have nothing to do with the IFBB, it's BB.coms decision to webcast or not based on budget, etc....they elected to webcast less shows this year....not my personal choice, but I am only one voice among many at the front office