Are veggies a must year round?

[MAXX]

i remember the first time you mentioned the ph of food and alkalin/acidic  balance (you did it in the bast account and said something about spaghetti having acidic(pasta) and alkaline(tomatoe sauce)... it was well after berardi had first mentioned it on the MD radio show
they should, most of them are horrible though. any multivitmain that contains calcium is garbage. most of them do.

the one i usually buy is the cheapest one i can find on the supermarket and it has no calcium so i guess it's good then 

[ToxicAvenger]

Whenever bulking or cuting are they always essential?

I think dieting is where i would use some...buking, i used to, didnt notice shit.

i always eat vegetables....they r high in protein especially when taken from your local hospital

[dyslexic]

What is a vegetable?



Oh, that's right. The folks who post here.

[affeman]

Fuck vegetables, Lee Priest once said while eating vegetables you actually burn more calories than you ingest LOL.

[affeman]

the human body needs an 80 % alkaline 20 % acidic balance

The alkaline-acidic-balance-thing of the human body is still not vindicable from a scientific and a medical standpoint, and can't be influenced by nutrition.

[efanhowz]

if you have any respect for your colon and asshole (which a lot of you will say you do, but come on this is getbig aka schmoe country) you will eat veges. i know apples arent veges but the saying is true "an apple a day keeps the doctor away". you need fiber and pectin for easier times on the toilet. especially as you get older. i try to get high fiber veges in 1 meal a day to stay regular

[MAXX]

if you have any respect for your colon and asshole (which a lot of you will say you do, but come on this is getbig aka schmoe country) you will eat veges. i know apples arent veges but the saying is true "an apple a day keeps the doctor away". you need fiber and pectin for easier times on the toilet. especially as you get older. i try to get high fiber veges in 1 meal a day to stay regular

i eat fiber oatmeal in the morning for good shits

[tbombz]

The alkaline-acidic-balance-thing of the human body is still not vindicable from a scientific and a medical standpoint, and can't be influenced by nutrition.

your absolutely right, what you eat has zero efect on your bodies PH. your body has an internal regulation system that keeps your PH the same at all times, and if it did ever fluctuate, youd probably end up dead.

Now, that being said, certain food yeild a acidic content, while certain foods yeild an alkaline content.  if you are eating more of one then the other, your body has to work to offset that inbalance. that process of ofsetting an imbalance is what you want to avoid.  in order to offset a heavy acidic diet, your body has to take glutamine from muscle and calcium from bone. and it must utilize some catabolic hormones to do so.

[Cleanest Natural]

your absolutely right, what you eat has zero efect on your bodies PH. your body has an internal regulation system that keeps your PH the same at all times, and if it did ever fluctuate, youd probably end up dead.

Now, that being said, certain food yeild a acidic content, while certain foods yeild an alkaline content.  if you are eating more of one then the other, your body has to work to offset that inbalance. that process of ofsetting an imbalance is what you want to avoid.  in order to offset a heavy acidic diet, your body has to take glutamine from muscle and calcium from bone. and it must utilize some catabolic hormones to do so.

[dyslexic]

What if you drop acid on a regular basis?

[wavelength]

The alkaline-acidic-balance-thing of the human body is still not vindicable from a scientific and a medical standpoint, and can't be influenced by nutrition.

otherwise you would be very sick

[affeman]

otherwise you would be very sick

That Säure-Basenhaushalt stuff is another myth brought up by the supplement industry to sell you useless, expensice Bullshit products a la Basica etc.

[Tre]

great way to get some essential nutrients but possible to get in other ways

In other words, don't forget about them...they're always important.

[wavelength]

That Säure-Basenhaushalt stuff is another myth brought up by the supplement industry to sell you useless, expensice Bullshit products a la Basica etc.

Exactly.
There might be some truth to what tbombz posted though.

In other words, don't forget about them...they're always important.

I would always prefer the most natural method of getting nutrients.

[tbombz]

truth to what tbombz posted

So what's wrong with this low-grade chronic metabolic acidosis? Well, since the body must, at all costs, operate at a stable pH, any dietary acid load has to be neutralized by one of a number of homeostatic base-producing mechanisms. So, although the pH of the body is maintained and your doctor visits turn out fine, many cells of the body will suffer. Here are some of the most severe consequences of your body's attempt to maintain a constant pH in the face of an acidic environment:

       Hypercalciuria (high concentrations of calcium in the urine). Since calcium is a strong base and bone contains the body's largest calcium store, metabolic acidosis causes a release in calcium from bone. As a result, osteoclastic (bone degrading) activity increases and osteoblastic (bone building) activity decreases. The net result of these changes is that bone is lost in order to neutralize the acidic environment of the body. The calcium that was stored in the bone is then lost in the urine along with the acid it was mobilized to neutralize. This creates a negative calcium balance (more calcium is lost from the body than is consumed) and bones get weak. (2,3,4,6)

       Negative nitrogen balance (high concentrations of nitrogen in urine). Glutamine is responsible for binding hydrogen ions to form ammonium. Since hydrogen ions are acidic, glutamine acts much like calcium to neutralize the body's acidosis. Since skeletal muscle contains the body's largest glutamine store, metabolic acidosis causes muscle breakdown to liberate glutamine from the muscle. The Amino Acids from this muscle breakdown are then excreted, causing a net loss of muscle protein. (2,7)

In addition to bone and muscle loss, other consequences of acidosis include:

       Decreased IGF1 activity (4)

       GH resistance (4)

       Mild hypothyroidism (4)

       Hypercortisolemia (4,5)

Interestingly, low-grade metabolic acidosis seems to worsen with age. Many have speculated that this is due to an age-related decline in kidney function (and acid excretion). Of course, osteoporosis and muscle wasting are unfortunate consequences of aging. While it's too early to tell, perhaps some of the bone and muscle loss evident as individuals get older is a result of diet-induced acidosis. This means that employing a few simple acid-base strategies may help slow osteoporosis and sarcopoenia.

[Cleanest Natural]

I will refuse to debate these issues in this thread with people that don't even know how the human body functions.

tbombz: " what you eat does not influence your body "

another gem :
  "The alkaline-acidic-balance-thing of the human body is still not vindicable from a scientific and a medical standpoint, and can't be influenced by nutrition.

otherwise you would be very sick "

holy fuck !!

You cannot be that ignorant !

You are what you eat dum dums. If you think the acidic alkaline balance is a myth I have news for you

THE HUMAN SPECIES WAS DESIGNED TO FEED ITSELF WITH 75-80 % ALKALINE REACTING FOODS AND 20-25 % ACIDIC REACTING FOODS.

Another thing : this bodybuilding type of diet is not healthy for the human body

too many carbs

shitty ingredients

here's a list with what I believe are rules to feed ourselves

- organic red meats : at least 3 times a week
- green leafy bitter veggies daily
- veggies daily with every meal
- steam distilled water only
- only certified organic foods
- only whole foods not processed

[Marty Champions]

your absolutely right, what you eat has zero efect on your bodies PH. your body has an internal regulation system that keeps your PH the same at all times, and if it did ever fluctuate, youd probably end up dead.

Now, that being said, certain food yeild a acidic content, while certain foods yeild an alkaline content.  if you are eating more of one then the other, your body has to work to offset that inbalance. that process of ofsetting an imbalance is what you want to avoid.  in order to offset a heavy acidic diet, your body has to take glutamine from muscle and calcium from bone. and it must utilize some catabolic hormones to do so.

oh damn you are really really stupid, if you eat tons of sugary foods your face will be all broken out and get acne from being overly acidic same with too much grains

[Immortal_Technique]

Whenever bulking or cuting are they always essential?

I think dieting is where i would use some...buking, i used to, didnt notice shit.

Think with all the white and red meat you're at massive risk of colon cancer and/or other colon problems unless you get a decent hit of fibre.

[Marty Champions]

its too much risk to eat meats not only because of there bad colon effects but because of the heme-iron you get from meats wich is the ultimate link for cancers, look it up you fucking short faggits. 

man i swear short people are real fucked up and stupid as hell

[Immortal_Technique]

If I'm 6'3", which I am, can I be in the tall club? 

[Bast175]

man i swear short people are real fucked up and stupid as hell

 

[Meso_z]

Think with all the white and red meat you're at massive risk of colon cancer and/or other colon problems unless you get a decent hit of fibre.

really? 

i have not seen one single pro for example eating veggies offseason though

[Bobby]

really? 

i have not seen one single pro for example eating veggies offseason though

i agree and i have studied most pros up close (no homo)

ppl worry too much about "things"

[affeman]

really? 

i have not seen one single pro for example eating veggies offseason though

Like good ol Flex Wheeler once said: "The only veggies I eat is the salad in my burgers."

[wavelength]

No scientific proof = no argument.