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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #75 on: October 08, 2009, 03:07:10 AM »
You must be kiding guys right?

How can you compare Jay with Arnold?

Jay clearly outmasses Arnold, a better bodybuilder overall....and Arnold wasn't that tall either to "tower" Jay as being said.

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #76 on: October 08, 2009, 03:11:22 AM »
You must be kiding guys right?

How can you compare Jay with Arnold?

Jay clearly outmasses Arnold, a better bodybuilder overall....and Arnold wasn't that tall either to "tower" Jay as being said.

Arnold looks way more aesthetic and just about everyone would prefer to look like him over Jay. But if they stood onstage, Jay would outmuscle him and beat him easily, NDAI.

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #77 on: October 08, 2009, 03:17:59 AM »
Arnold looks way more aesthetic and just about everyone would prefer to look like him over Jay. But if they stood onstage, Jay would outmuscle him and beat him easily, NDAI.

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #78 on: October 08, 2009, 03:25:05 AM »


Hahaha I'd pick Arnie's physique over Jay's myself, but do you really think a panel of bodybuilding judges would let him win over Jay if they both stepped onstage at their peaks? It's never been about who has the "prettiest" look onstage.

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #79 on: October 08, 2009, 03:40:33 AM »
i always love how bbing can trick your eye, jay may have a lot more mass than arnold, arnold appears much broader and stronger than jay. and aside a lot more healthy and energetic. bbing really went down the drains.

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #80 on: October 08, 2009, 03:56:56 AM »

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #81 on: October 08, 2009, 03:58:12 AM »
it's about illusion, I can't look past Jay's gut.

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #82 on: October 08, 2009, 04:07:34 AM »
yes his waist is whats killing his physique, i recall ronnie coleman looked way wider in his younger years but that was all because of his trimmed waist.

i have some guys at the gym that has big arms chest and all but they dont look impressive because they have a fcking wide waist also.

key to greatness is a good shoulder waist ratio.

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #83 on: October 08, 2009, 04:17:53 AM »
bbing really went down the drains.

Best era was the 70's.

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #84 on: October 08, 2009, 04:20:10 AM »
yes his waist is whats killing his physique, i recall ronnie coleman looked way wider in his younger years but that was all because of his trimmed waist.

i have some guys at the gym that has big arms chest and all but they dont look impressive because they have a fcking wide waist also.

key to greatness is a good shoulder waist ratio.

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #85 on: October 08, 2009, 04:22:18 AM »

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #86 on: October 08, 2009, 10:23:54 AM »
guys you have to be truthful and honest, based on today's standards of judging, arnold would be lucky to place high in the npc usa's or nationals? much less be on the olympia stage. not saying it's right or wrong but it's the truth in today's bb world/climate.

of course there is the question if arnold was taking was jay is and was young and competed today what arnold would be like? who knows, maybe even more colemanesque than coleman or then again maybe he would look worse?


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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #87 on: October 08, 2009, 10:25:52 AM »
thats why bbing is a circus today. people go there to laugh.

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #88 on: October 08, 2009, 10:28:37 AM »
Hahaha I'd pick Arnie's physique over Jay's myself, but do you really think a panel of bodybuilding judges would let him win over Jay if they both stepped onstage at their peaks? It's never been about who has the "prettiest" look onstage.

You are forgetting the Charisma factor...it doesn't matter who outmuscles who, or who has what look in this case... Arnold has 100000x more Charisma then Jay, and would easily beat jay on this alone. Subjective criteria can be your friend just as much as it can be your enemy..... with the insane amount of Charisma that Arnold possesses, and his ability to "sell his act," so to speak, they would bend the criteria to suit what he was offering.

Its really that simple.

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #89 on: October 08, 2009, 10:29:34 AM »
I'm sure Jay would own Arnold. Look in the Arnold's eyes...that's fear!

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #90 on: October 08, 2009, 10:51:09 AM »
arnold has charisma? what the charisma of a stuck up attention seeking jerk on stage? some charisma?!

i guess i have a different meaning of charisma then others!

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #91 on: October 08, 2009, 11:07:14 AM »
i guess i have a different meaning of charisma then others!

Most people don't like people with charisma a la Arnold. They think it's too cocky and overly confident. But it's more that the person assessing the issue, is the one that needs to work on themselves.

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #92 on: October 08, 2009, 11:15:26 AM »



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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #93 on: October 08, 2009, 11:20:04 AM »
if your an arnold fan, that was a bad comparison pic of cutler and arnold both doing the double bicep. the only thing arnold beats jay on is this pose is the smaller waist. jay beats him in size and thickness upper body and especially lower body, arnold legs look like twigs in that shot!

hmm, someone mentioned that people don't like arnolds' brand of "charisma" because it comes across as TOO self confident and cocky and this is actually an indictment on this person and that they need to work on themselves?

uh, since when does charisma equate to being a over confident stuck on himself attention whore whose a jerk to his fellow competitors?

charisma is a hell of alot more than that people, in fact, it's not even that, it's the ability to attract people to whatever you do SIMPLY BUT JUST BEING YOU!  and not meaning to do anything and you don't even try or don't even know your doing anything that attracts people, you just do!

so arnold's so called "charisma" is a self absorbed show and nothing more!

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #94 on: October 08, 2009, 11:25:24 AM »

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #95 on: October 08, 2009, 11:27:48 AM »

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #96 on: October 08, 2009, 11:29:51 AM »
the only thing those last 2 pics show is that arnold could be more veiny than jay. no surprise there, hmm, add about 30 more plus pounds of muscle on arnold and see how "veiny and vascular he is"?!

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #97 on: October 08, 2009, 11:31:38 AM »

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #98 on: October 08, 2009, 11:39:19 AM »

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Re: Jay Cutler @ Venice Beach
« Reply #99 on: October 08, 2009, 04:12:50 PM »
just looking at those last two photos of Arnold and Cutler, just shows how much the sport has gone backwards. Arnolds look is much better.