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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #175 on: October 07, 2009, 05:49:11 PM »
Hey ND what in you opinion was Ronnie's best year? The dude was incredible but never beat Dorian.

I think as far as the Olympia goes 1998 because his conditioning was perfect , I think he looks better fuller like in 99 but his conditioning was off not as much as 2000 but it was , I think his best overall was 2001 ASC I think he looked unbelievable just amazing , and 2003 he was amazing but not his best

 

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #176 on: October 07, 2009, 06:33:23 PM »
I think as far as the Olympia goes 1998 because his conditioning was perfect , I think he looks better fuller like in 99 but his conditioning was off not as much as 2000 but it was , I think his best overall was 2001 ASC I think he looked unbelievable just amazing , and 2003 he was amazing but not his best

 

I must agree with ND on this... 2001 ASC was the best overall Showing we have ever seen from Ronnie...

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #177 on: October 07, 2009, 08:49:48 PM »
I must agree with ND on this... 2001 ASC was the best overall Showing we have ever seen from Ronnie...

but his gut was much bigger at  the 2001 AC than in 99.

as you can see, he looked better in 99 with 10 pounds more muscle, and less of a gut:
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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #178 on: October 07, 2009, 08:52:19 PM »
but his gut was much bigger at  the 2001 AC than in 99.

as you can see, he looked better in 99 with 10 pounds more muscle, and less of a gut:

Hmm...his gut does look a bit bigger there...though I remember seeing other shots from 01 ASC that were unreal...we need more pics for reference.

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #179 on: October 07, 2009, 09:21:00 PM »
Hmm...his gut does look a bit bigger there...though I remember seeing other shots from 01 ASC that were unreal...we need more pics for reference.

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all the pics and videos show the same thing: ronnie was better in 99:



http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #180 on: October 07, 2009, 09:52:12 PM »
most overrated Mr O
easily Dorian

true winners:
1992 kevin
1993 Flex (best ever Flex)
1994 shawn
1995 Nasser
1996 nasser
1997 nasser

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #181 on: October 07, 2009, 09:53:49 PM »
most overrated Mr O
easily Dorian

true winners:
1992 kevin
1993 Flex (best ever Flex)
1994 shawn
1995 Nasser
1996 nasser
1997 nasser

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Sheriff has been influencing you to much ;)

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #182 on: October 07, 2009, 11:00:34 PM »
most overrated Mr O
easily Dorian

true winners:
1992 kevin
1993 Flex (best ever Flex)
1994 shawn
1995 Nasser
1996 nasser
1997 nasser

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Stick to sniffing Nasser's soiled manties, cause you obviously don't know shit about bodybuilding

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #183 on: October 07, 2009, 11:11:51 PM »
Stick to sniffing Nasser's soiled manties, cause you obviously don't know shit about bodybuilding
LMAO :D

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #184 on: October 07, 2009, 11:41:07 PM »
Stick to sniffing Nasser's soiled manties, cause you obviously don't know shit about bodybuilding

you too kiwi dont know a shit about bb, you once said that fux was a mr. olympia material and that ronnie at his best couldnt have beaten jay this year ::) these 2 opinions only are enough to know that you know about bb as i know about ballet!!

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #185 on: October 08, 2009, 12:10:38 AM »
you too kiwi dont know a shit about bb, you once said that fux was a mr. olympia material and that ronnie at his best couldnt have beaten jay this year ::) these 2 opinions only are enough to know that you know about bb as i know about ballet!!

Hahahaha you should be one to talk with your whole "Nasser is God's gift to humanity" stance ;D


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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #186 on: October 08, 2009, 12:13:58 AM »
Hahahaha you should be one to talk with your whole "Nasser is God's gift to humanity" stance ;D



i never ever said nasser was perfect as a bb!!.. sure his back was a clear weakness.. but yes of course he is a gift from GOD to all humanity ;D

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #187 on: October 08, 2009, 01:41:48 AM »
but his gut was much bigger at  the 2001 AC than in 99.

as you can see, he looked better in 99 with 10 pounds more muscle, and less of a gut:

yet not one single credible source says 1999 is his best , you can never once back up your stupid claims all you can do is post pictures and say ' see '  ::)

Joe Weider - IFBB Co-Founder

"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."



Where's 1999?  ;)

Raymond Cassar - Muscletime Editor and Photographer

"There is no one alive that can beat Ronnie Coleman when he is at his best - No One! (and his best for me was when he won the 2001 Arnold Classic)"


Where's 1999?  ;)

Team Flex - http://www.flexonline.com/training/49

"We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever - unbeatable."


Where's 1999?

Flex Magazine March 2009

Tales from Columbus

2001 (2): Is Chris Cormier unlucky? Are Bob Cicherillo's threads so loud that he's being sponsored by a megaphone company? At the 2001 Arnold Classic, for the only time in its history, the reigning Mr. Olympia entered the contest. Not only that, but said Mr. Olympia, Ronnie Coleman, was in the best shape of his career, before or since. Now that is bad luck.


Where's 1999?

Flex Magazine March 2008

2001 Then-reigning Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman, in the shape of his life at 245 pounds, took this one, with Cormier gaining the second of his six consecutive runner-up positions.


Where's 1999?  ;)

Q ] There are those who feel you were at your best when you competed lighter, which for you was in the low 270's, and those who say you were best in the 290's. Was there a particular look you presented that you preferred over the others?
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      Number one. That one was incredible to me. It (Ronnie's first Olympia win in 1998) always will be and nothing will ever take the place of that one. Everything was just spot on for that show.


Where's 1999?  ;)

Flex Magazine August 2003


Jim Schmatltz on Ronnie chances of winning six Olympias in a row

if he repeats his 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic form, he'll experience the joy of six.



Where's 1999?  ;)

Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004

As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.


Where's 1999?  ;)

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.


Where's 1999?  ;)

Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005

Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.


Where's 1999?  ;)

Stick 1999 up your ass kid no feels 1999 is his best except you and a couple of other guys who don't know much about bodybuilding . His conditioning in 99 can not touch 2001 the ' extra 10 pounds ' isn't quality dense muscle , 2001 is the zenith of his conditioning not only do people feel it's his best showing a lot of them believe it's anyone's best showing ! when you can do what I just did and back up your claim then we'll take you seriously until shut the fuck up about 1999  ;)

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #188 on: October 08, 2009, 01:42:44 AM »
you too kiwi dont know a shit about bb, you once said that fux was a mr. olympia material and that ronnie at his best couldnt have beaten jay this year ::) these 2 opinions only are enough to know that you know about bb as i know about ballet!!

Fux could have won the Olympia absolutely

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #189 on: October 08, 2009, 01:56:07 AM »
Fux could have won the Olympia absolutely

no wonder to hear this from you but isnt it better to ask "the judges" first ;D

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #190 on: October 08, 2009, 03:39:53 AM »
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yet not one single credible source says 1999 is his best , you can never once back up your stupid claims all you can do is post pictures and say ' see '  

actually, the pics and videos support the claim better than any misinformed human opinion..

thats what you fail to understand.


people remember ronnie's AC win because it was a huge deal for a Mr. O to enter, and he won in great shape.

the impact was also intensified because he was facing a bunch of lower teir pros.

thats why his condition stands out in everyone's minds so much.

but a quick glance at reality reveals he was better at other contests.

and the video tape confirms this.


no retarded claims from McGough that are so easily refuted by real life will change this.. ::)
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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #191 on: October 08, 2009, 12:45:24 PM »
actually, the pics and videos support the claim better than any misinformed human opinion..

thats what you fail to understand.


people remember ronnie's AC win because it was a huge deal for a Mr. O to enter, and he won in great shape.

the impact was also intensified because he was facing a bunch of lower teir pros.

thats why his condition stands out in everyone's minds so much.

but a quick glance at reality reveals he was better at other contests.

and the video tape confirms this.


no retarded claims from McGough that are so easily refuted by real life will change this.. ::)

Thanks for admitting you can't do it  ;)


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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #192 on: April 22, 2010, 10:21:31 AM »
My vote: Lee haney.
you sir, are a moron....and you have to be out of your mind.....Mr. Lee Haney is not only one of the finest Mr. O's to win a Sandow.....but as a person, he is unmatched......what he has done for the youth down in Georgia is first rate! The man was the original back king.....along with Samir.

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #193 on: April 22, 2010, 10:23:36 AM »
dickerson, arnold, columbo
wow......you must be young???? these guys were all fine olympia winners.....check dickerson out in 80......Arnie in the early 70s......franco was awesome in 76......what a foolish statement!

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #194 on: April 22, 2010, 10:24:49 AM »

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #195 on: April 22, 2010, 10:27:50 AM »
Fux could have won the Olympia absolutely
no......but shawn ray should have won it at least twice.....maybe more.

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #196 on: April 22, 2010, 11:05:19 AM »
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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #197 on: April 22, 2010, 06:33:32 PM »
No mention of Frank Zane?

Maybe not the most overrated, but he capitalized at the right moment. Arnold and Lou retired, Nubret and Oliva hated Weider, and even Franco was out doing strongman and got injured.

What more could you ask for?



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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #198 on: April 22, 2010, 06:55:52 PM »
Zane was   I said it months ago!
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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #199 on: April 22, 2010, 06:58:10 PM »
 Most over rated - Dorian Yates.