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It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« on: October 07, 2009, 07:41:36 AM »
Losing the Latino Vote
In the Long Run, the GOP Must Be Inclusive

By Michael Gerson
Wednesday, October 7, 2009

Mel Martinez's recent resignation from the U.S. Senate was for personal and family reasons. But the departure of the Republican Party's most visible Hispanic leader crackles with political symbolism.

Martinez does not consider himself disillusioned, but he is "frustrated." "There are lots of Hispanics to the right of you and me on immigration," he told me, "but they think, 'Republicans just don't like us.' " Martinez makes clear that a number of his Senate colleagues were "conservative, but not inflammatory." Other elected Republicans, however, made "pretty divisive use of immigration policy. It is more a matter of tone, of how you talk about immigrants. It has made Hispanics feel unwelcome, unwanted."

In ethnic politics, symbolism matters. And recent Republican signals to Hispanics have often been crudely unwelcoming. During the 2006 congressional debate on immigration reform, Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.) grabbed the Republican microphone to call Miami a "Third World country." The same year, Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R-Ariz.) darkly warned of illegal immigrant murderers as a "slow motion nightmare" greater than Sept. 11. A provision of the House immigration reform bill would have made it illegal for priests, ministers and volunteers to "assist" illegal immigrants -- criminalizing a religious duty. Republican presidential candidates conspicuously avoided Hispanic forums during the 2008 primaries. Conservative shock radio, on its frightening fringes, can be overtly racist, referring to Mexican immigrants as "leeches," "the world's lowest primitives" and diseased carriers of the "fajita flu" who may "wipe their behinds with their hands." Pat Buchanan sells books with this title: "State of Emergency: The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America."

As Martinez points out, many Republicans who oppose his pro-immigration views are not divisive or inflammatory. But other, angry voices crowd them out. As a result, Republican support among Latinos is collapsing. In Martinez's home state of Florida, for example, 56 percent of Hispanic voters cast ballots for George W. Bush in 2004. Four years later, 57 percent voted for Barack Obama.

Now hearings are beginning on another immigration reform bill, with a legislative debate likely to ripen in 2010. For Democrats -- pledged to comprehensive reform but weighing union opposition to a temporary-worker program -- the immigration debate will be difficult. For Republicans, it may be an invitation to political suicide.

Some conservatives dismiss electoral considerations as soiled and cynical. They will make their case, even if that means sacrificing Florida, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada and . . . Indiana. Yes, Indiana, which had supported Republican presidential candidates for 40 years before Obama captured it on the strength of Hispanic votes. This is a good definition of extremism -- the assumption that irrelevance is evidence of integrity. In fact, it is a moral achievement of democracy that it eventually forces political parties to appeal to minorities and outsiders instead of demonizing them. The scramble for votes, in the long run, requires inclusion.

By 2030, the Latino share of the vote in America is likely to double. Some Republicans seem to be calculating that this influence can be countered by running up their percentage of support among white voters. But this is not eventually realistic, because non-college-educated whites are declining as a portion of the electorate. And it is disturbing in any case to set the goal of a whiter Republican Party. This approach would not only shrink the party, it would split it. Catholics and evangelicals, who have been central to the Republican coalition, cannot ultimately accept a message of resentment against foreigners. Their faith will not allow it.

In considering illegal immigration, many talk appropriately about the rule of law. But there is also the imago dei -- the shared image of God -- that does not permit individual worth and dignity to be sorted by national origin. This commitment does not translate simplistically into open borders and amnesty. It does mean, however, that immigrants should not be used as objects of organized anger or singled out for prejudice and harm. If Republicans head down this dreary path, many could no longer follow.

Which is why the departure of Martinez is unfortunate. Most elected Republicans bring serious arguments and good motives to the immigration debate. Fewer leaders, however, are willing to confront the extremists in their midst. And now one more of those principled leaders is gone.
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Re: It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2009, 07:45:15 AM »
Bush did fine with hispanics.It was that dunce McCain that lost footing with them.Hispanics are hard working people,they respond to the government letting them keep their money.

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Re: It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2009, 07:49:59 AM »
Bush did fine with hispanics.It was that dunce McCain that lost footing with them.Hispanics are hard working people,they respond to the government letting them keep their money.

Benny:  if you were running the GOP - what would you do to attract hispanics? 

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Re: It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2009, 07:51:51 AM »
Benny:  if you were running the GOP - what would you do to attract hispanics? 

appoint an hispanic to the supreme court  ???

just a hunch

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Re: It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2009, 07:52:49 AM »
Benny:  if you were running the GOP - what would you do to attract hispanics? 

Offer free jumper cables at the voting booth.

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Re: It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2009, 08:00:45 AM »
appoint an hispanic to the supreme court  ???

just a hunch

Bush wanted Miguel Estrada and look how that worked out? 

Alberto Gonzeles?

 

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Re: It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2009, 08:02:43 AM »
GOP could try push for an American Union. that would be in line with libertarian ideals. couple it with a flatter tax, less government and you could have a New radical GOP platform. I suggest leaving issues like abortion and gay marriages completely out of it.
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Re: It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2009, 08:03:11 AM »
bush doesnt have brown skin.


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Re: It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2009, 08:03:39 AM »
GOP could try push for an American Union. that would be in line with libertarian ideals.

how so?

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Re: It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2009, 08:04:10 AM »
As more and more Latinos realize liberals want to take more of their money in taxation supporting big government, there will be more Latino conservatives.

Republicans need to concentrate on conservative economics more than conservative social issues.  If they do that, they win in 2010 and 2012.  They will also win over middle and upper income Latinos.  Few working people want the gov to take even more of their money.  My hope is the current government does not create more people who don't pay taxes, as that contributes to the liberal base.

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Re: It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2009, 08:06:18 AM »
Benny:  if you were running the GOP - what would you do to attract hispanics? 
You can start by denouncing angry, racist rhetoric when it is used by your party's leaders ( Buchanan, Tancredo, etc., and the head of the party, Rush Limbaugh.)

Next, you can actually add meat to the bone by proposing policies that benefit poor and working class people, instead of the current platform of nothing but "tax cuts and more tax cuts" for the wealthy.

Martinez makes clear that a number of his Senate colleagues were "conservative, but not inflammatory." Other elected Republicans, however, made "pretty divisive use of immigration policy. It is more a matter of tone, of how you talk about immigrants. It has made Hispanics feel unwelcome, unwanted."
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Re: It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2009, 08:10:46 AM »
"Next, you can actually add meat to the bone by proposing policies that benefit poor and working class people, instead of the current platform of nothing but "tax cuts and more tax cuts" for the wealthy."
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Like what? 

More welfare programs?  We already have a party who corned that segment of the market. 


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Re: It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2009, 08:19:02 AM »
I agree with Benny in regards to some republicans have a perception problem.  Whether its true of them or not, some need to project a more caring attitude toward people and issues.

Benny, it's not just taxation on the wealthy, when you look around, the total tax burden (other than federal income tax) has gone up on the bulk of the population.  The poor have no problem supporting more government programs and services because they pay little or no taxes.  Everyone above poverty has to contribute so they have a vested interest in the value of the tax dollars spent.

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Re: It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2009, 08:19:57 AM »
"Next, you can actually add meat to the bone by proposing policies that benefit poor and working class people, instead of the current platform of nothing but "tax cuts and more tax cuts" for the wealthy."
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Like what? 

More welfare programs?  We already have a party who corned that segment of the market. 


Working class people are, by definition, not on welfare and have no desire to receive such assistance. It's the mentality that poor people are just "freeloaders looking for a handout" that hurts the GOP with minorities as much as anything else. Hard working Latino immigrants who are largely poor certainly don't appreciate that kind of image.


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Re: It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2009, 08:35:12 AM »
Working class people are, by definition, not on welfare and have no desire to receive such assistance. It's the mentality that poor people are just "freeloaders looking for a handout" that hurts the GOP with minorities as much as anything else. Hard working Latino immigrants who are largely poor certainly don't appreciate that kind of image.




So then tell me what programs you are referring to that would help then that dont include tax cuts or more welfare programs?

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Re: It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2009, 09:52:50 AM »
As more and more Latinos realize liberals want to take more of their money in taxation supporting big government, there will be more Latino conservatives.

Republicans need to concentrate on conservative economics more than conservative social issues.  If they do that, they win in 2010 and 2012.  They will also win over middle and upper income Latinos.  Few working people want the gov to take even more of their money.  My hope is the current government does not create more people who don't pay taxes, as that contributes to the liberal base.
I agree. Consider this... how could McCain lose the latino vote when he was the artist of the immigration reform bill giving amnesty to those already here. So, I ask, how is this possible? Or is it the duping by the democrats that insist the republicans want to "burn baptist churches", want to "kick everyone out", and "jail the illegals". All quotes from web ads during the last three elections.

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Re: It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2009, 09:55:43 AM »
I agree. Consider this... how could McCain lose the latino vote when he was the artist of the immigration reform bill giving amnesty to those already here. So, I ask, how is this possible?

obama is young and brown

mccain is old and white

you do the math.

Look what happened to obamas "white male" voter support when he nominated joe.


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Re: It's GOP Suicide: Losing the Latino Vote
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2009, 01:41:47 PM »
obama is young and brown

mccain is old and white

you do the math.

Look what happened to obamas "white male" voter support when he nominated joe.


This is my point. Race came in to play. Without a doubt. In the inner city, you did not vote for "whitey".